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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Dec 18, 2017 8:05:48 GMT
May have already been said, and I'm pulling the metaview card here, but this all smacks of a growing rift between the sexes. I once heard that failing marriages and low birthrates are telltale sign of a decline of a civilization. The media has been stoking this since Betty Friedan. Patriarchy comes from the Middle East and Asia. The Jews and Muslims were very patriarchal. Aryan Europe not so much. The National Socialists had women pilots and filmmakers. England had female rulers for centuries. One of the most famous books was written by a woman (Frankenstein) and her mother was a women's rights pioneer (unlike Friedan, Steinem etc she did not demonize men or call for society's collapse). Now the third wave feminism is starting to turn on white women because they supported Trump. I think what will happen is the liberal cities will collapse from family disintegration and multiculturalism and poorly trained police and the more traditional unified places (flyover country) will remain intact (but face challenges from the liberal areas). There's a colony of Dutch-Germans in Bolivia that have seen their numbers go from 20 000 to 150 000 in 20 years. They have big families and none of the cultural marxist infiltration so this can change really fast. The media owners are panicky because white folk are starting to catch on-especially younger people. I remember when the media said westerners had to have less children because of overpopulation--but when people said: what about Asia? They are the overpopulated ones--the answer was that they didn't have a western lifestyle. So what happened? The same media then cheerled for Asia to be industrialized --and no more talk about overpopulation and western lifestyles. Instead they said there weren't enough people in the West and they needed to bring in third worlders. The scam is obvious now.
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Dec 18, 2017 14:04:14 GMT
Anyone else disappointed that the names have stopped rolling in? We need as many scumbags to be named and shamed as possible.
I guess that's a good thing that there aren't too many though.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 18, 2017 17:35:31 GMT
So when did Polanski serve jail time for what he did? And where is the apology? I must have missed those. Do you have links? sure. here you go. bfy.tw/FcfbThank you.
...And the jail time part?
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Post by shannondegroot on Dec 19, 2017 17:19:44 GMT
TJ Miller
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Dec 19, 2017 17:35:25 GMT
It has really become distorted now, that some have reviled Matt Damon for pointing out that he has never sexually harrassed anyone, nor have his friends and colleagues. He has been jumped on, told "it's not about you!"
Good on Matt, if he isn't guilty of these things.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 21, 2017 19:28:28 GMT
OLIVIA MUNN'S OPEN LETTER... re: Brett Ratner
www.indiewire.com/2017/12/olivia-munn-essay-sexual-harassment-abuse-brett-ratner-1201910174/
From the article: "According to Munn, she was asked to drop off food to Ratner’s trailer as a favor and when she entered she found the director not wearing any pants and “furiously masturbating.” She says he told at a later date that he ejaculated to her image on magazine covers."
Whoa now... that makes it sound different. A) If she walked in on him then that's not sexual harassment. That's her walking in on a private moment, even if he was masturbating to a magazine cover of her. B) If he made an awful terrible joke/comment about it afterwards then that makes him a dick and a jerk but not a sexual harasser. Maybe that was his immature way of coping with being embarrassed or making light of being walked in on while doing "that". And I'll bet when he said that to her she laughed her ass off because I remember she had quite the crass sense of humor when her career was beginning. But now it's sexual harassment.
I'm not discounting her experience, but see how things are not so clear cut when you dig a bit deeper? Now the mans reputation is ruined which in turn will ruin his career and most likely his life. I'm not defending him, he probably is a jerk as described, but these accusations need to be tempered.
Its getting out of control. What happens when someone innocent is accused? He'll have no recourse.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 23, 2017 1:48:58 GMT
2018 should have a pool for this akin to a dead pool.
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Post by Jokers_Wilde on Dec 23, 2017 15:32:12 GMT
I was watching CBC Newsworld this morning. The Philadephia orchestra has cut ties with Dutoit. Agreed.
Not to ruffle any feathers there, but.....
Isn't there some sort of statute of limitations with regards to cases like these? The alleged Dutoit case took place in 1991. There were other incidents from 1985.
Why, all of a sudden, is it a problem NOW?
Meanwhile, I'm waiting for the police to knock on my front door for something I said 20 years ago. 
Joker's Wilde
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Post by shannondegroot on Dec 24, 2017 4:37:53 GMT
Max Landis
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 24, 2017 7:03:00 GMT
question: So in this current climate of people in the entertainment industry (mostly) coming out against sexual harassment offenders, why hasnt anyone brought up Roman Polanski again, whom has had very public accusations made about him all these years? And Woody Allen? Why do some people get shafted but others no? Polanski has never been brought to justice or made any apology. The justice system failed Polanski and was corrupt. He in a sense was brought to justice by the plea deal that was made. He was sentenced to 90 days detention\psychiatric observation and they let him go after 45 days. That is their problem. The judge involved in his case, then reached over the bench, which is legally unethical, and claimed he was going to send him back to prison and then deport him. As far as I know, that is not how a legally binding plea deal works. He pleaded guilty to having sex with a minor. His own admission. The justice system then didn't serve him accordingly. Polanski would not plead guilty to rape and they knew if it went to trial, there was not enough evidence to convict. He got sick of the bulls<>t and absconded. If Polanski didn't leave the US, the unethical manner in which his case was handled would have been made more public and wouldn't have made Rittenband the judge look good. They don't want him back, contrary to all the games being played. It would open a new can of worms and that includes the so-called 13yr old victim, who lied through her front teeth and has kept her agenda going. lenlenlen, do not believe what the tabloids tell you about Polanski and his emotionally scarred victim. Pftttt!
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jan 5, 2018 14:01:31 GMT
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jan 5, 2018 20:59:09 GMT
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Post by shannondegroot on Jan 10, 2018 0:57:06 GMT
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 10, 2018 1:02:09 GMT
Ben Vereen!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not Ben Vereen!!!!! That man tap danced his way into my soul!!!!!!! But now, he's gotta go...
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Post by loofapotato on Jan 10, 2018 1:05:34 GMT
James Franco you dirty dirty boy.
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Jan 10, 2018 14:39:25 GMT
What kinds of actual advice can we give potential abusers? We can start with, keep space between your hands, mouth, and all other parts of your body, and another person. That is the most important.
Also, do not display parts of yourself usually covered with clothing, in social situations. Just to be safe, watch what you say, no dirty jokes, suggestive speech or double entendres.
If you like someone and want to see them again, ask them to go to lunch, dinner, or coffee. If they say no, don't ask again.
Helpful?
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 10, 2018 15:01:28 GMT
Still, the majority are not white, yet white men keep getting blamed as the problem. French actress Catherine Deneuve has said that men should be "free to hit on" women. She is one of 100 well-known French women who wrote an open letter, warning about a new "puritanism" sparked by recent sexual harassment scandals. www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42630108This could miss the point though. The problem is one heritage controls the film business and regard women as whores (as Rachel Weicz said in 2001). I wonder if the films made under Arthur Rank, a Christian British movie mogul, or the Carreras of Hammer, had the same reports of harassment.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 10, 2018 17:46:18 GMT
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jan 10, 2018 23:05:52 GMT
Still, the majority are not white, yet white men keep getting blamed as the problem. WTF?
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jan 10, 2018 23:14:19 GMT
do not display parts of yourself usually covered with clothing, in social situations. I think we know what you mean, but you may need to spell it out more clearly than that. For example, toes are usually covered by clothing, yet wearing sandals may still be completely socially appropriate for some social situations. Same with wearing low-cut blouses--probably not appropriate for a court hearing, but fine for some social situations. I think that may be too restrictive. If the primary interaction has been through the workplace, then it's fair. If the primary interaction has been through some other kind of relationship, maybe it's not. We all (or many of us) know happy couples in which one partner originally wasn't that into the other one. Without the pursuit, they never would have been together. Is that what we want, to keep people who might have been happy together from getting together? (I am not talking about people who met through work, though. I'm talking about people who met through family, mutual friends, church, other social situations like that.)
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