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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2018 7:28:14 GMT
From what I read it is going to be R rated so I don't think it is going to be 'pussified' as you called it and if it is anything like the comic books which they are saying it will be it is going to be very violent and brutal. You should really check out the comic books sometime though as they are awesome and some great news for fans of 'Red Sonja' Gail Simone is returning to Red Sonja for a brand new 'Red Sonja/ Tarzan' crossover series. It won't be released R18+ rated downunder. That would be commercial suicide. The 'R' rating talk about most movies, is in regards the US ratings, as that is where most are produced and financed. They operate on a different classification system. Their 'R' rating is the same guidelines as MA15+, except the age is 17 not 15 for accompaniment. I love those comic image covers.  I assumed the ratings in the US were the same as ours and I didn't know MA was 17 for accompaniment and not 15. I don't know what rating it will get here but you can expect there to be blood, gore and even some nudity if it is a proper adaption and I am looking forward to finding out what actress they cast in the role this time and while it might not be a big detail to some people I hope she has red hair or dyes her hair red 'cause a 'Red Sonja' movie without an actress with red hair would look kinda silly and they don't have Superman with long blonde hair or Batman with curly red hair.  I love the covers and artwork in the comics too and some of the monsters might be hard to pull off but I think they could do it. 
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 23, 2018 10:01:27 GMT
It won't be released R18+ rated downunder. That would be commercial suicide. The 'R' rating talk about most movies, is in regards the US ratings, as that is where most are produced and financed. They operate on a different classification system. Their 'R' rating is the same guidelines as MA15+, except the age is 17 not 15 for accompaniment. I love those comic image covers.
I don't think they would have much issue with the CGI technology they have today pulling off the creative fantasy aspect and elements. Red Sonja appears to be a very empowering and no-nonsense female comic book creation and I'm certain they will do her justice. She is a warrior through and through and no different to say Conan, regardless of gender. If they don't give her red hair, no point in calling it Red Sonja, that would be an insult to the audience and Red Sonja herself. Perhaps Deb, you need to be the technical advisor on the film, to make sure they get it right.  Ratings are a flummox. Every different country has it's own classification system and it can become quite confusing and hypocritical. What one may be-able to see in OZ, could be restricted to a specific age and over, say in NZ. Many MA15+'s, may be R16 or even R18 in NZ and no-one under that age is permitted to see them in a cinema at all. They have R13 and R15 too. Some R18+'s in OZ have been R16 and R13 in NZ. Suicide Squad in NZ, was automatically rated M by the film labeling body in NZ, due to it's classification here in OZ. Some group of parents complained about the content of it, and the OFLC in NZ then reviewed the film and they upped it to an R13, to keep younger kids from seeing it. Of course it is bulldust, because they would just end up seeing it on dvd or streamed at home, even if it does bear whatever age restriction. That is then up to the parents. Here is an example of the MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) ratings\classifications. Not many films get the NC17 rating in the States, which they perhaps should, because many exhibitors refuse to screen them. They relate it to porn for some reason. A film in the States, can also be released "unrated", as the MPAA, or CARA the sub-body (Classification and Ratings Administration), is not a legally binding federal government body:  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 5:29:28 GMT
I don't think they would have much issue with the CGI technology they have today pulling off the creative fantasy aspect and elements. Red Sonja appears to be a very empowering and no-nonsense female comic book creation and I'm certain they will do her justice. She is a warrior through and through and no different to say Conan, regardless of gender. If they don't give her red hair, no point in calling it Red Sonja, that would be an insult to the audience and Red Sonja herself. Perhaps Deb, you need to be the technical advisor on the film, to make sure they get it right. Ratings are a flummox. Every different country has it's own classification system and it can become quite confusing and hypocritical. What one may be-able to see in OZ, could be restricted to a specific age and over, say in NZ. Many MA15+'s, may be R16 or even R18 in NZ and no-one under that age is permitted to see them in a cinema at all. They have R13 and R15 too. Some R18+'s in OZ have been R16 and R13 in NZ. Suicide Squad in NZ, was automatically rated M by the film labeling body in NZ, due to it's classification here in OZ. Some group of parents complained about the content of it, and the OFLC in NZ then reviewed the film and they upped it to an R13, to keep younger kids from seeing it. Of course it is bulldust, because they would just end up seeing it on dvd or streamed at home, even if it does bear whatever age restriction. That is then up to the parents. Here is an example of the MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) ratings\classifications. Not many films get the NC17 rating in the States, which they perhaps should, because many exhibitors refuse to screen them. They relate it to porn for some reason. A film in the States, can also be released "unrated", as the MPAA, or CARA the sub-body (Classification and Ratings Administration), is not a legally binding federal government body: 
Thanks for the information and sorry for being taking so long to get back to you but I have been away for the past week on my honeymoon with Beccy and we got married for the second time on the 24th of February (the very first time here in Australia) and our wedding was wonderful and it was even better than our first one ‘cause we had my family and friends there for it this time and some of them weren’t able to come to our first wedding ‘cause they couldn’t get time off work to travel. Even we did not attend the parade this year it was an awesome time to get married around the same time as the 40th anniversary of the ‘Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras’ ‘cause our country has come so far in the last 40 years and only a year ago I didn’t think we would be able to get married here until after the next election but that has changed. 
Yes. ‘Red Sonja’ is a very empowering and no-nonsense female lead comic book series and I am really hoping they do her justice this time ‘cause I have been waiting a long time to see a proper Red Sonja movie and I think if it is done right it could be very successful and could lead to multiple movies since there are so many awesome stories that could be adapted to screen but the studios need to hire the right writers this time and the right actress 'cause the success of the movie is dependent on that. A lot of past female lead comic book movies have failed on the big screen 'cause they were poorly written and the writers weren't as good as the comic book writers and while there have been some exceptions like the recent 'Wonder Woman' movie the majority of the most popular adaptions have been TV shows like 'Wonder Woman', 'Sabrina the Teenage Witch', 'Witchblade', 'Wynonna Earp', 'Van Helsing' and 'Supergirl.' With 'Red Sonja' getting a push thanks to the success of 'Wonder Woman' the future of female lead comic book movies is very reliant on this movie and Jessica Chastain's 'Painkiller Jane' being successful 'cause to get a lot of the biggest selling female lead comic book movies on screen it is not going to be through DC or Marvel.  |
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Post by darkpast on Jun 22, 2019 4:55:02 GMT
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Post by darkpast on Jun 22, 2019 5:06:29 GMT
I don't want to be THAT guy, but there's no way it will be the awesome, violent, sexed up movie it should be with that director. its ok, she should not be directing based on experience, writing would be ok i suppose, i would prefer director with some action film experience
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 22, 2019 7:36:39 GMT
I don't want to be THAT guy, but there's no way it will be the awesome, violent, sexed up movie it should be with that director. its ok, she should not be directing based on experience, writing would be ok i suppose, i would prefer director with some action film experience Yeah! Some old school action director like John Milius, could make something excellent out of it. Hypocritewood is not too fond of him though, due to his extreme right wing politics.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 8:05:27 GMT
You beat me to it.  I was planning on bringing up this thread. It is awesome to see the movie is finally happening and hopefully they will get Gail Simone or Amy Chu to write it so we can have a movie as awesome as the comic books. From what I have been reading about it on some sites it looks like it is definitely being based on the comic books this time and Dynamite Entertainment could be involved. Now bring on Vampirella and Dejah Thoris movies so we can build up to a 'Swords of Sorrow' movie. The 'Swords of Sorrow' was awesome and not only was it the biggest team up of female characters under Dynamite Entertainment it was the biggest team of some of the best female writers in the industry. 
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 8:12:38 GMT
I don't want to be THAT guy, but there's no way it will be the awesome, violent, sexed up movie it should be with that director. It needed to be Robert Rodriguez. Give them a chance onethreetwo . I would say it largely depends on who writes the movie and the majority of 'Red Sonja' comic books since the character has been reintroduced under Dynamite Entertainment under female writers like Gail Simone, Amy Chu and Marguerite Bennett have been extremely violent with tons of blood and gore in them and Red Sonja tearing people's heads off and breaking arms and Amy Chu's series has been awesome. 
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Post by politicidal on Jun 23, 2019 0:17:03 GMT
its ok, she should not be directing based on experience, writing would be ok i suppose, i would prefer director with some action film experience Yeah! Some old school action director like John Milius, could make something excellent out of it. Hypocritewood is not too fond of him though, due to his extreme right wing politics. Him directing and maybe Oliver Stone writing (before he lost his mind). |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 23, 2019 0:24:51 GMT
Yeah! Some old school action director like John Milius, could make something excellent out of it. Hypocritewood is not too fond of him though, due to his extreme right wing politics. Him directing and maybe Oliver Stone writing (before he lost his mind). Even Stone directing could make it work into something very memorable. What do you mean before he lost his mind? I might be out of the loop regarding news about Stone. Hollycontrarywood obviously feel Milius lost his mind because of his politics, that is why he has in a sense been ostracised.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 23, 2019 0:27:47 GMT
I don't want to be THAT guy, but there's no way it will be the awesome, violent, sexed up movie it should be with that director. It needed to be Robert Rodriguez. Give them a chance onethreetwo . I would say it largely depends on who writes the movie and the majority of 'Red Sonja' comic books since the character has been reintroduced under Dynamite Entertainment under female writers like Gail Simone, Amy Chu and Marguerite Bennett have been extremely violent with tons of blood and gore in them and Red Sonja tearing people's heads off and breaking arms and Amy Chu's series has been awesome.
I love that cover image Deb.
If the film is presented skillfully and sublimely with its visuals, ala Conan The Barbarian and Destroyer, it could work bloody wonders, as long as they make it bloody too....
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Post by politicidal on Jun 23, 2019 2:14:27 GMT
Him directing and maybe Oliver Stone writing (before he lost his mind). Even Stone directing could make it work into something very memorable. What do you mean before he lost his mind? I might be out of the loop regarding news about Stone. Hollycontrarywood obviously feel Milius lost his mind because of his politics, that is why he has in a sense been ostracised. Stone's kind of paid lip service to conspiracy theorists as of late. You'd think it'd make his last few movies good but no.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 23, 2019 23:52:05 GMT
Even Stone directing could make it work into something very memorable. What do you mean before he lost his mind? I might be out of the loop regarding news about Stone. Hollycontrarywood obviously feel Milius lost his mind because of his politics, that is why he has in a sense been ostracised. Stone's kind of paid lip service to conspiracy theorists as of late. You'd think it'd make his last few movies good but no. Stone has always been fond of espousing conspiracy theories. I myself don't dismiss them entirely, especially where the corrupt and self-serving establishment is concerned. I would rather know another slant on something and have some inkling of awareness of what is going on in the corridors of control and power, rather than bury my head in the sand and accept what we are told by the media. Playing the fool, doesn't always mean one is the joker.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 24, 2019 0:25:11 GMT
Milius and Stone did their job for Left political advertising (Stone pushed the "rightwingers killed Kennedy" myth while Milius is not really a true rightwinger-he's much opposed to traditional European rightwing policies, the "Revilo Oliver,Enoch Powell" type worldview--both of them being Classical academics, their philosophy was much closer to the social mechanics behind Robert E Howard adventure stores than anything in a Milius film) --but the Hollywood political sphere moved beyond them.
It's very unlikely you will ever see another female-led movie directed by a white male in Hollywood either.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 24, 2019 0:34:26 GMT
Milius and Stone did their job for Left political advertising (Stone pushed the "rightwingers killed Kennedy" myth while Milius is not really a true rightwinger-he's much opposed to traditional European rightwing policies, the "Revilo Oliver,Enoch Powell" type worldview--both of them being Classical academics, their philosophy was much closer to the social mechanics behind Robert E Howard adventure stores than anything in a Milius film) --but the Hollywood political sphere moved beyond them. It's very unlikely you will ever see another female-led movie directed by a white male in Hollywood either.So then white male directors, have to put up with a phony charade of sexism being paraded before them by Hollywarped, just because they are white privileged males.
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Post by arekay on Jun 24, 2019 5:33:14 GMT
I’m a huge fan of the original. Can’t wait for this one.
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