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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 2:43:13 GMT
piracy is a grey area for many though because it's basically a victimless crime. It's not a grey area and it's not a victimless crime. When you pirate somebody's music/movie/book/work, you're literally stealing it. You're not paying the money and therefore the artists don't get any money/royalties from it. It any case, I'm done going around in circles with you on this. The fact that people were so fooled by a blatant publicity stunt is just downright embarrassing....
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 21, 2017 2:52:06 GMT
Jan El Señor what about Netflix though since it's a flat monthly fee and you can watch a lot of stuff. i can't see how people make much $$$ from that stuff either but yet it's legal. piracy is just a better alternative to that basically. but look at it this way... looking strictly at myself, i know for a fact that had i not been able to pirate the movies i see, a good portion of them i never would have seen. hence, no $$$ loses there. sure, in some cases i might have spent some $$$ though so ill give you this much. p.s. i heard the artist barely get any $$$ from music CD purchases (i heard they make the bulk of their money from touring) which likely just goes to those greedy execs who already making a ton of $$$ anyways. i don't think anyone is going to feel sorry for someone making millions already. piracy just does not feel like legit stealing at the end of the day since it's all digital stuff and not something physical. well any gay agenda stuff in a kids movie just sounds like a immoral thing in general as they are kids and don't need to their moral compass corrupted etc. so it's not surprising people are going to rise up against it. but i imagine from their perspective they probably don't care because it draws attention to it which they only see $$$ i imagine.
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Post by CybeRider on Mar 21, 2017 2:59:16 GMT
I really don't see how it matters if people are gay, if they are born gay or if they want to have a 5 minutes gay affair. People are not gay, they are people, and that is just it. Once we start pointing differences either in skin color, religion, or whatever, we are just creating walls to separate us in nonsense categories that only exist in lame theoretical projects of those that need this classifications to majestify some worthless qualities nobody would notice should these labels not exist. People are born free to choose whom how and what they want to join them for their joint ventures. Freedom is gradually taken away in the years after, by overruled societies that had to impose chains over brains to protect private property. The fundamental sin is the creation of these boundaries. Stop labeling and enjoy other people's happiness even if you cant't be anything but miserable hating losers. Let children know they were born free, and explain them (should you have the courage) and step by step why they can't grow free in nature like any of the other living creatures. Explain them why humans had to create concepts like religion and God, so there would always be an entity to rule over them even when the king was not around.
Be brave.
The question is not correct. It should be:
Do you think kids and family movies should represent reality or be a total ilusive fackeness?
And, by the way, the only reason why some behaviours and actions tend to show more and more on screen it is not because of some hidden propaganda, it is simply because they are selling and cotrovertial to have the people aligning to watch and debate them. Demand is the only guidance, and I am sorry if this fact destroys the magic for you.
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Post by CookiesNCream on Mar 21, 2017 4:48:34 GMT
Wow, this thread is still going?
Has anyone even seen the movie by now and how did that 'gay moment' occur?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 5:06:27 GMT
Wow, this thread is still going? Has anyone even seen the movie by now and how did that 'gay moment' occur? Two guys dance together for 20 seconds. West Side Story is gayer than this movie....
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Post by CookiesNCream on Mar 21, 2017 5:42:34 GMT
Wow, this thread is still going? Has anyone even seen the movie by now and how did that 'gay moment' occur? Two guys dance together for 20 seconds. West Side Story is gayer than this movie.... That's what all of the fuss was about? Even the ending of ParaNorman was much more blunt compared to that, as far as movies aim at kids and families go. This just made the 16+ rating from Russia even more ridiculous. So the announcement was just a publicity stunt by Disney at best. Imo, they shouldn't have said much about it.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 21, 2017 6:02:58 GMT
piracy is a grey area for many though because it's basically a victimless crime. Hundreds of thousands of jobs in a number industries worldwide have been lost due to internet piracy/file sharing (aka copyright theft). It is anything but a victimless crime. I could elaborate far more - giving you facts and figures, but industry policy (for many reasons) is not to talk about the elephant in the room so I won't. However, I will tell you that to call internet piracy "basically a victimless crime" is not only disingenuous, it is an utter lie, and you are fooling no one but yourself. Subject closed.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 21, 2017 6:23:09 GMT
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 21, 2017 6:42:30 GMT
jeffersoncody so someone has to meet God face to face in order to know his views on things? it's pretty clear cut the whole 'sex between two of the same sex' is against God (i.e. The Holy Trinity(Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)). i am not going to bother commenting anymore as if you don't get it by now you probably never will. we know this from tradition and the bible etc. while we obviously don't know EVERYTHING about God we do know enough from the bible etc. this is our core difference as i see things differently. but when it comes to God it boils down to this for most people it seems... i always heard faith is a gift from God but i always wondered why some people (like myself) have it while others seem to struggle with it etc. also, stuff like... Miracle of the Sun at Fatima (Oct 13th 2017 will be it's 100th anniversary)/Eucharistic miracles/Our Lady of Guadalupe image from the year 1531/people like St Pio (1887-1968) etc etc (stuff that can't be easily explained away ). there is at least some plausible stuff out there if people can see but in the mind of some atheist's they deny deny deny no matter what which basically comes back to that quote. with that said... i realize that belief in God is largely a faith thing though but i don't think it entirely is. Given enough of them have the mindset of "do what we want or else" i think it's a bit more than just that. also, true Marriage will always be between a man+woman. everything else goes against what's right basically. so naturally us Christians won't accept stuff we think is immoral but they call it "equal rights" etc. i understand it pretty well and you can't seem to grasp it's not hatred. it's simply correcting the error of ones ways which is a good thing, not a bad thing. what evil/heinous things did i say? also, i can't judge gay people as i would have assumed you would know this by now as it's ultimately between them and God. i am just simply saying certain sins are serious and someone can risk hell for them even though in many cases it can be difficult to determine whether someone truly crossed the line and sinned mortally. but we do know that sex between two of the same sex is under the serious sin category so we know the potential of mortal sin is there since it's of grave matter. also, even assuming someone is born gay is true... just being gay (like attraction to the same sex as oneself) is not a sin until one acts on it basically. God does love ALL people but He cannot act like sin is no big deal because it's harms us etc. You underestimate the power of God given this info. also, you act like it's a common thing that priest's etc abuse children which is obviously not true. but those cases of abuse within the Catholic church just gives those who don't like the Catholic church in the first place more reason to dis it. Those who sexually abuse children and the like will be punished by God but they can still repent and turn back towards God as like i have mentioned before God will forgive ANYTHING (they say mercy is His greatest attribute) if your truly sorry for it and try to change your ways etc. but don't mistake that for license to commit any sins you want thinking ill just be sorry for them later etc because sin is not free as even once God forgives your sins you still have to pay God back for all of the wrong one has done in their lives basically which is either paid for in this life or in the next through purgatory (assuming one does not end up in hell, purgatory is likely where one will be not long after death after God judges a person assuming they don't end up in hell) before eventually reaching heaven. also, the way i understand it is those who end up in hell pretty much choose it for themselves given their choices/actions in this life here on earth. so it's not really that God sends them to hell it's that they choose it by rejecting God, who is love, and the alternative to that... hell(which is full of hate/evil etc). well between the two choices there... obviously the sexual abuse of Children is more heinous than two of the same sex having sex. but it does not take some evil murderer and the like to reach hell as if you believe the message from The Mother of God at Fatima she's said "The sins which cause most souls to go to hell are the sins of the flesh." (i.e. sexual sins) which makes sense since the vast majority of us are not going to commit rape or murder or the like but it's easy to see how a lot of people fall to sexual sins since it's pretty much our strongest(or at least one of the strongest) desire and one can be easily overcome by it and, in short, we need help from God, which comes through regular prayer etc, which obtains grace from God to resist temptation to sin etc. but that 'not hurting anyone' comment, only appears that way. I don't want to be mean, impolite or unkind to you m-slovak79, but sometimes one has to call a spade a spade. I do not have a degree or a diploma in psychology, but I do have a PHD from the University of Life, and having read through your lengthy, nonsensical wall-of-words post I have to tell you it is my carefully considered opinion that you, m-slovak79, are either mentally ill or profoundly stupid. Either way, like Jan el Senor, I am done with you.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 21, 2017 7:06:43 GMT
jeffersoncodybut do you believe everything you read online? in terms of movies i imagine those smaller budget ones that rely more on DVD/Bluray sales and the like might be more hurt from piracy vs some big name movie where i doubt there will be any real issues with people and jobs. i imagine most of what i would see had piracy not been a option for me would be largely decent name movies anyways. hence, as far as me personally goes, it's pretty much victimless. if your serious, that sounds a bit arrogant to make a claim like that. but personally i think your just defaulting to insults because i have a differing opinion on things than yourself. also, 'profoundly stupid' or 'mentally ill' is quite unlikely because my views are inline with many people out there and you can't honestly think they are 'profoundly stupid' (as in well below average at best) or 'mentally ill', right?. because most people are probably around average intelligence, give or take a bit, and playing the odds i am one of those people. it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out this much, degree or no degree
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 12:51:18 GMT
So the announcement was just a publicity stunt by Disney at best. Yes. Basically, anyone getting outraged or excited about it is an idiot....
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Post by CookiesNCream on Mar 22, 2017 4:39:57 GMT
So the announcement was just a publicity stunt by Disney at best. Yes. Basically, anyone getting outraged or excited about it is an idiot.... Agree. Especially if it's over that little scene, or whatever was building towards it.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 22, 2017 19:15:37 GMT
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 23, 2017 3:35:08 GMT
jeffersoncodythe key words here are 'accused', not proven. plus, when it comes to general abuse i imagine some people are quick to claim abuse for next to nothing, especially on that 40% claim. my best guess is this on that 40% figure thing... they probably have more strict discipline and the like and people just don't like it and then claim they where abused. i am not saying all cases are like that as there probably are some legitimate cases and all though but you get the idea. it's quite likely some of those claims are BS as people probably just want to get some free $$$ etc. i am confident of this. but with that said, i am not denying that abuse happens in the church as it obviously does but it's not a common thing. Clearly not true given what you have shown me here as even if that 7% figure is legit that's no where near common as it's a tiny fraction of the church as a whole. i am not saying it's next to non-existent, and it is a concern(since obviously it needs to be stopped), but to act like it's common is a stretch.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 23, 2017 6:21:05 GMT
jeffersoncody the key words here are 'accused', not proven. plus, when it comes to general abuse i imagine some people are quick to claim abuse for next to nothing, especially on that 40% claim. my best guess is this on that 40% figure thing... they probably have more strict discipline and the like and people just don't like it and then claim they where abused. i am not saying all cases are like that as there probably are some legitimate cases and all though but you get the idea. it's quite likely some of those claims are BS as people probably just want to get some free $$$ etc. i am confident of this. but with that said, i am not denying that abuse happens in the church as it obviously does but it's not a common thing. Clearly not true given what you have shown me here as even if that 7% figure is legit that's no where near common as it's a tiny fraction of the church as a whole. i am not saying it's next to non-existent, and it is a concern(since obviously it needs to be stopped), but to act like it's common is a stretch. Good God m-slovak79, don't you know when to shut up. Have you no shame?
Going back to things you said in your previous reply to me, I can forgive and understand and feel compassion for a pedophile who has twisted, sick, shameful desires but never acts on them because he knows he will hurt and damage human beings if he does. But a pedophile who acts out their depraved desires and hurts an innocent child or a woman is a predator and a psychopath. There can be no forgiveness for a man who molests or rapes a child. Forget "repentence", if, as you said, your God can forgive them then I want no part of your God. There is no forgivenes for a pedophile who acts on his desires. Pedophile priests should be hunted down and terminated with extreme prejudice. Yet the Catholic Church - all the way to the top - covered up their heinous deeds for centuries. You do also know, I hope, that that the Vatican got in to bed with both Mussolini's fascists and the Nazi's. So you should be very, very careful of believing what these c.nts tell you is the truth.
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Post by The Social Introvert on Mar 23, 2017 13:05:48 GMT
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 23, 2017 17:46:08 GMT
Yes, of course they should! That’s just one more thing I love about Steven Universe. While even Adventure Time, despite the obvious innuendo, was afraid of making Peebles’ and Marceline’s past relationship officially romantic, SU is not afraid at all of openly depicting homosexual relationships in a completely natural and positive way. In fact, of the five main characters, three of them are homosexual. I love Rebecca Sugar’s work
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Post by deembastille on Mar 23, 2017 22:58:05 GMT
jeffersoncody the key words here are 'accused', not proven. plus, when it comes to general abuse i imagine some people are quick to claim abuse for next to nothing, especially on that 40% claim. my best guess is this on that 40% figure thing... they probably have more strict discipline and the like and people just don't like it and then claim they where abused. i am not saying all cases are like that as there probably are some legitimate cases and all though but you get the idea. it's quite likely some of those claims are BS as people probably just want to get some free $$$ etc. i am confident of this. but with that said, i am not denying that abuse happens in the church as it obviously does but it's not a common thing. Clearly not true given what you have shown me here as even if that 7% figure is legit that's no where near common as it's a tiny fraction of the church as a whole. i am not saying it's next to non-existent, and it is a concern(since obviously it needs to be stopped), but to act like it's common is a stretch. Good God m-slovak79, don't you know when to shut up. Have you no shame?
Going back to things you said in your previous reply to me, I can forgive and understand and feel compassion for a pedophile who has twisted, sick, shameful desires but never acts on them because he knows he will hurt and damage human beings if he does. But a pedophile who acts out their depraved desires and hurts an innocent child or a woman is a predator and a psychopath. There can be no forgiveness for a man who molests or rapes a child. Forget "repentence", if, as you said, your God can forgive them then I want no part of your God. There is no forgivenes for a pedophile who acts on his desires. Pedophile priests should be hunted down and terminated with extreme prejudice. Yet the Catholic Church - all the way to the top - covered up their heinous deeds for centuries. You do also know, I hope, that that the Vatican got in to bed with both Mussolini's fascists and the Nazi's. So you should be very, very careful of believing what these c.nts tell you is the truth. Jeff... just block her! I have.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 23:29:58 GMT
Jeff... just block her! I have. Not a her. It's a dude using a female avatar, which I'll never understand....
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Post by deembastille on Mar 23, 2017 23:52:02 GMT
Jeff... just block her! I have. Not a her. It's a dude using a female avatar, which I'll never understand.... so is blocking no longer an option now? srsly, people like 'her' 'he' 'it' have this coming.
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