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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 13, 2017 17:13:45 GMT
It was the only time I've truly felt uncomfortable by a comedians stand up joke. It was a joke he made about his own daughters when they were still little children. I don't know if there's a "line" you shouldn't cross as a comedian, but surely making public jokes about ones OWN children in THAT way should be in there, no? I guess. I mean Kevin Hart made fun of his baby son. But I know what you mean. He is a father to daughters. Nasty and smarmy. I don't know the Kevin hart joke. I'll bet it wasn't as racy as the Louis C.K. joke was. |
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Post by deembastille on Nov 13, 2017 18:45:35 GMT
God no. KH was just making fun of the baby and his head problem.
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Post by poelzig on Nov 13, 2017 21:04:58 GMT
The takeaway I'm getting from all this is that if a famous filmmaker/actor pours me a drink, I should politely decline and leave the party for a few minutes to load up on tap water from the convenience store. Why would they pour a drink for the guy taking out the garbage and washing the dishes? I'm not familiar with being a dishwasher/janitor but do they really make you get the mop water from a convenience store? That seems very inefficient. Not to mention it makes convenience store a bit of a misnomer. Get it? |
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Nov 13, 2017 21:14:41 GMT
Why is Louis C.K being heaped into the same category as those others, if he's not a rapist/pedo/sexual abuser? Didn't he just ask some women for consent if he could fap to them? That's weird, but not as bad as what the others did. I don't think that's fair. The dude seems to just have a weird fetish. Also, it now makes this even funnier  : |
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Nov 13, 2017 21:17:41 GMT
Casey Affleck Ben Affleck Dustin Hoffman
What the hell are you talking about? When did they ever do anything wrong? |
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Nov 13, 2017 21:21:14 GMT
Any guesses on who will be the next one to join the list?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 13, 2017 21:40:36 GMT
Casey Affleck Ben Affleck Dustin Hoffman
What the hell are you talking about? When did they ever do anything wrong? All three have been accused as well, to varying degrees. Look it up; I no longer have the links. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 13, 2017 21:44:16 GMT
Why is Louis C.K being heaped into the same category as those others, if he's not a rapist/pedo/sexual abuser? Didn't he just ask some women for consent if he could fap to them? That's weird, but not as bad as what the others did. I don't think that's fair. The dude seems to just have a weird fetish. No, it seems he arranged to be in private places with women and then disrobed and masturbated without consent. He admitted it. Its a sad, done deal. |
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Post by deembastille on Nov 13, 2017 22:40:40 GMT
Why is Louis C.K being heaped into the same category as those others, if he's not a rapist/pedo/sexual abuser? Didn't he just ask some women for consent if he could fap to them? That's weird, but not as bad as what the others did. I don't think that's fair. The dude seems to just have a weird fetish. No, it seems he arranged to be in private places with women and then disrobed and masturbated without consent. He admitted it. Its a sad, done deal. whereas they were all adults and I don't know what woman would be okay with it during it but then bitches about it now, the point of the matter is HE'S A WEIRDASSED PERVERT! |
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Post by poelzig on Nov 13, 2017 23:07:33 GMT
No, it seems he arranged to be in private places with women and then disrobed and masturbated without consent. He admitted it. Its a sad, done deal. whereas they were all adults and I don't know what woman would be okay with it during it but then bitches about it now, the point of the matter is HE'S A WEIRDASSED PERVERT! I don't understand why people make uninformed comments. Why bother prattling on if you can't even be bothered to punch a few words into any search and take a few minutes to read the vast amount of coverage being given these topics at the moment? Spacey has been known to be a sick predator that likes to prey on boys for decades. Predator CK has been publicly called out about forcing women to watch him jerk off for well over a decade. Most of the women WERE NOT OKAY with him yanking his little winky and said as much at the time. CK and his powerful liberal pals called the women liars and at least one of the women quit stand up because of pressure from celebs that claim to be pro female. The hypocrisy is disgusting. Why the hell do people take the person being accused of the crime's word for what happened? To me reading what is said by ALL parties involved and then making an informed decision about what most likely happened makes by far the most sense. CK's self serving "confession" consisted of him saying he jerked off but the women wanted him to but he feels really really really badly that his compulsion made him do it. What a crock of shit. Read what he wrote. It's still mainly all about what a great guy he is for admitting it. Despite the fact he didn't really admit he did anything wrong. Of course people have called me a "twit" because I think adults having sex with kids is deplorable so feel free to be pro predator if you like. |
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Post by Jayman on Nov 13, 2017 23:33:25 GMT
I think the point is that women were put in a position that their career would be compromised or that they'd face all kinds of threats from powerful people had they come out. Ofcourse from a moral standpoint we wish they did come out sooner but still it's a difficult spot to be in. As far as the innocent till proven guilty argument, we're not talking about criminal trials and how our legal system works. In most of these cases it's the court of public opinion. When one person comes out who's not that trustworthy and seems to have an agenda or a lot to gain by it, then it's fair to question the legitimacy of the claim. But when multiple people start to come out telling the same story, I"m sorry but I'm not going to give the celebrity the benefit of the doubt. There's a lot of people that do bad things but can't be prosecuted for, but that doesn't mean they're these innocent flowers that deserve the benefit of the doubt. I don't need physical evidence in a court of law to call a slimeball a slimeball
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Nov 14, 2017 0:06:47 GMT
Why is Louis C.K being heaped into the same category as those others, if he's not a rapist/pedo/sexual abuser? Didn't he just ask some women for consent if he could fap to them? That's weird, but not as bad as what the others did. I don't think that's fair. The dude seems to just have a weird fetish. Also, it now makes this even funnier : Great video |
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Post by Eλευθερί on Nov 14, 2017 0:16:45 GMT
whereas they were all adults and I don't know what woman would be okay with it during it but then bitches about it now, the point of the matter is HE'S A WEIRDASSED PERVERT! I don't understand why people make uninformed comments. Why bother prattling on if you can't even be bothered to punch a few words into any search and take a few minutes to read the vast amount of coverage being given these topics at the moment? Spacey has been known to be a sick predator that likes to prey on boys for decades. Predator CK has been publicly called out about forcing women to watch him jerk off for well over a decade. Most of the women WERE NOT OKAY with him yanking his little winky and said as much at the time. CK and his powerful liberal pals called the women liars and at least one of the women quit stand up because of pressure from celebs that claim to be pro female. The hypocrisy is disgusting. Why the hell do people take the person being accused of the crime's word for what happened? To me reading what is said by ALL parties involved and then making an informed decision about what most likely happened makes by far the most sense. CK's self serving "confession" consisted of him saying he jerked off but the women wanted him to but he feels really really really badly that his compulsion made him do it. What a crock of shit. Read what he wrote. It's still mainly all about what a great guy he is for admitting it. Despite the fact he didn't really admit he did anything wrong. Of course people have called me a "twit" because I think adults having sex with kids is deplorable so feel free to be pro predator if you like. When you slipped "his powerful liberal friends" in there, you lost all credibility for any point you were trying to make. Just sayin |
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Post by Eλευθερί on Nov 14, 2017 0:19:31 GMT
I'm kind of wondering if when two or three, or five, years from now someone makes an accusation of rape or near-rape, or of serious sexual harassment, against a celebrity, whether the critics will be whining, "If this really happened as you claim, why didn't you say anything about it back in 2017 when everybody else was speaking up?"
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Post by poelzig on Nov 14, 2017 5:54:38 GMT
I don't understand why people make uninformed comments. Why bother prattling on if you can't even be bothered to punch a few words into any search and take a few minutes to read the vast amount of coverage being given these topics at the moment? Spacey has been known to be a sick predator that likes to prey on boys for decades. Predator CK has been publicly called out about forcing women to watch him jerk off for well over a decade. Most of the women WERE NOT OKAY with him yanking his little winky and said as much at the time. CK and his powerful liberal pals called the women liars and at least one of the women quit stand up because of pressure from celebs that claim to be pro female. The hypocrisy is disgusting. Why the hell do people take the person being accused of the crime's word for what happened? To me reading what is said by ALL parties involved and then making an informed decision about what most likely happened makes by far the most sense. CK's self serving "confession" consisted of him saying he jerked off but the women wanted him to but he feels really really really badly that his compulsion made him do it. What a crock of shit. Read what he wrote. It's still mainly all about what a great guy he is for admitting it. Despite the fact he didn't really admit he did anything wrong. Of course people have called me a "twit" because I think adults having sex with kids is deplorable so feel free to be pro predator if you like. When you slipped "his powerful liberal friends" in there, you lost all credibility for any point you were trying to make. Just sayin Not sure why telling the truth would upset you. The people that covered up his crimes and harassed his accusers are in fact very outspoken and well known liberals and member of the Democrat party. If conservatives were the ones raping women and children I would mention that as well. Just because you are a liberal also there's no logical reason to bury your head in the sand. That type of thinking is EXACTLY why these sick predators have been raping at will with no punishment for so long. |
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Post by poelzig on Nov 14, 2017 5:59:22 GMT
I'm kind of wondering if when two or three, or five, years from now someone makes an accusation of rape or near-rape, or of serious sexual harassment, against a celebrity, whether the critics will be whining, "If this really happened as you claim, why didn't you say anything about it back in 2017 when everybody else was speaking up?" Of course. There are always people who blame the victims. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Nov 14, 2017 7:17:10 GMT
It does make the fact that they gave the Handmaid's Tale an award kind of insincere and hypocritical.
Most of those being accused aren't exactly New Testament thumpers.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 14, 2017 17:24:58 GMT
No, it seems he arranged to be in private places with women and then disrobed and masturbated without consent. He admitted it. Its a sad, done deal. whereas they were all adults and I don't know what woman would be okay with it during it but then bitches about it now, the point of the matter is HE'S A WEIRDASSED PERVERT! Let me put it to you like this: There's this guy whom you look up to and respect. You emulate him. You would like to be like him. You meet the guy and he seems swell. He invites you for drinks. You go. He seems fine.
Then you accept an invitation to drinks again. Again he seems fine.
He invites you to a party. You get there, he shows you around, meet folks who could help your career, everythings going well.
The party starts to wind down. He invites you to a more private area in the house. You think he's probably going to snort a line of coke but you go anyway because either you wouldn't mind snorting line of coke too or you just don't want to be rude and are planning on saying you don't do coke anyhow. Once there he close the door behind you whips his thang and tries to rub it on you.
What do you do?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 14, 2017 17:36:11 GMT
whereas they were all adults and I don't know what woman would be okay with it during it but then bitches about it now, the point of the matter is HE'S A WEIRDASSED PERVERT! Let me put it to you like this: There's this guy whom you look up to and respect. You emulate him. You would like to be like him. You meet the guy and he seems swell. He invites you for drinks. You go. He seems fine.
Then you accept an invitation to drinks again. Again he seems fine.
He invites you to a party. You get there, he shows you around, meet folks who could help your career, everythings going well.
The party starts to wind down. He invites you to a more private area in the house. You think he's probably going to snort a line of coke but you go anyway because either you wouldn't mind snorting line of coke too or you just don't want to be rude and are planning on saying you don't do coke anyhow. Once there he close the door behind you whips his thang and tries to rub it on you.
What do you do?
If you're not interested you say so. You say something like, "I appreciate the offer, I'm flattered that you find me attractive, but I'm sorry to say that I'm just not interested in a sexual or romantic relationship with you." If the person persists, you leave. Otherwise, you get back to business as friends. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 14, 2017 17:58:26 GMT
Let me put it to you like this: There's this guy whom you look up to and respect. You emulate him. You would like to be like him. You meet the guy and he seems swell. He invites you for drinks. You go. He seems fine.
Then you accept an invitation to drinks again. Again he seems fine.
He invites you to a party. You get there, he shows you around, meet folks who could help your career, everythings going well.
The party starts to wind down. He invites you to a more private area in the house. You think he's probably going to snort a line of coke but you go anyway because either you wouldn't mind snorting line of coke too or you just don't want to be rude and are planning on saying you don't do coke anyhow. Once there he close the door behind you whips his thang and tries to rub it on you.
What do you do?
If you're not interested you say so. You say something like, "I appreciate the offer, I'm flattered that you find me attractive, but I'm sorry to say that I'm just not interested in a sexual or romantic relationship with you." If the person persists, you leave. Otherwise, you get back to business as friends. That's easy to say from a hypothetical point of view. You would think it would be that easy, but I'll bet its not. My understanding is that the women involved did some variation of what you suggested. But its not as simple as you make it when the situation involves a person to whom you are financially dependent or he becomes physical.
But look, We need to NOT further victimize the victims. What we need to do is create an environment where this sort of thing does not happen in the first place. Men need to be more aware of their own actions, and women need to be more pro-active in their own defense.
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