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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 0:44:50 GMT
who are you - the 'posting' police? and no but you seem like you go to great lengths when someone disagrees with you to prove them wrong somehow, or deride their opinion as well. not at all. there is no right and wrong in my eyes. we all have an opinion and others people's opinions are quite welcome from those that differ from mine. i think it broadens one mind to be open minded one of the reasons i joined the original IMDB and this forum is because i learn so much from others. we may have different opinions and be polar opposites - but at the same time - it is a message forum - i regard this an an 'outlet' from the real stressors of the world - no harm no foul - never any intended.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 27, 2017 0:49:58 GMT
Curious do you feel Kill List is horror? and Sightseers? both sort of feel like quasi horror. i've never seen them/heard of them. would you recommend them? If you like Ben Wheatley, both are more thrillers then actual horror, but both also tend to mix genres in the second half. Also both English films.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 0:52:41 GMT
@screamingtreefrogs Thanks! A few things bothered me about Downey's performance. First of all, he didn't particularly convince me that he was English. I'm not so much a stickler that I demand that an English actor play Holmes, but--if not--he must do a very good job of convincing me. Connected with that, perhaps, is that Holmes is above all a gentleman. A Bohemian, moody one, to be sure, but he's not a moping sociopath or a provocateur. Rather, he believes in honesty, decency, chivalry, and fair-play--long held principles of order and justice. Basil Rathbone's performance leaned towards the gentlemanly side; Jeremy Brett's performance had the remarkable ability to manage both sides; and most modern portrayals reverse the Rathbone and lean toward the moodiness and addictiveness. (I should note that the cocaine addiction plays remarkably little role in the stories--hardly any outside of The Sign of the Four.) Third, and most troubling of all, Holmes is not a superhero or an action hero. I know that what seem trite, but it's essential to the character; make him into James Bond, and you're dealing with an utterly different character (and I love Bond, so that's no criticism, just a recognition of differences). Now, that's not to say that there can be no action in the film, but the Ritchie film seems to see Holmes as a wisecracking 18th century version of a Marvel hero--which is simply a bastardization of the character. I really like the movie; I think it's fun and clever, and it gets a positive rating from me; my only quibble is the Downey performance. Hope that helps to explain it.  awesome. couldn't agree more about Holmes being a 'superhero' but it's a modern movie. and i always think Watson was there to save him - so essentially Watson was Robin to Holme's Batman. are you an Edgar Allen Poe fan too perhaps? i picked up this giant hardback book of Sherlock Holmes mysteries as well as Edgar Allen Poe mysteries....... i have a short attention span. so arthur conan doyle quick hitters and edgar allen poe quick hitters are perfect - especially for this time of year at halloween. renting out the back of an old school log cabin farm with exposed tree logs as walls at the moment and have candles lit - being it's halloween season - reading Sherlock Holmes and some Poe before I go to bed is awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 0:55:56 GMT
i've never seen them/heard of them. would you recommend them? If you like Ben Wheatley, both are more thrillers then actual horror, but both also tend to mix genres in the second half. Also both English films. thank you. i'll take that into consideration. i've had many debates on this forum on what people actually consider horror. myself: jaws silence of the lambs se7en those are obvious to me. not so much but i see horror elements: identity (john cusack/ray liotta) insomnia (al pacino, hilary swank, robin williams) i really think it's up to the viewer (what they view as horror in their own mind and if others agree/disagree - and the debate is always fun)
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 27, 2017 0:55:59 GMT
Curious do you feel Kill List is horror? and Sightseers? both sort of feel like quasi horror. i've never seen them/heard of them. Lol no surprise there. 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 1:03:07 GMT
i've never seen them/heard of them. Lol no surprise there.   still bitter i hate the original Dawn of the Day, eh - were these movies around that time Pops? 
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 27, 2017 1:10:10 GMT
Lol no surprise there.   still bitter i hate the original Dawn of the Day, eh - were these movies around that time Pops?  Lol I couldn’t care less that you hate Dawn of the Dead. The only person who cares about people disliking movies he likes here is you. That’s why you don’t want people who don’t like movies you like to post in your threads. ”pops” I’m 27 you moron. Kill List and Sightseers were made this decade. Kill List is quite well known among hardcore horror fans, but of course you wouldn’t know it because you’re just a mainstream horror fan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 1:16:14 GMT
 still bitter i hate the original Dawn of the Day, eh - were these movies around that time Pops?  Lol I couldn’t care less that you hate Dawn of the Dead. The only person who cares about people disliking movies he likes here is you. That’s why you don’t want people who don’t like movies you like to post in your threads. ”pops” I’m 27 you moron. Kill List and Sightseers were made this decade. Kill List is quite well known among hardcore horror fans, but of course you wouldn’t know it because you’re just a mainstream horror fan. are you OK buddy? i thought we were making progress here? no need to throw a hissy fit. need a tissue?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 27, 2017 1:17:49 GMT
Lol I couldn’t care less that you hate Dawn of the Dead. The only person who cares about people disliking movies he likes here is you. That’s why you don’t want people who don’t like movies you like to post in your threads. ”pops” I’m 27 you moron. Kill List and Sightseers were made this decade. Kill List is quite well known among hardcore horror fans, but of course you wouldn’t know it because you’re just a mainstream horror fan. are you OK buddy? i thought we were making progress here? no need to throw a hissy fit. need a tissue? OMG I think you just pwned me dude bro! 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 1:19:56 GMT
are you OK buddy? i thought we were making progress here? no need to throw a hissy fit. need a tissue? OMG I think you just pwned me dude bro!  i'm concerned. do you need somebody to talk to? i thought we were making progress. it's ok - we all fall off the wagon - tomorrow is a new day 
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 27, 2017 1:21:20 GMT
OMG I think you just pwned me dude bro!  i'm concerned. do you need somebody to talk to? i thought we were making progress. it's ok - we all fall off the wagon - tomorrow is a new day  Your words cut like a knife man!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 1:22:33 GMT
i'm concerned. do you need somebody to talk to? i thought we were making progress. it's ok - we all fall off the wagon - tomorrow is a new day  Your words cut like a knife man! i'm here for you... always remember that........
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 27, 2017 1:25:39 GMT
Your words cut like a knife man! i'm here for you... always remember that........ Awww that’s so sweet of you. 
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Post by Salzmank on Oct 27, 2017 1:30:14 GMT
@screamingtreefrogs Yes, indeed, I'm a huge Poe fan; "The Fall of the House of Usher" is always one of my go-to horror classics every Hallowe'en, along with The Haunting of Hill House and "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow." If I may recommend a few other great writers... Lovecraft, certainly, and some other classic writers: M.R. James, Algernon Blackwood, Arthur Machen, E.F. Benson, and Robert Aickman. You may also like mystery writer John Dickson Carr, who imbued his novels with a heavy horror vibe. ("Let there be a spice of terror," he wrote, "of dark skies and evil things.") The Burning Court, one of his best works, brilliantly unites horror and mystery and has one of the great "shock!" conclusions I know.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 1:30:54 GMT
i'm here for you... always remember that........ Awww that’s so sweet of you.  i know you're having a bad night. but... i want you to know as a fellow horror fan (despite you ridiculing me and calling me 'mainstream' whatever that means) i'll be here for you. even though we disagree on 'The Dawn of the Dead' - we both appreciate two zombie movies so that's something. i'm one that likes to take the positives out of everything. i hope you have a good night and remember - tomorrow is a new day which means the opportunity for a 'brand new you!' 
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 27, 2017 1:38:11 GMT
Awww that’s so sweet of you.  i know you're having a bad night. but... i want you to know as a fellow horror fan (despite you ridiculing me and calling me 'mainstream' whatever that means) i'll be here for you. even though we disagree on 'The Dawn of the Dead' - we both appreciate two zombie movies so that's something. i'm one that likes to take the positives out of everything. i hope you have a good night and remember - tomorrow is a new day which means the opportunity for a 'brand new you!'  OMGeez you’re such a sweetheart! Hopefully tomorrow when I wake up I’m more like you! 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 1:41:06 GMT
@screamingtreefrogs Yes, indeed, I'm a huge Poe fan; "The Fall of the House of Usher" is always one of my go-to horror classics every Hallowe'en, along with The Haunting of Hill House and "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow." If I may recommend a few other great writers... Lovecraft, certainly, and some other classic writers: M.R. James, Algernon Blackwood, Arthur Machen, E.F. Benson, and Robert Aickman. You may also like mystery writer John Dickson Carr, who imbued his novels with a heavy horror vibe. ("Let there be a spice of terror," he wrote, "of dark skies and evil things.") The Burning Court, one of his best works, brilliantly unites horror and mystery and has one of the great "shock!" conclusions I know. great stuff. i'll take note and look at your recs. not mentioning some of poe's classics like obvious 'the black cat', etc..... do you remember a tale entitled 'the devil lost his head' or something along those lines (probably have the title wrong it's been a few years)? i have the book here somewhere with the short story. guy is traveling and comes across a bridge. come across an odd looking man sitting on a fence (the devil). a wager ensues about the gentleman performing a task over the bridge - anyway - obvious spoilers - the devil wins and collects his soul as the man is decapitated....very short story of a few pages - haunting - perfect for Halloween. Love 'The Legend of Sleepy Hollow'. have it in writing. need to give it a read again but also enjoy the modern stuff like Sleepy Hollow (huge Christopher Walken fan and Johnny Depp fan)
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Post by hi224 on Oct 27, 2017 1:57:52 GMT
i know you're having a bad night. but... i want you to know as a fellow horror fan (despite you ridiculing me and calling me 'mainstream' whatever that means) i'll be here for you. even though we disagree on 'The Dawn of the Dead' - we both appreciate two zombie movies so that's something. i'm one that likes to take the positives out of everything. i hope you have a good night and remember - tomorrow is a new day which means the opportunity for a 'brand new you!'  OMGeez you’re such a sweetheart! Hopefully tomorrow when I wake up I’m more like you!  lol I can't tewll if we are all trolling one another or what at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 2:06:42 GMT
OMGeez you’re such a sweetheart! Hopefully tomorrow when I wake up I’m more like you!  lol I can't tewll if we are all trolling one another or what at all. he's a good guy. his favorite movie is the original Dawn of the Dead. i hate it. don't 'get it'. to each their own. my favorite movie is the remake of 'The Dawn of the Dead' in 2004. love it. great character development. characters you care about. great acting. tense. jump scares. you're invested in the characters. great soundtrack. sad ending. he's a good guy. we have our bad days. 
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Post by Salzmank on Oct 27, 2017 2:09:38 GMT
great stuff. i'll take note and look at your recs. not mentioning some of poe's classics like obvious 'the black cat', etc..... do you remember a tale entitled 'the devil lost his head' or something along those lines (probably have the title wrong it's been a few years)? i have the book here somewhere with the short story. guy is traveling and comes across a bridge. come across an odd looking man sitting on a fence (the devil). a wager ensues about the gentleman performing a task over the bridge - anyway - obvious spoilers - the devil wins and collects his soul as the man is decapitated....very short story of a few pages - haunting - perfect for Halloween. Love 'The Legend of Sleepy Hollow'. have it in writing. need to give it a read again but also enjoy the modern stuff like Sleepy Hollow (huge Christopher Walken fan and Johnny Depp fan) No, I've never heard of that one, but now I'll have to check it out... Ah, is this it? Thanks for your recommendation too! I too own "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow"--I'm going to have to take it out over the next few days, with Hallowe'en just days away! And I'm also a huge fan of Sleepy Hollow '99--one of my favorite adaptations of the story (along with the Disney one), even if it's not very faithful to the source. Very spooky, very autumnal, and sheer fun.
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