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Post by kijii on Oct 22, 2017 16:38:37 GMT
I head ya there, Spider.
I, too, have read it from cover to cover.
I have this theory that most people who have claimed to have read it all haven't.
There is actually a whole chapter in the book just about whales...it sort of interrupts the flow of the novel, even though it is interesting in its own right.
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Post by bravomailer on Oct 22, 2017 16:39:32 GMT
The subject of films set in N England makes me think of the scenes from Heaven's Gate that take place at Harvard. Camino opted to film them at Cambridge! Gothic architecture not colonial. Looks more like the U of Chicago.  |
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 22, 2017 17:24:37 GMT
I've been following this thread, spiderwort , and thanks so much for it. I adore New England; as you know, I grew up on Long Island (which is not New England proper but whose north fork feels like New England, complete with colonial villages and white-steepled churches) and now live in Boston, and I truly couldn't imagine living anywhere other than New England, as much as I love other regions and countries. There's something bewitching and magical about the area, making it apt for Stephen King, Shirley Jackson, and Nathaniel Hawthorne--yet it too feels like home, a real place to hang your hat and find a true sense of belonging. (I even wrote a little poem about that irrepressible New England autumn the other day.) Anyway, my contribution: if I'm not mistaken (and apropos of the season at hand), isn't The Haunting set in Mass? I seem to remember that Nell drives from Boston to Hill House, though it was actually filmed in England. |
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Post by mattgarth on Oct 22, 2017 17:51:40 GMT
Another New Hampshire vote -- opening and climactic school auditorium scenes in SCENT OF A WOMAN
And another for Connecticut -- BOOMERANG! (1947)
Reed Hadley's opening narration: "There's an old New England saying ... after New York, it's all Connecticut ..."
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Post by spiderwort on Oct 22, 2017 18:34:09 GMT
I've been following this thread, spiderwort , and thanks so much for it. I adore New England; as you know, I grew up on Long Island (which is not New England proper but whose north fork feels like New England, complete with colonial villages and white-steepled churches) and now live in Boston, and I truly couldn't imagine living anywhere other than New England, as much as I love other regions and countries. There's something bewitching and magical about the area, making it apt for Stephen King, Shirley Jackson, and Nathaniel Hawthorne--yet it too feels like home, a real place to hang your hat and find a true sense of belonging. (I even wrote a little poem about that irrepressible New England autumn the other day.) Anyway, my contribution: if I'm not mistaken (and apropos of the season at hand), isn't The Haunting set in Mass? I seem to remember that Nell drives from Boston to Hill House, though it was actually filmed in England. You're welcome, Salmank. Glad you're enjoying the thread. It's been a treat for me, I must say, to have all the interesting responses. And I love your poem (thanks so much). It evokes autumnal New England so beautifully. And what a lucky man you are to live in Boston! I have a close friend in Cambridge, so I get out that way from time to time. I love the city, but I'm a country animal at heart - a real villager, despite the fact that I've spent most of my adult life in Los Angeles. Concord would have been great for me decades ago, but the last time I was there it had grown beyond my appreciation. If I move back to New England, it will probably be to Amherst. Anyway, yes, The Haunting, indeed. Possibly my favorite film of its kind, so beautifully directed by Robert Wise, with a superb performance by the great Julie Harris. I'm pretty sure it takes place in New England for the reason you mention, though exactly where I do not know. And I didn't know the film was actually filmed in England. It looks like New England to me. |
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Oct 22, 2017 23:11:34 GMT
This sort of ties in to what Salzmank was saying about Long Island... it's not technically New England, but parts of it sure look and feel like New England. That being said, I'd recommend a film from 1969, Last Summer, starring Barbara Hershey, Richard Thomas, Bruce Davison et al. It was filmed on Fire Island, on the east coast of Long Island, New York. Very picturesque - and atmospheric - film, with a startling conclusion. Very memorable film, though it's probably overlooked today.
As I watched it I couldn't help but be reminded of coastal parts of Maine that I visited back in the day.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 23, 2017 1:55:53 GMT
This sort of ties in to what Salzmank was saying about Long Island... it's not technically New England, but parts of it sure look and feel like New England. That being said, I'd recommend a film from 1969, Last Summer, starring Barbara Hershey, Richard Thomas, Bruce Davison et al. It was filmed on Fire Island, on the east coast of Long Island, New York. Very picturesque - and atmospheric - film, with a startling conclusion. Very memorable film, though it's probably overlooked today.
As I watched it I couldn't help but be reminded of coastal parts of Maine that I visited back in the day. Thanks, Zolotoy. Some "typical Long Island" pictures of places I know well but that will probably more bespeak New England than New York:       Sorry about all the pictures; it's only that I always had a real New England feeling about all these places, most of them on the rocky North Fork, facing Connecticut (the South Fork is more sandy and beach-like). I do love the area. Apologies about taking us off-topic, though, spiderwort. EDIT: I should point about that more Long Islanders, at least in Suffolk, sound the way Stuart Vorpahl speaks in this video (clip of him begins at 25:03), rather than the "Lawn Guyland" stuff that was imported from Greater New York City English. (It still has the "aw" sound-- cawfee instead of côfee, completely lacking the caught- cot merger--but it's more similar to Rhode Island English than New York City English, I think.) |
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Oct 23, 2017 2:00:17 GMT
Nalkarj: great pics, thanks for posting. Yes, those definitely are reminiscent of coastal Maine as I remember it from when I was in the service up there. I used to drive all over the place when I had some free time... went from Portland all the way up to Acadia National Park, and many, many points in between, along the coast. Stopped at a few lobstah shacks, too. lol
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 23, 2017 2:11:29 GMT
Maine's one of my favorite states, ZolotoyRetriever , and I've got great memories of driving along the coast at night, as the fog came rolling in... Lovely area, and I too have been to Portland, Acadia (was caught in a heavy downpour while camping there), and lobstah shacks, albeit far too infrequently. (The New Hampshire fishermen, though, tend to joke, somewhat causticly, about how if someone catches a lobster in Portsmouth, it's a regular plain ol' lobster, but if one catches a lobster in Kittery, it's a magically new species called "Maine lobster"!  ) |
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Oct 23, 2017 2:51:13 GMT
Maine's one of my favorite states, ZolotoyRetriever , and I've got great memories of driving along the coast at night, as the fog came rolling in... Lovely area, and I too have been to Portland, Acadia (was caught in a heavy downpour while camping there), and lobstah shacks, albeit far too infrequently. (The New Hampshire fishermen, though, tend to joke, somewhat causticly, about how if someone catches a lobster in Portsmouth, it's a regular plain ol' lobster, but if one catches a lobster in Kittery, it's a magically new species called "Maine lobster"! ) |
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Post by Staccato on Oct 23, 2017 22:43:16 GMT
Connecticut:
Rachel, Rachel
The Swimmer
Boomerang!
The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit
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Post by spiderwort on Oct 23, 2017 23:08:08 GMT
Maine's one of my favorite states, ZolotoyRetriever , and I've got great memories of driving along the coast at night, as the fog came rolling in... Lovely area, and I too have been to Portland, Acadia (was caught in a heavy downpour while camping there), and lobstah shacks, albeit far too infrequently. (The New Hampshire fishermen, though, tend to joke, somewhat causticly, about how if someone catches a lobster in Portsmouth, it's a regular plain ol' lobster, but if one catches a lobster in Kittery, it's a magically new species called "Maine lobster"! ) I agree with both you and Nalkarj about Maine, zolotoy. It's my favorite New England state, too, and I would love to move there. But the winters there in particular would be really hard for me. The first time I ever went to Maine it was in late April. I flew to Boston and drove up to Camden where Peyton Place was filmed, and it was all but a ghost-town and very cold. But in the spring and summer (those few months), oh what a beautiful state it is! Luckily, I've been able to visit it during those times. And Nalkarj , thanks for the great Long Island pictures. I've been out to Sag Harbor to visit John Steinbeck's home, but it was about 40 years ago, and I don't remember it very well - except that at that time most of the central part of it was an agricultural area growing lots of potatoes. I do remember a suggestion of what your pictures show, but I need to explore the area more, clearly. It looks very much like parts of New England. Boothbay Harbor, Maine, perhaps? Now that's a village I love! |
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Post by petrolino on Oct 23, 2017 23:10:50 GMT
petrolino Thanks for your most interesting comments. They evoke memorable images. And I can't believe you have ancestors in Salem, and in publishing no less, though I probably shouldn't be surprised, given America's history. Have you ever been to Salem? It would be interesting to get your feedback about the place so filled with history linked to England. I have ancestral history in New England, too - folks from England, of course. And I've spent a lot of time there, even lived there for nearly a year (in western Mass). It's a special world, and you're right about the writers who are so identified with it. In Amherst, Mass I lived less than two miles from Emily Dickinson's home, passing by it every day on the way to the town common. And I'll never forget going to Concord, Mass. and seeing the homes and graves of Louisa May Alcott, Nathanial Hawthorne, Ralph Waldo Emerson, and Henry David Thoreau. New England has a rich literary heritage without question, one which has carried over into the contemporary world. (Oh, now I miss it even more! I'm thinking of retiring there when the time comes - so many reasons to do it and only one reason not to: the long winters. But with climate change that soon may not be a problem. They've recently been having very high temps in Massachusetts at a time when they should be having quite chilly ones.) Hi spiderwort. I've never been to America before, would love to go some day. My work colleague went to Boston, he said it was a great city. The winters may be harsh but how could anyone resist the temptation of a picture-postcard Christmas in Vermont. I bet it's a cosy atmosphere to be there during wintertime, with all the little restaurants. |
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Post by petrolino on Oct 23, 2017 23:15:32 GMT
Lol Funny comment about the rivalry and the "Maine" lobsters. So typical, too! I tried the fresh-steamed lobstah experience a few times, at some of the aforementioned shacks along the coast, but that was probably enough for me. It's a bit of a messy undertaking, really. lol I agree with both you and Nalkarj about Maine, zoloy. It's my favorite New England state, too, and I would love to move there. But the winters there in particular would be really hard for me. The first time I ever went to Maine it was in late April. I flew to Boston and drove up to Camden where Peyton Place was filmed, and it was all but a ghost-town and very cold. But in the spring and summer (those few months), oh what a beautiful state it is! Luckily I've been able to visit it during those times. Anna Kendrick's from Portland, Maine. I love Anna Kendrick! 'Take A Tour Round Anna Kendrick's Portland' - Maine Today |
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 23, 2017 23:40:19 GMT
spiderwortAmusingly enough, Long Island still grows a lot of potatoes, especially in the middle of the island, though there's so much development around the Riverhead area now that one could drive through and not see all the potato and corn fields. It has the New England feel (rocky North Fork), the Jersey Shore feel (sandy, touristy South Fork), and the midwestern feel (fields between the two forks for as far as the eye can see) all covered in a relatively small area! Thanks for the kind words and all the wonderful thoughts about Maine. petrolinoBelieve it or not, I'll be in a log cabin, complete with wood-burning stove, in Vermont for Thanksgiving! Hoping for snow but not getting my hopes up too high. (No horse-drawn sleigh to bring me there, sadly...) 
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Post by spiderwort on Oct 24, 2017 0:17:14 GMT
spiderwort Amusingly enough, Long Island still grows a lot of potatoes, especially in the middle of the island, though there's so much development around the Riverhead area now that one could drive through and not see all the potato and corn fields. It has the New England feel (rocky North Fork), the Jersey Shore feel (sandy, touristy South Fork), and the midwestern feel (fields between the two forks for as far as the eye can see) all covered in a relatively small area! Thanks for the kind words and all the wonderful thoughts about Maine. petrolino Believe it or not, I'll be in a log cabin, complete with wood-burning stove, in Vermont for Thanksgiving! Hoping for snow but not getting my hopes up too high. (No horse-drawn sleigh to bring me there, sadly...) Thanks, Salzmank. And about Long Island: in 1960 the farm scenes in SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS were shot on Staten Island, which, I thought, looked a lot like Kansas (I think of Staten Island as part of Long Island). And as for Thanksgiving, I'm hoping that I'll be either on the Cape or in Western Mass for that holiday, a landscape so appropriate to it, for sure. If I don't make it, I'll be thinking of you there in Vermont. Hope you get your snow. |
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Post by spiderwort on Oct 24, 2017 0:34:51 GMT
Connecticut: Rachel, Rachel The Swimmer Boomerang! The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit Forgot about RACHEL, RACHEL. Saw that again recently and really enjoyed it's summertime Connecticut landscapes. I'd like to add the Delmar Daves' melodrama, PARRISH, shot in the Connecticut River Valley. It's not even close to being the film that RACHEL, RACHEL is, but I enjoy it for its beautiful tobacco field landscapes (though tobacco to me is only beautiful as a landscape. ) Oh, and these, too: IT HAPPENED TO JANE, starring Doris Day and Jack Lemmon, and THE FAMILY STONE, starring Diane Keaton, Claire Danes, and Sarah Jessica Parker, among others. Neither is a great film, but I enjoyed them both. |
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Post by mattgarth on Oct 24, 2017 3:16:16 GMT
IT HAPPENED TO JANE, though set in Maine, was actually filmed in the small Connecticut town of Chester. Actor Max Showalter (who also performed earlier under the name 'Casey Adams') played Ernie Kovacs' attorney. He became so enamoured of the quaint community that he purchased a home there when he retired.
A gentle and gracious man, he donated his time and money to local charities and events, and created a performance scholarship for the regional high school that is still ongoing long after his passing.
I had the pleasure of knowing him, and we used to lunch together once a month. He used his contacts in the industry to have fundraisers for the new firehouse, etc. -- staging celebrity gatherings at the nearby regional theater that he supported, attracting performer pals Eileen Heckart, Debbie Reynolds and Dana Andrews for an afternoon film screening and audience discussion session.
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Post by telegonus on Oct 24, 2017 8:56:44 GMT
IT HAPPENED TO JANE, though set in Maine, was actually filmed in the small Connecticut town of Chester. Actor Max Showalter (who also performed earlier under the name 'Casey Adams') played Ernie Kovacs' attorney. He became so enamoured of the quaint community that he purchased a home there when he retired. A gentle and gracious man, he donated his time and money to local charities and events, and created a performance scholarship for the regional high school that is still ongoing long after his passing. I had the pleasure of knowing him, and we used to lunch together once a month. He used his contacts in the industry to have fundraisers for the new firehouse, etc. -- staging celebrity gatherings at the nearby regional theater that he supported, attracting performer pals Eileen Heckart, Debbie Reynolds and Dana Andrews for an afternoon film screening and audience discussion session. Thanks for mentioning It Happened To Jane, MattGarth. The title passed through my mind but I passed due to the film's relative obscurity (despite its starry cast), plus the fact the Maine and New England generally, especially the eastern half, is changing beyond recognition and is rapidly becoming one of the priciest regions of the country. Massachusetts is getting richer by the day. It's not super-rich like New York but very upper middle class professional. Still, much of Maine is like it used to be, only poorer. Oh well, sorry to be the bearer of some sad news,--unfortunately, as a Bostonian, I have to live with it every day. On the happier topic of movies set in New England, have silent films been mentioned? One that comes to mind is The Scarlet Letter. I'm blocked on the other titles now but I know they're there. Not sure if Captains Courageous has been mentioned. Also, both versions of Down To The Sea In Ships. There's H.M. Pulham, Esq. from 1941. |
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Post by mattgarth on Oct 24, 2017 9:52:36 GMT
Tele -- you mention films made in New England during the Silent era. D.W. Griffith's WAY DOWN EAST was filmed at White River Junction in Vermont, and poor Lillian Gish floated down the Connecticut River in Farmington, CT.
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