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Post by damngumby on Nov 5, 2017 20:24:57 GMT
Tom Brady Lance Armstrong Ben Johnson Rosie Ruiz Danny Almonte Tom Brady - Five uncontested World Championships. Lance Armstrong - Stripped of his achievements. Ben Johnson - Stripped of his achievements. Rosie Ruiz - Stripped of her achievement. Danny Almonte - Stripped of his achievements. One of these is not like the others. |
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Post by hi224 on Nov 5, 2017 21:06:22 GMT
eight men out is a great movie love it. But the movie, like the book, is 75% bullshit. The bonus that Cicotte was promised for winning 30 games, bullshit. No such things as performance bonuses in 1919. The whole Lefty Williams wife gets shot if the Sox win Game 8, bullshit. First mention of it is in Eight Men Out. I've read everything there is about the Black Sox. That being said, I did like the movie. I like David Strathairn and DB Sweeney. And it's a fairly accurate representation of Eliot Asinof's book. best book about the scandal you can recommend?. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 5, 2017 21:26:40 GMT
But the movie, like the book, is 75% bullshit. The bonus that Cicotte was promised for winning 30 games, bullshit. No such things as performance bonuses in 1919. The whole Lefty Williams wife gets shot if the Sox win Game 8, bullshit. First mention of it is in Eight Men Out. I've read everything there is about the Black Sox. That being said, I did like the movie. I like David Strathairn and DB Sweeney. And it's a fairly accurate representation of Eliot Asinof's book. best book about the scandal you can recommend?. Probably The Betrayal: the 1919 World Series and the Birth of Modern Baseball, by Charles Fountain. Others Turning the Black Sox White by Tim Hornbaker and Bob Hoie Fall From Grace:The Truth and Tragedy of "Shoeless Joe Jackson, by Tim Hornbaker Burying the Black Sox:How Baseball's Cover Up of the 1919 World Series Almost Succeeded by Gene Carney Eight Men Out is a good place to start. It's very readable and Asinof gets some of it right. Preface this by the fact that I think they are all guilty as hell. There are degrees of guilt, from Chick Gandil (100% crooked) to Jackson (905) guilty) to Weaver (maybe 25%), so I'm slanted to the "they sucked" stuff. The Joe Jackson book is a whitewash and the Turning the Black Sox (more about Comiskey) goes too far in the other direction. I've read a lot of stuff that isn't in books. Interviews with some of the Sox, newspaper accounts, hell, I read the trial transcripts once. It fascinates me. They did it and they did it because they thought they could get away with it. Period. Other were (Hal Chase made a habit of it), so they thought "why not". But they bolloxed it up. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 5, 2017 21:54:07 GMT
Tom Brady Lance Armstrong Ben Johnson Rosie Ruiz Danny Almonte Tom Brady - Five uncontested World Championships. At least 4 of which are tainted by cheating and will be remembered in the history books with asterisks. |
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Post by weststigersbob on Nov 5, 2017 23:11:47 GMT
Tom Brady - Five uncontested World Championships. At least 4 of which are tainted by cheating and will be remembered in the history books with asterisks. Bullshit. Provide a link that shows an asterisk next to any of New England's or Brady's SB wins. The only people putting asterisks on anything to do with Spygate and/or Deflategate is butthurt losers like you .... |
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Post by damngumby on Nov 6, 2017 0:02:37 GMT
Tom Brady - Five uncontested World Championships. At least 4 of which are tainted by cheating and will be remembered in the history books with asterisks. Apparently, you don’t know the definition of “uncontested”. Look it up before making an ass of yourself, again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 12:05:56 GMT
At least 4 of which are tainted by cheating and will be remembered in the history books with asterisks. Bullshit. Provide a link that shows an asterisk next to any of New England's or Brady's SB wins. The only people putting asterisks on anything to do with Spygate and/or Deflategate is butthurt losers like you .... I think not even butthurt losers are doing it. More likely it's only DC-Fan doing it, in the whole nation. His room in his mother's basement is full of asterisks on the walls. |
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Post by knowlto on Nov 6, 2017 13:46:46 GMT
Definitely Tom Brady and Bill Belichick.
Barry Bonds.
A-Roid.
Jose Canseco.
Mark McGwire.
Sammy Sosa.
All the steroid cheats in baseball, actually.
Any backup QB who has a good game or set of games on a good team, then gets an enormous contract because of it, like Matt Flynn, Matt Cassell, or Brock Osweiler.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 16:57:18 GMT
I'll be damned, I stand corrected. It's not just DC-Fan who thinks that Brady is a cheater. Knowlto does as well. Wow, the number of people who think so has doubled! That's gotta be impressive!  |
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