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Post by Aj_June on Oct 27, 2017 22:56:07 GMT
In this thread please post religious pics that you like. 1. Birth of Krishna In the story of Mahabharata, Krishna is born on a stormy night. His tyrant uncle had captured his mother and father and put them in jail and was supposed to Kill Krishna as soon as he was born. But the midwife who was supposed to deliver the child was late and Krishna's father was somehow able to smuggle the child from Krishna's evil uncle (his mother's Brother). The picture below depicts his father taking Krishna through Yamuna River.
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Post by captainbryce on Oct 28, 2017 1:47:59 GMT
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Post by Catman on Oct 28, 2017 1:53:10 GMT
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Post by maya55555 on Oct 28, 2017 4:56:06 GMT
ENJOY:
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 28, 2017 6:01:34 GMT
This is Buddhist deity Kalchakra with his concert Vishvamata and this picture is common in Tibetan Buddhism.Kalachakra’s twenty-four hands and Vishvamata’s eight, surrounding the couple like a golden aura, each originally held an attribute. Among the objects that survive in Kalachakra’s hands are the ‘vajra’ and bell, a partially broken sword, a flaying knife, a double-sided pellet drum, the Buddhist wheel, a ‘vajra’-tipped noose, a conch shell and a gem-encrusted jewel. In Kalachakra’s uppermost raised hand dangles the severed head of the four-faced Hindu god Brahma (‘Brahmakapala’). Although seemingly gruesome, this attribute symbolises Kalachakra’s infinite compassion towards all beings (Beer 1999: 309). Vishvamata holds a flaying knife and skull cup in her main hands hidden behind Kalachakra’s neck. Other implements that remain in her additional hands include a noose, a pellet drum, a lotus and a jewel. The figures’ striking pose, the intimacy they share and the dazzling display of arms create a dynamic tour de force. The Lost OneNote: You could see the Buddhist God Kalchakra trampling over Hindu God Shiva with his Right foot (in the pic) in this picture. Click on this pic to enlarge it. In my visit to Bhutan I saw in many temples such pictures with stories attributed about how different Buddhist deities subjugated Shiva. It's very important to note that I very rarely saw Buddha or Buddhist deities shown as decapitating Hindu God Vishnu. My personal opinion is that it was kashmir Shaivite sect who defeated Buddhists in debate and that's why Buddhism lost ground in India. In retaliation Buddhists who went further eastern places like Bhutan and Tibet developed a kind of scorn and contempt for God Shiva.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Oct 28, 2017 15:37:25 GMT
I don't know how to post a picture from a tablet. Search for "Kramskoi Christ in the Wilderness". It's a painting that I saw in a museum in Moscow that I found beautiful. It shows Jesus sitting alone in the desert with the saddest expression on his face. I am atheist to the bone and I thought it was incredibly moving.
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Post by captainbryce on Oct 28, 2017 16:52:47 GMT
I don't know how to post a picture from a tablet. Search for "Kramskoi Christ in the Wilderness". It's a painting that I have seen in a museum in Moscow that I found beautiful. It shows Jesus sitting alone in the desert with the saddest expression on his face. I am atheist to the bone and I thought it was incredibly moving.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Oct 28, 2017 16:58:42 GMT
I don't know how to post a picture from a tablet. Search for "Kramskoi Christ in the Wilderness". It's a painting that I have seen in a museum in Moscow that I found beautiful. It shows Jesus sitting alone in the desert with the saddest expression on his face. I am atheist to the bone and I thought it was incredibly moving. Thanks. That is the one.
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Post by general313 on Oct 28, 2017 22:07:31 GMT
Last Supper scene from Buñuel's Viridiana.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 28, 2017 22:12:08 GMT
Last Supper scene from Buñuel's Viridiana. Among my all time fav movie. These bastards didn't pay Viridiana well for her kindness. Bunuel in no.1 in my list of all time greatest directors. have you seen Los Olvidados (1950)?
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Post by general313 on Oct 28, 2017 22:23:04 GMT
Last Supper scene from Buñuel's Viridiana. Among my all time fav movie. These bastards didn't pay Viridiana well for her kindness. Bunuel in no.1 in my list of all time greatest directors. have you seen Los Olvidados (1950)? Agreed! I have seen Los Olvidados multiple times. It's an astounding and quite heart wrenching film. I admire Buñuel on multiple levels: his political and religious views, his great instinct for story, and his formidable craftsmanship in moviemaking. Have you seen The Exterminating Angel?
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 28, 2017 22:35:12 GMT
Among my all time fav movie. These bastards didn't pay Viridiana well for her kindness. Bunuel in no.1 in my list of all time greatest directors. have you seen Los Olvidados (1950)? Agreed! I have seen Los Olvidados multiple times. It's an astounding and quite heart wrenching film. I admire Buñuel on multiple levels: his political and religious views, his great instinct for story, and his formidable craftsmanship in moviemaking. Have you seen The Exterminating Angel? Los Olvidados was quite different from his other movies. You rightly used the word 'heart wrenching'. He was more into sarcasm but Los Olvidados seemed to be a neo-realist movie much like some Italian movies of that age. The Exterminating Angel was just as awesome for different reasons. The depiction of wealthy bourgeoisie and satire on their resignation of hope was so involving that even I thought I was part of that dinner team. Bunuel was just the master of dark humour. Very similar to that movie was The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (1972).
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 28, 2017 22:40:59 GMT
Last Supper scene from Buñuel's Viridiana. Almost as good and captivating is this chess match depiction between death and Max von Sydow in The Seventh Seal (1957).
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Post by general313 on Oct 29, 2017 0:05:22 GMT
Agreed! I have seen Los Olvidados multiple times. It's an astounding and quite heart wrenching film. I admire Buñuel on multiple levels: his political and religious views, his great instinct for story, and his formidable craftsmanship in moviemaking. Have you seen The Exterminating Angel? Los Olvidados was quite different from his other movies. You rightly used the word 'heart wrenching'. He was more into sarcasm but Los Olvidados seemed to be a neo-realist movie much like some Italian movies of that age. The Exterminating Angel was just as awesome for different reasons. The depiction of wealthy bourgeoisie and satire on their resignation of hope was so involving that even I thought I was part of that dinner team. Bunuel was just the master of dark humour. Very similar to that movie was The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (1972). The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie is another of my favorite Buñuel movies. The social commentary revolving around the gardener/priest and the banana republic ambassador/heroin smuggler are examples of the brilliance of that screenplay (written by Jean-Claude Carriere).
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Post by koskiewicz on Oct 29, 2017 3:06:39 GMT
...mmmmm...maybe the Hieronymous Bosch rendering of "The Garden of Earthly Delights"
El Greco did some neat things as well...
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Post by clusium on Oct 29, 2017 3:58:33 GMT
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Oct 29, 2017 6:45:27 GMT
Los Olvidados was quite different from his other movies. You rightly used the word 'heart wrenching'. He was more into sarcasm but Los Olvidados seemed to be a neo-realist movie much like some Italian movies of that age. The Exterminating Angel was just as awesome for different reasons. The depiction of wealthy bourgeoisie and satire on their resignation of hope was so involving that even I thought I was part of that dinner team. Bunuel was just the master of dark humour. Very similar to that movie was The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (1972). The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie is another of my favorite Buñuel movies. The social commentary revolving around the gardener/priest and the banana republic ambassador/heroin smuggler are examples of the brilliance of that screenplay (written by Jean-Claude Carriere). How dare you guys have a Bunuel discussion without inviting me! He's a favorite director of mine as well and I've seen most all of his films except a handful that isn't/wasn't easy to find and some others from his "craftsman" days (when he was more a director-for-hire rather than an autuer). I haven't seen any of his that were outright duds, and I think I've rated more of his films 9/10 or higher than any other filmmaker. He's currently #7 on my Favorite Directors list (behind Hitch, Bergman, Kurosawa, Hou, Angelopoulos, and Ozu). Here's my ratings/rankings: 1. Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoise 10/10 2. Belle de Jour 9.5/10 3. The Milky Way 4. Los Olvidados 5. That Obscure Object of Desire 6. The Exterminating Angel 9/10 7. The Phantom of Liberty 8. Tristana 9. L'Age D'or 10. The Criminal Life of Archibaldo de la Cruz 8.5/10 11. Simon of the Desert 12. Un Chien Andalou 13. Nazarin 8/10 14. Viridiana 15. El 16. The Young One 7.5/10 17. Diary of a Chambermaid 7/10 18. El Bruto 6.5/10 19. Ascent to Heaven 6/10 20. The Great Madcap 5/10 I think the only two I ever reviewed in depth was The Milky Way and The Exterminating Angel, though I may have written some shorter reviews of a few others: Exterminating Angel: "The best explanation of this film is that, from the standpoint of pure reason, there is no explanation.'' So said Bunuel about The Exterminating Angel, a film that is often hailed as one of the Spanish master’s greatest. While Bunuel said it of this specific film, much the same could be said of many of his late, surrealist works; and much the same has been said about all of the post-modern cinematic masterpieces that began flourishing in the early ‘60s like Bergman’s Persona, Resnais’ Last Year at Marienbad or Godard’s Contempt.
The Exterminating Angel’s plot is simple and revolves around a group of bourgeois guests at a dinner party whom, afterwards, find themselves unable to leave the room they've gathered in at the end of the day. Bunuel builds his story discreetly; light chatter abounds among the various guests, niceties are repeatedly exchanged, and elegance and manners are the order of the day. But even early on Bunuel sneaks his surrealistic touches in. The servants leave the house “like rats leaving a sinking ship”, a bear-cub is lurking around the kitchen premises, not to mention three lambs (a religious allusion, perhaps?). But these are mere oddities that exist in a realm of normalcy, until the “event” occurs.
The Exterminating Angel is, above all else, some of Bunuel’s best and most mordant satire. Its greatness lies in Bunuel’s refusal to explain, while ,with acute perspicacity, he orchestrates the disintegration of this group. Here, Bunuel as director gets to play the role of a god he didn’t believe in by arbitrarily putting his cast into an incomprehensible, absurd situation that violates the laws of human will. By slicing off a section of society he’s effectively able to document the retrogradation of civilization, slicing through its masks and personas and reverting it back to its hominid roots. By the end of the evening, the niceties and elegancies are gone, replaced by bitterness, hatred, and superstition. The guests, of course, seek to explain the situation, but, much like complaining about the weather, none can do anything about it.
If the film’s situation defies logical explanation it just as equally provokes analytical thought and interpretive theory. One could approach it from a scientific-sociological point of view; the fidelity of universal laws allows us to fulfill the unwritten social contracts that hold people of the same classes together. One could approach it from a philosophical point-of-view; man’s sense of free will is determined by his ability to choose and act, but if you take away the ability to act, the compass of free-will is constricted inside a defined limit. One could read it metafictionally; an artist is someone who is able to freely manipulate his fictional creations outside the laws of reality, and through his own act of will he’s able to take away that of his characters. There’s also an almost Kieslowskian metaphysical angle which “resolves” the problem in which all of the characters, after an indeterminate amount of time being imprisoned, find themselves situated in the exact positions as the first day in which they decided to stay. In repeating the actions of that day, and deciding to leave, they suddenly find themselves able to. Like some kind of sick experiment, the rats find themselves only able to eat the cheese without getting shocked once they’ve re-completed the whole maze.
If the film has any flaws its in the fact that Bunuel was never a master technician. He mostly eschewed visual flair and expressiveness for economy and allowing the content to speak for itself. Bunuel was also less a storyteller than a keen observer of humanity. The cast is a bit too large for us to approach them as anything but social representations. While that allows us to view them at a comedic distance (“comedy is filmed in long shot, tragedy in close-up”), it can also be a bit dull for those who don’t feel in on the joke.
To Bunuel’s credit, he takes a much more playful and humorous tone than does his contemporaries. The film certainly lacks the knife-in-the-eye drama of Persona and the suffocating atmosphere of Marienbad. Bunuel seems to take great delight in toying with the follies of humanity. Bunuel was essentially a comic of visual observance, using his camera to make jokes that could make you laugh as much as think. Surely we’re supposed to chuckle at the fact that a severed hand comes alive and creeps across the floor like some kind of murderous spider. Surely the bear’s freedom is a kind of cosmic joke leveled at a humanity who thinks it has life figured out.
Of course, we also have Bunuel getting in that last pot-shot at established religion ala L’age D’or in which the same dilemma is reenacted inside a church on a much larger scale. The especially stinging parting shot is of a group of lambs filing into the church, surely waiting to be slaughtered, echoing the action from earlier. If the lambs are a sign of Jesus, then Bunuel’s wicked sense of humor reaches new heights here. If the bulk of the film was about the piecemeal breakdown of the hypocrisy of the bourgeois, then what more potent parting comment could Bunuel leave us with than the idea that religious people would slay the very symbol they profess to subscribe to in order to survive? The Milky Way: Throughout his career, Bunuel had three obsessions, two being religion and class. His third obsession was his chosen mode of expression: surrealism. Inevitably, his best films seem to mix the three in provocative and thoroughly original ways. While not typically considered one of his best, The Milky Way is yet another masterpiece that deserves to stand alongside the likes of The Discreet Charms of the Bourgeoisie and Belle de Jour. It’s as direct as the old master ever got when it came to dealing with religion and, specifically, the Roman Catholic Church. Bunuel himself was raised a strict Jesuit but eventually renounced the faith; summing it up with one of his most famous quotes “Thank God I’m an atheist!” But even after leaving the church behind he never lost his fascination with the religion, and the Milky Way seems like the culmination of everything he ever learned about Christianity, Catholicism, and Theology in general. But it’s executed in that coolly humorous and subtly scathing way that only someone with Bunuel’s artistry could manage. Or, as Francois Truffaut said about him: “Bunuel is a cheerful pessimist, not given to despair, but he has a skeptical mind...Like the writers of the eighteenth century, [he] teaches us how to doubt.”
The film is ostensibly about two modern and poor wayfarers travelling to Spain to the tomb of the Apostle James. Pierre (Peter) is the older, bearded, and more pious man while Jean (John) is the younger skeptic. The opening text informs us of the history of the history behind the missing body of the Apostle James and how in most European languages The Milky Way is also known as the “Road to St. James”. Of course, this is immediately interrupted by the line “Do you think these bastards will ever stop?” Superficially referring to cars on the road but surely alluding to the hypocrisies of the church as well. The film plays like a surrealist Pilgrim’s Progress as Pierre and Jean’s odyssey seems to not just slip in and out of disconnected episodes, but in and out of time periods and places. One is tempted to merely sum up the diverse range of their encounters – from Jesus and his disciples, to a young and despondent Lucifer, to the Marquis de Sade, to the Virgin Mary, to various popes including a trial that is executing heretics – but to do so is to diminish the richness of Bunuel’s brilliant allegory.
Of all Bunuel’s films, The Milky Way is perhaps the most seamless when it comes to his ability to slip in and out of multiple realities, perpetually existing in a state of spatio-temporal limbo. That state of reality flux is perhaps the most interesting, because while Bunuel was known as a surrealist he largely achieved his effect by situating the unreal in otherwise completely naturalistic settings. Bunuel didn’t craft his surrealism through cinematic, technical wizardry or creative art direction like Fellini, nor through the psychological distortions and sideshow oddities of Lynch. Rather, he usually maintained a narrative that was tethered to reality and would then insert events, people, or situations that clashed with that reality. And in a film that Bunuel himself proclaimed was the first of a trilogy about “The Search for Truth” it’s appropriate that nature, reality, illusion, fantasy, and religion (which attempts to reconcile the conflicts between them) trip so seamlessly side-by-side.
Bunuel called The Milky Way the first in a loose trilogy about “the search for truth”, along with Discreet Charm and The Phantom of Liberty, but while those films feature a much more typical Bunuelian sense of humor along with distinct and absurd events, The Milky Way is much more challenging overall. Make no mistake; the film is difficult, dense, ambiguous (in many respects), and at times utterly confusing. Much of this is due to Bunuel’s particular focus on the history of Christian heresies and heretics. Most of his references and allusions will be completely impenetrable to everyone except those that have studied the history of these themes along with the great mysteries of Christianity. But the film’s brilliance lies in its intricate structure which can only be examined once one has a sure grasp of precisely what Bunuel is tackling. That structure reveals the method by which Bunuel went about tackling “the search for truth” in this particular film.
Specifically, the film is about how the Biblical text creates mysteries and paradoxes, how conflicts arise from differing interpretations of those mysteries, how individuals and groups seem to arbitrarily come to conclusions about the answers, and how after determining what is scripture they seek to abolish and annihilate any dissenting views by proclaiming them heresy. It’s the relationship between these various stages that Bunuel is presenting in interlocking ways through what otherwise might seem disconnected episodes. An early scene perfectly represents the first few stages of this cycle, as the two pilgrims come upon a small inn where a priest is arguing to an officer that Christ’s body isn’t contained in the bread but through transubstantiation literally becomes the bread. But near the end of the scene he suddenly has a change of mind and decides that the body is merely just contained in the bread. When the officer points out this contradiction, the priest throws coffee in his face, and an absurd siren interrupts the proceedings as men show up to take the Priest away to an asylum. Throughout the film, Bunuel seems especially fascinated by how people can argue for theories that attempt to reconcile absurd spiritual paradoxes as if they’re certain they have the right answer.
While Bunuel was never known as a virtuosic cinematic technician, he did over time manage to create a style that was extremely economic – reminiscent of the great craftsman of classic Hollywood – and unobtrusive in a way that lent clarity and subtlety to his increasingly sophisticated narratives. But The Milky Way is perhaps Bunuel’s most beautiful film; largely thanks to the natural beauty of the French countryside. The film is filled with images of a richly textured but seemingly indifferent nature that brilliantly serves to highlight the absurdity occurring around and in it. Also deserving mention is Bunuel’s increasingly complex and superb use of sound. In The Milky Way it can serve to transition between scenes but equally states of reality. Almost every section has its own motif of sounds based on the location, such as the bizarre howling wolves during a Priscillian gathering (one of Bunuel’s many obscure references). Perhaps Bunuel’s best use of sound comes with the heavenly appearance of The Virgin Mary who returns a rosary to a man who had inexplicably found it in his pocket, but chose to take aim and shoot it while hunting. With her appearance all of nature seems to come out on the soundtrack; a loud, babbling river, owls, birds, and even a harp. It’s a magical moment that lasts only as long as she’s on screen.
The Milky Way is a film that’s so rich in its content that one discussing it is shackled to merely focusing on a few select favorite elements--it’s certainly a film one could write an enormous thesis on. It’s not difficult to see why it typically isn’t mentioned among Bunuel’s best since its subject matter is enough to naturally put average and even above-average viewers off; both atheists who may see it as little more than a religious history lesson, and Christians (or believers in other religions) who are likely to be just as confused and, given Bunuel’s reputation, highly skeptical of how he’s portraying religion. But to Bunuel’s credit it’s probably his least vicious attack – if one can call it an attack at all – against religion. Bunuel seems to constantly straddle the line between promoting and condemning, and it’s that ambiguity that adds up to it being one of his richest films, because it certainly allows for a wide range of interpretations; not just overall but with each individual scene. There certainly doesn't seem to be any blanket condemnation on preconceived, theoretical grounds. His portrayal of Jesus certainly isn’t caustic like it was in the scandalous closing of L’age D’or. Rather, he seems to aim his skepticism at the church and those that try to pin down The Bible into rigid doctrine all the while practicing a healthy dose of hypocrisy that violates the very texts they’re attempting to promote. Perhaps Bunuel’s view can be summed up by a great quote attributed to Gandhi which said: "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
While Simon of the Desert may have been the film that officially started Bunuel’s late period, The Milky Way is the film that cemented it, thus becoming a pivotal and essential film in his oeuvre. Typically overlooked in favor of his later and more accessible efforts, The Milky Way may be Bunuel’s ultimate statement regarding one of his lifelong obsessions and themes; related with that absurd, surreal touch that Bunuel mastered to a greater degree than anyone.
A short one for Los Olvidados: "One less! They will all drop like flies. They should have all been killed before they were born."
A compact, 80-minute piece of cinematic dynamite, Los Olvidados (aka The Young and the Damned) is the film that catapulted Bunuel back into the cinematic spotlight after nearly a decade of silence, and is really THE film that confirmed Bunuel's greatness. By taking a stylistic cue from the neo-realists, Bunuel turned his microscope, errr, camera on the impoverished youth in Mexico. The film follows a group of kids who engage in various forms of violence, theft, and other criminal activities in order both to survive and to display their own masculine fortitude in a world that's forgotten and never even cared about them. The two main characters are Jaibo, the leader and oldest of the group, and Pedro, his young and impressionable follower. As the film progresses Jaibo becomes more and more reprehensible and our hope shifts to the possible redemption to Pedro, but Bunuel is too masterful to simply make a film of heroes and villains.
Bunuel tears through his subjects and subject matter with the viciousness of a rabid wolverine. Like a shot of venom straight through the veins, the eruptions of violence, hatred, and crime in the film is palpable; much more so than just about any analog the Italians could conjure in the movement they started. What separates this film from those that came before is Bunuel's unflinching depiction, complete lack of sentiment, and cynical, critical, and invective eye. Bunuel really spent his career subverting the notion of stereotypes and the ideas that some types where inherently better than others. In this film children, parents, and even blind men can be contradictively sympathetic and then repulsive.
While Bunuel was never much of a virtuosic technician or an especially aesthetic director Los Olvidados is loaded with particularly striking visual compositions and lighting schemes. But beyond any style or aesthetic it's really Bunuel's themes, characterizations, and galvanized economy that comes across like a nuclear impact. It may be possible to criticize Bunuel for his excessive pessimism and yet the film comes across more as an outcry for someone to do something about the poverty and complete lack of caring that leads innocent children down these 'damnable' paths.
One of the greatest films from one of cinema's greatest masters.
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Post by general313 on Oct 29, 2017 18:41:09 GMT
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie is another of my favorite Buñuel movies. The social commentary revolving around the gardener/priest and the banana republic ambassador/heroin smuggler are examples of the brilliance of that screenplay (written by Jean-Claude Carriere). How dare you guys have a Bunuel discussion without inviting me! He's a favorite director of mine as well and I've seen most all of his films except a handful that isn't/wasn't easy to find and some others from his "craftsman" days (when he was more a director-for-hire rather than an autuer). I haven't seen any of his that were outright duds, and I think I've rated more of his films 9/10 or higher than any other filmmaker. He's currently #7 on my Favorite Directors list (behind Hitch, Bergman, Kurosawa, Hou, Angelopoulos, and Ozu). Here's my ratings/rankings: 1. Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoise 10/10 2. Belle de Jour 9.5/10 3. The Milky Way 4. Los Olvidados 5. That Obscure Object of Desire 6. The Exterminating Angel 9/10 7. The Phantom of Liberty 8. Tristana 9. L'Age D'or 10. The Criminal Life of Archibaldo de la Cruz 8.5/10 11. Simon of the Desert 12. Un Chien Andalou 13. Nazarin 8/10 14. Viridiana 15. El 16. The Young One 7.5/10 17. Diary of a Chambermaid 7/10 18. El Bruto 6.5/10 19. Ascent to Heaven 6/10 20. The Great Madcap 5/10 Eva, you're very much invited! And thanks for the excellent reviews. I would only disagree with your assertion that Buñuel was not a master technician. He may have often avoided virtuosic displays of cinematography but I think that was a conscious decision, preferring to create a juxtaposition of ordinariness with the surreal events taking place in his films. I think his spare style worked perfectly for his purposes.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Oct 29, 2017 21:45:39 GMT
How dare you guys have a Bunuel discussion without inviting me! He's a favorite director of mine as well and I've seen most all of his films except a handful that isn't/wasn't easy to find and some others from his "craftsman" days (when he was more a director-for-hire rather than an autuer). I haven't seen any of his that were outright duds, and I think I've rated more of his films 9/10 or higher than any other filmmaker. He's currently #7 on my Favorite Directors list (behind Hitch, Bergman, Kurosawa, Hou, Angelopoulos, and Ozu). Here's my ratings/rankings: 1. Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoise 10/10 2. Belle de Jour 9.5/10 3. The Milky Way 4. Los Olvidados 5. That Obscure Object of Desire 6. The Exterminating Angel 9/10 7. The Phantom of Liberty 8. Tristana 9. L'Age D'or 10. The Criminal Life of Archibaldo de la Cruz 8.5/10 11. Simon of the Desert 12. Un Chien Andalou 13. Nazarin 8/10 14. Viridiana 15. El 16. The Young One 7.5/10 17. Diary of a Chambermaid 7/10 18. El Bruto 6.5/10 19. Ascent to Heaven 6/10 20. The Great Madcap 5/10 Eva, you're very much invited! And thanks for the excellent reviews. I would only disagree with your assertion that Buñuel was not a master technician. He may have often avoided virtuosic displays of cinematography but I think that was a conscious decision, preferring to create a juxtaposition of ordinariness with the surreal events taking place in his films. I think his spare style worked perfectly for his purposes. Thanks for the invite and the kudos! I actually strongly agree with your statement I bolded. David Bordwell once said in his article "Stubborn Stylists" in discussing the "flexible stylists" that: "Buñuel becomes a fascinating case: He adopts the blandest, calmest version of each trend, creating a neutral technique, the better to shock us with what he shows." I especially love how in those late films his really conservative, understated style allows reality to transition so seamlessly into surreality, and to even really blur the line between them. I remember the first time I saw Belle de jour I didn't like it very much because it really wasn't weird enough, it felt too normal compared to, say, Lynch's brand of surrealism. Then I saw it a second time years later, and a third time a bit later, and really started to appreciate how seamlessly Bunuel mixed Deneuve's waking life and fantasy life, especially towards the end when the two come into violent conflict. I also think that he learned from the Classic Hollywood masters how to do a lot with small gestures: that scene in Tristana when she's playing the piano and Bunuel cuts to close-ups of her feet, hands, and then her face with that expression, eg., says so much about her character and development (supposedly it was a moment Hitchcock complimented him on). In Discreet Charm and Phantom of Liberty, the absurdities of each scene are downplayed to such a degree that the "bland style" becomes almost the equivalent of a comedian telling the driest but funniest joke you've ever heard. Still, that kind of subtlety and "ordinariness of style to highlight extraordinary content" isn't mutually exclusive with him not being a master technician; in fact, I think the two kinda go together, like how so many young rebels in the 70s wanted to play music but couldn't, so they developed Punk Rock which required little technical skill but a ton of attitude. Just like technical virtuosity would've been counter-productive to punk's aesthetic, I think it would've also been counter-productive to Bunuel's unique voice and vision. Though I do generally value technical mastery, I do like Bunuel more than most virtuostic directors like Lynch or Fellini, so there you go.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 29, 2017 21:48:47 GMT
Satanic orgy
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