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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 10, 2017 16:33:21 GMT
Louis does look like a pervert to be fair. That does seem to be his preferred thing.
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Post by marco26 on Nov 10, 2017 18:41:08 GMT
Uhh, do you realize that what you just did was call women who are sexually abused liars? You are scum. If you believe anyone simply because they claim something, there's another word for you: gullible. My simple, and best response to you is you're a douche bag. Sorry to be so blunt and crass, but really that is the best response. Let me ask you one thing - answer this to yourself. If a woman claims that a guy just stole my purse or that guy dented my car...you wouldn't assume she's lying, would you? So why when a woman says anything sexually related your defensive denying kicks in? She's a liar!
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 10, 2017 19:15:11 GMT
you wouldn't assume she's lying, would you? When I write, in the post that you're responding to, "You don't assume that people are lying," what happens when you read it? It goes in one ear and out the other, because there's nothing in between to keep it in your head?
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Post by mangekyoalleluia on Nov 10, 2017 19:23:42 GMT
Shiiiiiiiet I liked Smallville.
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 10, 2017 20:35:39 GMT
Louis CK's statement. 
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 10, 2017 20:51:07 GMT
Louis CK's statement.  We can't base mores and laws on "power equations," because there's no rigorous, thorough analysis of the idea of power in these sorts of situations at all. There's a lot of rhetoric about it, but the rhetoric is completely unscientific. It just caters to an essentially fictional narrative.
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Post by marco26 on Nov 10, 2017 21:10:02 GMT
you wouldn't assume she's lying, would you? When I write, in the post that you're responding to, "You don't assume that people are lying," what happens when you read it? It goes in one ear and out the other, because there's nothing in between to keep it in your head? What happens when I read it? Uhh, I say to myself, "God, our education system has really failed. There are dopes in this world who can't even write a coherent three sentence paragraph." Look at this paragraph you wrote. It makes zero sense. What the fuck are you blabbing about here? You have no logical thought process past the word "especially." From that word on it looks like something a retard would write. "You don't assume that people are lying, but you don't assume that they're telling the truth either, especially when they're accusing someone of committing a crime, when there's no other evidence that the crime was committed or that the person in question committed it."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 22:27:38 GMT
Careful out there fellas...
She may not appear to be who she seems.....
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 10, 2017 22:34:17 GMT
It's irrelevant. There will almost always be zero evidence but if there are enough voices, you're pretty much fucked anyway (but at least you won't go to prison). Not necessarily. Look at Rolf Harris. That was commonwealth law though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 22:44:12 GMT
It's irrelevant. There will almost always be zero evidence but if there are enough voices, you're pretty much fucked anyway (but at least you won't go to prison). Not necessarily. Look at Rolf Harris. That was commonwealth law though. But that's my point; there was evidence there (his daughter's friend which he openly admitted to -- claiming it was consensual). In most of the cases coming out now though, it's primarily people saying something happened years ago. Difficult to prove.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 10, 2017 22:45:17 GMT
If you believe anyone simply because they claim something, there's another word for you: gullible. My simple, and best response to you is you're a douche bag. Sorry to be so blunt and crass, but really that is the best response. Let me ask you one thing - answer this to yourself. If a woman claims that a guy just stole my purse or that guy dented my car...you wouldn't assume she's lying, would you? So why when a woman says anything sexually related your defensive denying kicks in? She's a liar! Sexual harassment\assault charges operate on a different sphere. Evidence is also required and yours is not a wholly credible comparison, especially when there can be instant proof regarding a purse snatching or a dented car. Do people complain after 30yrs that their purse was stolen? Please keep things into perspective, otherwise whatever care or concern you wish to project for victims of sexual assault will appear phony. Sex has been used as a tool and manipulation technique for eons, and there are also scheming agendas and fake "victim" mentalities attached. It can also become about blackmail and smear campaigns. Heck, sex is pretty much what it is all about in a sense, since we are all only here due to byproduct of a f<>k. It is a slippery slope and needs to be treaded and treated with caution, insight and common sense.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 10, 2017 22:48:19 GMT
Not necessarily. Look at Rolf Harris. That was commonwealth law though. But that's my point; there was evidence there (his daughter's friend which he openly admitted to -- claiming it was consensual). In most of the cases coming out now though, it's primarily people saying something happened years ago. Difficult to prove. I agree. It is also questionable though, that a 15yr old would continue a relationship for over 15yrs with Harris, even into her legal yrs. What was she doing, collecting more evidence?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 22:51:24 GMT
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 11, 2017 0:00:35 GMT
When I write, in the post that you're responding to, "You don't assume that people are lying," what happens when you read it? It goes in one ear and out the other, because there's nothing in between to keep it in your head? What happens when I read it? Uhh, I say to myself, "God, our education system has really failed. There are dopes in this world who can't even write a coherent three sentence paragraph." Look at this paragraph you wrote. It makes zero sense. What the fuck are you blabbing about here? You have no logical thought process past the word "especially." From that word on it looks like something a retard would write. "You don't assume that people are lying, but you don't assume that they're telling the truth either, especially when they're accusing someone of committing a crime, when there's no other evidence that the crime was committed or that the person in question committed it."
So you couldn't understand "You don't assume that people are lying." That explains a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 2:15:37 GMT
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 11, 2017 2:19:15 GMT
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Post by mangekyoalleluia on Nov 11, 2017 10:44:24 GMT
And now Andrew kreisberg has been suspended by warner Bros after allegations, shorunner for the Arrow-verse on CW, I love those shows.... mirrors the Andy Signore story a few weeks back. t.co/wbqf78sQZq
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Post by mangekyoalleluia on Nov 11, 2017 11:19:20 GMT
Louis CK's statement.  We can't base mores and laws on "power equations," because there's no rigorous, thorough analysis of the idea of power in these sorts of situations at all. There's a lot of rhetoric about it, but the rhetoric is completely unscientific. It just caters to an essentially fictional narrative. I have to come back to Louis, as weird and stupid as it is to jerk off in front of women (that didnt say no), to lump him in with Kevin Spacey, Weinstein etc is ridiculous, he's a intelligent guy and hopefully he can reflect and work on himself for doing something so moronic. I think that people are too quick to dismiss a persons entirely nowadays and while the allegations are true, he hasnt gone around raping anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 11:29:17 GMT
We can't base mores and laws on "power equations," because there's no rigorous, thorough analysis of the idea of power in these sorts of situations at all. There's a lot of rhetoric about it, but the rhetoric is completely unscientific. It just caters to an essentially fictional narrative. I have to come back to Louis, as weird and stupid as it is to jerk off in front of women (that didnt say no), to lump him in with Kevin Spacey, Weinstein etc is ridiculous, he's a intelligent guy and hopefully he can reflect and work on himself for doing something so moronic. I think that people are too quick to dismiss a persons entirely nowadays and while the allegations are true, he hasnt gone around raping anyone. Yes, Louis CK is a bit overrated as a comedian anyway IMO, and funnily enough, he is a bit overrated when it comes to being a sex pest now.
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 11, 2017 11:32:29 GMT
Next up, George Takei
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