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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 7, 2017 6:05:52 GMT
That makes no sense. Its very natural for gays. A gay guy pretending to be straight is not natural. It does make sense because no one is born gay.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 7, 2017 7:06:31 GMT
FridayOnElmStreet that's our core area we differ then is i believe in God and have views accordingly and since you don't believe in God it's not surprising you fall into the error of the secular world. but it just goes to show those who don't believe in God are that much more likely to go against God's way of living because it inconveniences them and that don't work out too well in the long term as the further one gets away from God's standards of living the worse things tend to get (check the quote below with Sodom and Gomorrah which shows the more extreme examples of what happens when one gets too far away from God). i would rather trust God then go with whatever is popular at the current time as the Truth does not change as the Truth is not a democracy in whatever is popular at any given time in history. it's not natural, the order of nature is to reproduce is male+female and that the vast majority are attracted to the opposite sex has to count something p.s. i heard something only around 2% of the population is homosexual and the like. but with all of the crap on TV, especially in these last 15 years or so, it makes it look like it's everywhere etc. even if the percentage is higher... i can't imagine it being more than 10% tops. That's not true. just being rich is not a sin. here is quote from a article which should sum things up about it... source = goo.gl/wA33Ny
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 7, 2017 7:13:57 GMT
that's our core area we differ then is i believe in God and have views accordingly and since you don't believe in God it's not surprising you fall into error of the secular world... ... That's not true. just being rich is not a sin.
I -- this is too easy. I can't even.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 7, 2017 7:17:27 GMT
coldenhaulfieldYour point? because i don't see what point your trying to make here.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 7, 2017 7:18:11 GMT
coldenhaulfield Your point? because i don't see what point your trying to make here. I know. I know you don't.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 7, 2017 7:20:29 GMT
coldenhaulfieldWell if you ain't even going to make a point, why even post anything? just say what you wanted to say. it's better to be clear on what you mean.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 7, 2017 7:23:14 GMT
coldenhaulfield Well if you ain't even going to make a point, why even post anything? just say what you wanted to say. it's better to be clear on what you mean. Go read any one of the Gospels (for the first time, from the sound of it) and then reread my comments and you'll figure it out. If you know literally the first thing about any sect or version of Christianity or the literary character Jesus Christ, you would understand my point. But zealots like you never do. That's, you know, why you're on an internet message board writing ~3k words at a clip about a religion you can't possibly know anything whatsoever about.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 7, 2017 7:36:35 GMT
coldenhaulfieldin the end, does it really matter? ; it's very clear cut that homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of Jesus Christ who is part of The Holy Trinity which is God. people like you just don't want to hear the truth so they default to insults and the like. the Catholic church is the one Jesus Christ started and the one He guides. the pope is infallible when it comes to faith/morals. official church teaching on stuff like homosexuality won't be wrong to say the least and it's pretty clear cut it's immoral. also, not everyone can be right in their interpretations of things in the bible which is why you need one authority. That's obviously a false claim there since i do know some of my Catholic faith and what i said about homosexuality being immoral is quite concrete when it comes to Jesus Christ as while He loves everyone He is not going to act like sin is no big deal. also, it would be difficult for the average person to learn every little detail about it as people likely spend a lifetime and still can't get it all as i am sure it can go quite deep the more you learn. i try to learn what i can here and there but it's not like ill ever be some high up theologian. but in a basic sense the important thing is... try to avoid sin, have a daily prayer life, and try to be nice/charitable to others when you can etc.
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Post by louise on Mar 7, 2017 7:38:27 GMT
making one of the most obnoxious characters gay isn't i would have thought the best way to introduce kiddies to the concept of gayness. Of course, we all know that homos are all exceptional and wonderful people. but if the argument (and it appears to be) that having a gay character teaches kiddies about the wonder of diversity, making one of the most horrible characters gay doesn't seem to be the way to go. They might have done better to have made cogsworth and Lumiere a gay couple, or have mrs Potts coming out of the closet and into the wardrobe or something.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 7, 2017 7:48:38 GMT
coldenhaulfield in the end, does it really matter? ; it's very clear cut that homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of Jesus Christ who is part of The Holy Trinity which is God. people like you just don't want to hear the truth so they default to insults and the like. the Catholic church is the one Jesus Christ started and the one He guides. the pope is infallible when it comes to faith/morals. official church teaching on stuff like homosexuality won't be wrong to say the least and it's pretty clear cut it's immoral. also, not everyone can be right in their interpretations of things in the bible which is why you need one authority. That's obviously a false claim there since i do know some of my Catholic faith and what i said about homosexuality being immoral is quite concrete when it comes to Jesus Christ as while He loves everyone He is not going to act like sin is no big deal. also, it would be difficult for the average person to learn every little detail about it as people likely spend a lifetime and still can't get it all as i am sure it can go quite deep the more you learn. i try to learn what i can here and there but it's not like ill ever be some high up theologian. but in a basic sense the important thing is... try to avoid sin, have a daily prayer life, and try to be nice/charitable to others when you can etc.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 7, 2017 8:23:41 GMT
Go read any one of the Gospels (for the first time, from the sound of it) and then reread my comments and you'll figure it out. If you know literally the first thing about any sect or version of Christianity or the literary character Jesus Christ, you would understand my point. But zealots like you never do. That's, you know, why you're on an internet message board writing ~3k words at a clip about a religion you can't possibly know anything whatsoever about. Well done on calling out the racist, homophobic right wing "Christian" m-slovak79 coldenhaulfield. You are absolutely right in saying he hasn't read the gospels. In fact, he once told me - on the IMDB's Film General Forum - that he hadn't read the bible, but didn't need to because his Catholic priest informed him of all he needed to know. This buffoon is one of the most hypocritical "Christians" I have ever come across. I thoroughly enjoyed watching you tear him a new butthole in this exchange. Sadly, he is so thick-skinned, self absorbed and dumb anything intelligent anybody says to him sails right over his head. He has been posting the same homophobic right wing "christian" and Catholic propaganda for years. I think he has his boring, nonsensical, grammatically retarded wall-of-words rants saved on his computer.They never change and I think he just copies and pastes them verbatim ad infinitum. One day I'll tell you how he found religion, it's quite interesting. The first time we had an exchange on Film General he told me he had proof of "God" because "God" had actually spoken to him. I told him that this was a world first and he should tell the New York Times. Irony and hmor are lost him, though. Way I see it, much of what he posts is hate speech. That this ghastly fascist thinks he holds the moral high ground and is spewing God's Word for the good of mankind in his rancid posts is both creepy and disturbing.
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Post by JHA Durant on Mar 7, 2017 8:43:22 GMT
Ha ha lol, that line's hilarious. I don't watch Kids & Family films much because they're full of "everyday madness". I'd rather watch Apocalypse Now madness because it takes me to places. "Everyday madness" is annoying.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Mar 7, 2017 9:11:40 GMT
m-slovak79I never said I didnt believe in God. You are lying right there. I just dont think God is against gay people. Like I said. Gay people exist. Who cares? Get over it.
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Post by THawk on Mar 7, 2017 13:32:33 GMT
coldenhaulfield in the end, does it really matter? ; it's very clear cut that homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of Jesus Christ who is part of The Holy Trinity which is God. people like you just don't want to hear the truth so they default to insults and the like. the Catholic church is the one Jesus Christ started and the one He guides. the pope is infallible when it comes to faith/morals. official church teaching on stuff like homosexuality won't be wrong to say the least and it's pretty clear cut it's immoral. also, not everyone can be right in their interpretations of things in the bible which is why you need one authority. That's obviously a false claim there since i do know some of my Catholic faith and what i said about homosexuality being immoral is quite concrete when it comes to Jesus Christ as while He loves everyone He is not going to act like sin is no big deal. also, it would be difficult for the average person to learn every little detail about it as people likely spend a lifetime and still can't get it all as i am sure it can go quite deep the more you learn. i try to learn what i can here and there but it's not like ill ever be some high up theologian. but in a basic sense the important thing is... try to avoid sin, have a daily prayer life, and try to be nice/charitable to others when you can etc. People like m-slovak are an embarrassment to all Christians. There are plenty of reasons to have an issue with Hollywood's indoctrination, but there is nothing in the Bible that concretely says that gay people are sinful. Taking statements from Paul based on specific circumstances and situations and trying to apply them to 21st century realities is extremely narrow minded. And your argument does nothing but embolden liberal Hollywood. Because your argument is extremely weak and makes it easy for them to dismiss anyone that has issues with the gay agenda as right-wing deluded conservative Christians. Thanks for that.
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Post by conspirologist on Mar 7, 2017 14:51:42 GMT
Of course, we all know that homos are all exceptional and wonderful people. but if the argument (and it appears to be) that having a gay character teaches kiddies about the wonder of diversity, making one of the most horrible characters gay doesn't seem to be the way to go. They might have done better to have made cogsworth and Lumiere a gay couple, or have mrs Potts coming out of the closet and into the wardrobe or something. If they are so intelligent, why don't they come up with an original tale, instead ruining classics?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 15:17:20 GMT
It does make sense because no one is born gay. Even if that is true, this still does not make sense, and does not logically flow from that statement:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 15:18:58 GMT
If they are so intelligent, why don't they come up with an original tale, instead ruining classics? This is a 2017 film. The 1991 classic still exists for you to watch whenever you want. Nothing is ruined.
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Post by sostie on Mar 7, 2017 16:22:05 GMT
So when did all "the gays" meet to come up with this agenda ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 16:25:50 GMT
It's us conservatives that are against the whole gay agenda Slow down. Plenty of conservatives, myself included, couldn't give two shits about a gay character in a fantasy film....
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Mar 8, 2017 1:05:42 GMT
If expressions of affection between any characters- gay or straight- don't go beyond mere kissing, why not?
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