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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 5:13:59 GMT
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 16, 2017 5:47:02 GMT
Poland England Iran Panama
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Post by weststigersbob on Nov 16, 2017 7:07:03 GMT
Imagine Russia, Mexico, Iran, Panama. Talk about a snooze fest. i think worse case scenario for England would be Germany, England, Denmark, Australia. I hope Poland and Portugal get really shit draws. There is no way known Poland is a Top 7 nation. And I just hate Portugal.
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 16, 2017 7:18:40 GMT
Imagine Russia, Mexico, Iran, Panama. Talk about a snooze fest. i think worse case scenario for England would be Germany, England, Denmark, Australia. I hope Poland and Portugal get really shit draws. There is no way known Poland is a Top 7 nation. And I just hate Portugal. Unless I'm mistaken, Mexico and Panama can't be drawn together as they're both from CONCACAF. No team from the same confederation can be drawn together (except UEFA which can have a max of two teams in one group).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 7:19:41 GMT
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Post by Pangolin on Nov 16, 2017 9:10:18 GMT
Spain is only in pot 2? Come one ...
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Post by weststigersbob on Nov 16, 2017 9:48:16 GMT
Imagine Russia, Mexico, Iran, Panama. Talk about a snooze fest. i think worse case scenario for England would be Germany, England, Denmark, Australia. I hope Poland and Portugal get really shit draws. There is no way known Poland is a Top 7 nation. And I just hate Portugal. Unless I'm mistaken, Mexico and Panama can't be drawn together as they're both from CONCACAF. No team from the same confederation can be drawn together (except UEFA which can have a max of two teams in one group). It’s based purely on FIFA rankings. No geographical considerations at all. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_seeding
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Post by weststigersbob on Nov 16, 2017 9:52:12 GMT
He doesn’t help any (Great player, bigger douche). They just always seem to get lucky, especially with drawing spots. If there is a weak group, Portugal is in it.
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 16, 2017 9:54:10 GMT
Unless I'm mistaken, Mexico and Panama can't be drawn together as they're both from CONCACAF. No team from the same confederation can be drawn together (except UEFA which can have a max of two teams in one group). It’s based purely on FIFA rankings. No geographical considerations at all. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_seedingThe seeding for the pots is based on FIFA rankings, yes. Drawing for groups is not. From the very link you provided: ETA: That also makes Germany, England and Denmark in one group impossible.
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Post by weststigersbob on Nov 16, 2017 10:57:00 GMT
The seeding for the pots is based on FIFA rankings, yes. Drawing for groups is not. From the very link you provided: ETA: That also makes Germany, England and Denmark in one group impossible. Honestly - that got added to Wikipedia later. When I first read it, that paragraph wasn’t there. sort of makes the pots irrelevant.
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Post by weststigersbob on Nov 16, 2017 11:07:55 GMT
I’ll tell you who this really benefits - Serbia. It’s almost guaranteed that they will end up in a group containing Tunisia, Egypt, Senegal or Iran. The only way this doesn’t happen is if either Argentina or Brazil draw Mexico. Interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 12:05:17 GMT
I can't wait to see the groups. I hope Panama and Costa Rica get good ones, for CONCACAF pride. I can't root for Mexico, they are our rivals, but I'd like the other two representatives of our conference to do well. Not that I have any illusions that they are contenders, but another big run like the one Costa Rica had last time would be nice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 12:21:53 GMT
I’ll tell you who this really benefits - Serbia. It’s almost guaranteed that they will end up in a group containing Tunisia, Egypt, Senegal or Iran. The only way this doesn’t happen is if either Argentina or Brazil draw Mexico. Interesting. Yeah, I suppose so, I don't think it is a massive benefit overall, but I think they've earned the right to avoid all but one European teams having already slogged there way to Russia via the European route.
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Post by weststigersbob on Nov 16, 2017 12:30:32 GMT
I can’t see it happening, unless they draw Russia. The team in Pot 2 you really want to draw is Mexico. Something like Russia, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Saudi Arabia would be alright. Likewise Poland, Peru, Iran, Panama. What Costa Rica don’t want is something like Brazil, Spain, Costa Rica, Serbia. That would be really unlucky. I’m waiting for a draw like Portugal, Mexico, Senegal, South Korea. I just know it’s going to happen. As for Australia - Our best draw would be Russia, Uruguay, Egypt, Australia. Worst - Germany, Colombia, Denmark, Australia.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 12:53:17 GMT
I actually don't mind if England get one of the better pot 1 teams, like Germany, Brazil, Argentina etc. Whatever the draw is England should be able to get through it (although obviously no guarantees here as recent history as shown) & Southgate needs to test out the 5 at the back, park the bus tactics early in a proper competitive match, if that is indeed his intention on how to go about this WC. If we draw someone like Russia we'll have most the possession and wont learn anything.
Obviously want easy draws in the KO stage though, you don't want to face one giant after another.
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