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Post by vernuf on Mar 19, 2017 19:35:26 GMT
If you're offended by family films acknowledging the existence of LGBT people, then you're frankly a horrible person and deserve to be offended. More idiotic statements, yet this is a very popular argument. These films are thinking much, much more than just "acknowledging the existence of LGBT people." And yet, you can't provide any examples. Talking about idiotic statements. Of course, if you weren't such an idiotic bigot, you'd realize that this thread is specifically about just that, acknowledging the existence of gay people. Nothing more than that. No messages about gay rights, for or against. Just that they exist. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Mar 19, 2017 19:44:34 GMT
More idiotic statements, yet this is a very popular argument. These films are thinking much, much more than just "acknowledging the existence of LGBT people." And yet, you can't provide any examples. Talking about idiotic statements. How does this sell more movie tickets? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 23:22:59 GMT
Because you are an absolute simpleton. That's why. To you, it MUST be a gay influence or some such experience to turn a person gay. That's liberal 'logic' for ya. And, for the last, I never said it was a choice. Do liberals even know how to read any more? You are talking nonsense james. Also, re-read your reply to me and it will become apparent (perhaps - I realize you are not that bright ) even to you that you lack the ability to comprehend what I was saying. How can you say to me "TO you it MUST be a gay influence" when I am arguing that gay people are born that way. Clearly you are a cretin sir. Back up your argument with links to empirical, proven facts or shut up and f... off back to the trailer park or swamp you crawled out of. Ok, prove to me that people are born gay. Provide the gay gene. |
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Post by THawk on Mar 19, 2017 23:40:27 GMT
More idiotic statements, yet this is a very popular argument. These films are thinking much, much more than just "acknowledging the existence of LGBT people." And yet, you can't provide any examples. Talking about idiotic statements. Of course, if you weren't such an idiotic bigot, you'd realize that this thread is specifically about just that, acknowledging the existence of gay people. Nothing more than that. No messages about gay rights, for or against. Just that they exist. Lol, are you for real? So the fact that in virtually every single TV show today, and with a growing presence in movies as well, LGBT people are present all over the place despite being an extremely small 3-4 percent of the total population, and 99.99% of that presentation is neutral or positive....isn't a message of any sort? Just a public service announcement that they exist? Complete coincidence? If that's the case, where are the hundreds of thousands of other minority groups that aren't given even an ounce of the presentation LGBT people are? |
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 20, 2017 5:23:23 GMT
🎄Jan El Señor🎄 bottom line... people just don't like me and turn to the insults (i am not accusing you of this but others around here) because i am speaking out against the whole gay agenda which is frowned on (largely by liberals) in the current world even though what i say is true in the eyes of Jesus Christ and He's God so His views on what's right and wrong are absolute. it can't really get any simpler than that.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Mar 20, 2017 6:01:44 GMT
A sanitized society is a boring one.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 20, 2017 6:05:08 GMT
If this is the case jamesavalon, why do the adopted children of gay males not turn out to be gay (unless, of course, the adopted child was born gay - then he or she would be gay or lesbian). Also, why do the children (adopted or otherwise) of lesbian couples not turn out to be gay ((unless, of course, the adopted child was born gay - then he or she would be gay or lesbian). Surely if it was a choice the children of gay or lebian couples whould CHOOSE to be gay, if choice is involved. Also, what on earth makes you think I identify as a liberal? or, for that matter, a consevervative? Because you are an absolute simpleton. That's why. To you, it MUST be a gay influence or some such experience to turn a person gay. That's liberal 'logic' for ya. And, for the last, I never said it was a choice. Do liberals even know how to read any more? James, I asked you first. Once you have provided proof - which you can't - of your bullshit theory I will provide proof. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 6:08:09 GMT
Because you are an absolute simpleton. That's why. To you, it MUST be a gay influence or some such experience to turn a person gay. That's liberal 'logic' for ya. And, for the last, I never said it was a choice. Do liberals even know how to read any more? James, I asked you first. Once you have provided proof, I will provide proof. I don't have to prove people are born gay since I didn't make the claim. LOL |
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Mar 20, 2017 6:15:34 GMT
Family films should not have priests, they are pedophiles.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 20, 2017 6:50:13 GMT
🎄Jan El Señor🎄 bottom line... * people just don't like me and turn to the insults (i am not accusing you of this but others around here) because i am speaking out against the whole gay agenda which is frowned on (largely by liberals) in the current world EVEN THOUGH WHAT I SAY IS TRUE IN THE EYES OF JESUS CHRIST AND HE'S GOD. HIS VIEWS ON WHAT IS IS RIGHT AND WRONG ARE ABSOLUTE. it can't really get any simpler than that. That is, without a shadow of a doubt, the biggest crock of shit I have read on these boards m-slovak79. You have never met God, and neither has anybody else. You have not touched God, you have not felt God, you have not seen God, you have not heard God, you have not smelt God. And neither has anybody else. There is not a shred of proof for the existence of God. Man invented God to help human beings cope with their fear of death. What you call "the whole gay agenda" is simply a righteous and fair demand for equal rights. Gay people don't need or want your love, they just want equal rights. Apart from being deluded, you are sickeningly self righteous and self involved. However, you are welcome to believe whatever nonsense you want to if it helps you make it through the night and keeps you from binging on hardcore pornography. Just leave the hatred and condemnation of what you don't understand out of it. * I do not hate you, but I do pity you. However, just because I feel sorry for you does not mean I am going to shut up when you say evil and heinous things about people burning in hell jand being punished by God for no other reason than because they were born gay and fell in love with and made made love to folk of the same gender. Now let's pretend for a moment that God is real and that he does punish people for doing bad things on earth when they die and go to heaven. If this is the case, your "God" will be so busy punishing murderers, rapists, terrorists, and not only the tens of thousands of predatory Catholic priests who have abused, raped and molested children for centuries, but also their superiors in the church who have turned a blind eyes to their evil , hideously harmful and horribly hurtful deeds and covered up for them and enabled them, that he/she wouldn't have the time or the inclination to punish gay men and lesbian women for having consensual sex with people of the same gender. Think about it dude!
So let me ask you a question m-slovak79. Do you think your "God" is going to punish all the tens of thousands of predatory Cathoic priests for their heinous, unthinkably cruel crimes against children (and, by extension, humanity in general) and ensure they burn in the fires of hell for eternity?
Don't you think that the "sin" of having consensual sex with folk of the same gender is a very small and slight sin (which hurts no one) when compared to the evil and heinous crime of raping, abusing and molesting innocent children; ensuring that their lives (the children) are forever scarred and damaged?
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 20, 2017 8:05:58 GMT
jeffersoncodyso someone has to meet God face to face in order to know his views on things? it's pretty clear cut the whole 'sex between two of the same sex' is against God (i.e. The Holy Trinity(Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)). i am not going to bother commenting anymore as if you don't get it by now you probably never will. we know this from tradition and the bible etc. while we obviously don't know EVERYTHING about God we do know enough from the bible etc. this is our core difference as i see things differently. but when it comes to God it boils down to this for most people it seems... i always heard faith is a gift from God but i always wondered why some people (like myself) have it while others seem to struggle with it etc. also, stuff like... Miracle of the Sun at Fatima (Oct 13th 2017 will be it's 100th anniversary)/Eucharistic miracles/Our Lady of Guadalupe image from the year 1531/people like St Pio (1887-1968) etc etc (stuff that can't be easily explained away  ). there is at least some plausible stuff out there if people can see but in the mind of some atheist's they deny deny deny no matter what which basically comes back to that quote. with that said... i realize that belief in God is largely a faith thing though but i don't think it entirely is. Given enough of them have the mindset of "do what we want or else" i think it's a bit more than just that. also, true Marriage will always be between a man+woman. everything else goes against what's right basically. so naturally us Christians won't accept stuff we think is immoral but they call it "equal rights" etc. i understand it pretty well and you can't seem to grasp it's not hatred. it's simply correcting the error of ones ways which is a good thing, not a bad thing. what evil/heinous things did i say? also, i can't judge gay people as i would have assumed you would know this by now as it's ultimately between them and God. i am just simply saying certain sins are serious and someone can risk hell for them even though in many cases it can be difficult to determine whether someone truly crossed the line and sinned mortally. but we do know that sex between two of the same sex is under the serious sin category so we know the potential of mortal sin is there since it's of grave matter. also, even assuming someone is born gay is true... just being gay (like attraction to the same sex as oneself) is not a sin until one acts on it basically. God does love ALL people but He cannot act like sin is no big deal because it's harms us etc. You underestimate the power of God given this info. also, you act like it's a common thing that priest's etc abuse children which is obviously not true. but those cases of abuse within the Catholic church just gives those who don't like the Catholic church in the first place more reason to dis it. Those who sexually abuse children and the like will be punished by God but they can still repent and turn back towards God as like i have mentioned before God will forgive ANYTHING (they say mercy is His greatest attribute) if your truly sorry for it and try to change your ways etc. but don't mistake that for license to commit any sins you want thinking ill just be sorry for them later etc because sin is not free as even once God forgives your sins you still have to pay God back for all of the wrong one has done in their lives basically which is either paid for in this life or in the next through purgatory (assuming one does not end up in hell, purgatory is likely where one will be not long after death after God judges a person assuming they don't end up in hell) before eventually reaching heaven. also, the way i understand it is those who end up in hell pretty much choose it for themselves given their choices/actions in this life here on earth. so it's not really that God sends them to hell it's that they choose it by rejecting God, who is love, and the alternative to that... hell(which is full of hate/evil etc). well between the two choices there... obviously the sexual abuse of Children is more heinous than two of the same sex having sex. but it does not take some evil murderer and the like to reach hell as if you believe the message from The Mother of God at Fatima she's said "The sins which cause most souls to go to hell are the sins of the flesh." (i.e. sexual sins) which makes sense since the vast majority of us are not going to commit rape or murder or the like but it's easy to see how a lot of people fall to sexual sins since it's pretty much our strongest(or at least one of the strongest) desire and one can be easily overcome by it and, in short, we need help from God, which comes through regular prayer etc, which obtains grace from God to resist temptation to sin etc. but that 'not hurting anyone' comment, only appears that way.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 20, 2017 9:41:23 GMT
Having sex is not just about procreation. Are heterosexuals wanting to procreate a child every time they f<>k? Science has nothing to do with this aspect. Quit with the political connotations about it being a "liberal" fantasy. There are gay republicans too and homosexuality has been around for eons and eons, even before the left and right wing declinations reared their confused heads.
You are attempting to be logical, but much of your confounded logic appears steeped in your own bias, prejudice and ignorance. Both males and females are necessary if the human race is to continue, that doesn't mean that the human heterosexuals who are breeding, don't have children that come out gay. Not all males who have homosexual tendencies would identify as "gay" anyway, and they shouldn't have too. They may be just as capable of performing sexually with a female and what they enjoy also. And take a good look around you, many males DO LOOK GAY. What do you expect them to do, have sex with a female when they are incapable and it isn't what they want or need? This is not all about you and your own self-centered and self-entitled controlling needs. Get educated, instead of condescendingly attempting to tell others that they don't understand something.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 20, 2017 9:51:54 GMT
...our environments shape who we eventually become. It shapes what we like and what we don't like. It has a much greater impact than our most basic biological drives and homosexuality is proof... Nature or Nurture, it's heterosexuals who are doing the breeding, so it's their fault. Get over it! |
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Post by cineastewest on Mar 20, 2017 10:04:16 GMT
To me, being born gay is like being born white or black or yellow or red. Or blond, or brunette, or red, or gray. People can't help how they born. But the word is out. Let people adjust. it takes time. Is it good to keep fighting and waving the banner? I think sometimes you need to give things a rest. The word is out.
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Post by deembastille on Mar 20, 2017 10:20:03 GMT
Family films should not have priests, they are pedophiles. Is it me or are most clergymen that of the protestant persuasion??? I see more protestant [or other religions where the priest could marry] being portrayed than of anything else. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 12:50:50 GMT
Having sex is not just about procreation. Are heterosexuals wanting to procreate a child every time they f<>k? Science has nothing to do with this aspect. Quit with the political connotations about it being a "liberal" fantasy. There are gay republicans too and homosexuality has been around for eons and eons, even before the left and right wing declinations reared their confused heads.
You are attempting to be logical, but much of your confounded logic appears steeped in your own bias, prejudice and ignorance. Both males and females are necessary if the human race is to continue, that doesn't mean that the human heterosexuals who are breeding, don't have children that come out gay. Not all males who have homosexual tendencies would identify as "gay" anyway, and they shouldn't have too. They may be just as capable of performing sexually with a female and what they enjoy also. And take a good look around you, many males DO LOOK GAY. What do you expect them to do, have sex with a female when they are incapable and it isn't what they want or need? This is not all about you and your own self-centered and self-entitled controlling needs. Get educated, instead of condescendingly attempting to tell others that they don't understand something.
Attempting to be logical? I am being entirely logical. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 12:57:38 GMT
even though what i say is true in the eyes of Jesus Christ.... When it's convenient for you.... In any case, there is no "gay agenda" going on with the new Beauty and the Beast movie. What is going on is a well planned publicity stunt designed specifically to get uptight Christians outraged and others creaming their pants over how "progressive" it is. In reality, all that happened is they took an idiot character, made fun of him in the movie, and called him "gay" in the marketing. Congrats to everyone who took the bait.... |
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Post by drystyx on Mar 20, 2017 16:10:40 GMT
We never hear about the "silent majority" of kids who wouldn't even realize what "gay" is, because both left and right extremists are so self righteous and intolerant of the existence of the "quiet kid", but it really doesn't matter to them.
When I was knee high to a grasshopper, Paul Lynde was a regular on TV. I had no idea he was gay. He just sounded funny. It's too embarrassing for people, especially kids, to admit this, but that's the reality, and just cause internet has idolized the loudest kids, I'm sure there are still quiet ones who just move along with the tide and don't care.
It doesn't matter if they're gay. No one cares but the extremists. |
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Post by CybeRider on Mar 20, 2017 19:44:23 GMT
I can easily foresee a world in which theatres will put a label at the entrance everytime a movie includes a gay character, or a crippled one in the years just after, because the world is again starting the two steps back that usualy happen when it advances one step forward. But that will not be a new thing. Not so many years ago there were some stars being glued at some shop doors in Europe, and some people had to wear that same star in their arms, and these people were killed for their thoughts, and for some time part of the world was quite happy that things were going that way. Did we learn something?... Reading some of the upper opinions I'd say we haven't, but maybe because I may be crippled as being crazy, I still have some hope.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 20:58:40 GMT
I can easily foresee a world in which theatres will put a label at the entrance everytime a movie includes a gay character, or a crippled one in the years just after, because the world is again starting the two steps back that usualy happen when it advances one step forward. But that will not be a new thing. Not so many years ago there were some stars being glued at some shop doors in Europe, and some people had to wear that same star in their arms, and these people were killed for their thoughts, and for some time part of the world was quite happy that things were going that way. Did we learn something?... Reading some of the upper opinions I'd say we haven't, but maybe because I may be crippled as being crazy, I still have some hope. No, we didn't learn anything. If anything, liberals have become even worse than the far right religious zealots of the past. They will destroy the lives of anyone who doesn't think properly. |
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). there is at least some plausible stuff out there if people can see but in the mind of some atheist's they deny deny deny no matter what which basically comes back to that quote. with that said... i realize that belief in God is largely a faith thing though but i don't think it entirely is.
