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Post by Aj_June on Nov 8, 2017 10:34:22 GMT
They say this - "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." They couldn't be more correct. Russel Westbrook is stats accumulator and that was what he was last season. You see there are two offensive players in his team right now and he is no where near what he was doing last season. His efficiency was no where near Harden last season and yet they robbed Harden (who got his team 3rd in strong western conference without a single superstar in his team) of his MVP. Russel Westbrook was failing miserably in clutch plays and in-spite of that kept taking shots in last minutes only to miss them. Harden was smarter all through last season. He played for team and not for fame. Same is the case this season as you could see he didn't took a last second shot against 76ers but let Gordon take the fame.
The fact of the matter is that Harden haters have false ideas about him. That he plays for himself. That's a lie. In fact his high number of assists says otherwise. Anyone who closely watches Rockets games knows that Harden is not a selfish player. He is always looking to be creative and help his teammates. Gordon and Anderson were ordinary players in NOP. But they became good because Harden made them good. Now Harden haters try to say that Houston is having success because of 3 point shooters. That's not the case. Harden runs the offense so well and that's why Rockets has a good offense. Harden recently produced a phenomenal performance which no one ever has matched apart from Wilt. He produced 56 points on 25 shots and contributed 91 points to his team. Only harden (last season ) and Wilt have had such performances before. I am pretty sure people will once again Slander Harden because of his so called poor defense ignoring all the while that he makes up for his average defense by being so out of world good in his offense. I am sure they will again cheat him and give the award to Durant or Curry or someone.
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 8, 2017 13:13:48 GMT
It is a little early for MVP talk, but Westbrook DID average a triple double. Sure, he is a complete stat whore, but it was still a feat that I feel influenced many voters. I still think Harden is the better player though.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 8, 2017 14:47:24 GMT
They say this - "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." They couldn't be more correct. Russel Westbrook is stats accumulator and that was what he was last season. You see there are two offensive players in his team right now and he is no where near what he was doing last season. His efficiency was no where near Harden last season and yet they robbed Harden (who got his team 3rd in strong western conference without a single superstar in his team) of his MVP. Russel Westbrook was failing miserably in clutch plays and in-spite of that kept taking shots in last minutes only to miss them. Harden was smarter all through last season. He played for team and not for fame. Same is the case this season as you could see he didn't took a last second shot against 76ers but let Gordon take the fame. The fact of the matter is that Harden haters have false ideas about him. That he plays for himself. That's a lie. In fact his high number of assists says otherwise. Anyone who closely watches Rockets games knows that Harden is not a selfish player. He is always looking to be creative and help his teammates. Gordon and Anderson were ordinary players in NOP. But they became good because Harden made them good. Now Harden haters try to say that Houston is having success because of 3 point shooters. That's not the case. Harden runs the offense so well and that's why Rockets has a good offense. Harden recently produced a phenomenal performance which no one ever has matched apart from Wilt. He produced 56 points on 25 shots and contributed 91 points to his team. Only harden (last season ) and Wilt have had such performances before. I am pretty sure people will once again Slander Harden because of his so called poor defense ignoring all the while that he makes up for his average defense by being so out of world good in his offense. I am sure they will again cheat him and give the award to Durant or Curry or someone. I'm not the most avid of NBA fans and your post is mostly valid as far as I can see, but his defense is not average. Although, if we want to nitpick, I guess you could refer to it as "so-called poor defense" because one has to actually play defense for one to play poor defense.
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 8, 2017 16:05:57 GMT
They say this - "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." They couldn't be more correct. Russel Westbrook is stats accumulator and that was what he was last season. You see there are two offensive players in his team right now and he is no where near what he was doing last season. His efficiency was no where near Harden last season and yet they robbed Harden (who got his team 3rd in strong western conference without a single superstar in his team) of his MVP. Russel Westbrook was failing miserably in clutch plays and in-spite of that kept taking shots in last minutes only to miss them. Harden was smarter all through last season. He played for team and not for fame. Same is the case this season as you could see he didn't took a last second shot against 76ers but let Gordon take the fame. The fact of the matter is that Harden haters have false ideas about him. That he plays for himself. That's a lie. In fact his high number of assists says otherwise. Anyone who closely watches Rockets games knows that Harden is not a selfish player. He is always looking to be creative and help his teammates. Gordon and Anderson were ordinary players in NOP. But they became good because Harden made them good. Now Harden haters try to say that Houston is having success because of 3 point shooters. That's not the case. Harden runs the offense so well and that's why Rockets has a good offense. Harden recently produced a phenomenal performance which no one ever has matched apart from Wilt. He produced 56 points on 25 shots and contributed 91 points to his team. Only harden (last season ) and Wilt have had such performances before. I am pretty sure people will once again Slander Harden because of his so called poor defense ignoring all the while that he makes up for his average defense by being so out of world good in his offense. I am sure they will again cheat him and give the award to Durant or Curry or someone. Definitely a rebound accumulator, especially after missed free-throws when the other team headed downcourt and Addams and Kanter blocked out for him. I thought his issue late in games was that he could never pace himself and was always losing accuracy by the end but too bullheaded to realize it.
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 10, 2017 9:31:02 GMT
They say this - "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." They couldn't be more correct. Russel Westbrook is stats accumulator and that was what he was last season. You see there are two offensive players in his team right now and he is no where near what he was doing last season. His efficiency was no where near Harden last season and yet they robbed Harden (who got his team 3rd in strong western conference without a single superstar in his team) of his MVP. Russel Westbrook was failing miserably in clutch plays and in-spite of that kept taking shots in last minutes only to miss them. Harden was smarter all through last season. He played for team and not for fame. Same is the case this season as you could see he didn't took a last second shot against 76ers but let Gordon take the fame. The fact of the matter is that Harden haters have false ideas about him. That he plays for himself. That's a lie. In fact his high number of assists says otherwise. Anyone who closely watches Rockets games knows that Harden is not a selfish player. He is always looking to be creative and help his teammates. Gordon and Anderson were ordinary players in NOP. But they became good because Harden made them good. Now Harden haters try to say that Houston is having success because of 3 point shooters. That's not the case. Harden runs the offense so well and that's why Rockets has a good offense. Harden recently produced a phenomenal performance which no one ever has matched apart from Wilt. He produced 56 points on 25 shots and contributed 91 points to his team. Only harden (last season ) and Wilt have had such performances before. I am pretty sure people will once again Slander Harden because of his so called poor defense ignoring all the while that he makes up for his average defense by being so out of world good in his offense. I am sure they will again cheat him and give the award to Durant or Curry or someone. Definitely a rebound accumulator, especially after missed free-throws when the other team headed downcourt and Addams and Kanter blocked out for him. I thought his issue late in games was that he could never pace himself and was always losing accuracy by the end but too bullheaded to realize it. Yeah....I had defended Westbrook's rebounds last season (though always spoke against his inefficient and mindless shooting) but it seems you are right. His teammates were helping him out in getting rebounds. What about Harden's last night's stats.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 10:43:45 GMT
OKC is 4-7 and winless against the Western Conference  I get it's early - but that's ominous they're 0-6 vs. The West right now.
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 10, 2017 11:58:10 GMT
OKC is 4-7 and winless against the Western Conference  I get it's early - but that's ominous they're 0-6 vs. The West right now. While they may be able to improve from their current position it is very clear that they won't be any kind of threat in playoffs. I am so glad that Rockets didn't sign Anthony Carmelo (they were looking to sign him). Thankfully Westbrook won't get chance to stuff his stats with numbers that look too glamorous to be questioned (Unless Carmelo or Paul become injured). I am waiting to see how Spurs play once Kawhi and Parker return.
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 10, 2017 15:16:40 GMT
OKC is now 0-6 in games that go to clutch time (within 5 last 5 min or OT). Even before last night's loss where they were up 2 with 8:26 to go and lost by 8, they were allowing 61% clutch time shooting, 56% on 3s, and only shooting 60% of their free throws.
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 11, 2017 11:42:09 GMT
OKC is now 0-6 in games that go to clutch time (within 5 last 5 min or OT). Even before last night's loss where they were up 2 with 8:26 to go and lost by 8, they were allowing 61% clutch time shooting, 56% on 3s, and only shooting 60% of their free throws. Right now MVP odds are Giannis 3$ profit for 1$ stake Harden 3.25$ profits for 1$ Stake Lebron 4.5$ profit for 1$ Stake Curry $18 profit for 1$ stake Please advice if it's a good idea to put 100 bucks on Harden? GSW players cancel each other out. Westbrook has to share with Paul George. I don't think Milwaukee will finish very high so in my personal opinion Harden would most likely win it this time. Or should I put 100 on Harden and $10 on Curry so that if Durant gets injured Curry steps up the game? Edit: Irviring seems to be a dark horse type contender with current odds of 15 ($14 profit for 1$ stake).
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 11, 2017 12:00:30 GMT
OKC is now 0-6 in games that go to clutch time (within 5 last 5 min or OT). Even before last night's loss where they were up 2 with 8:26 to go and lost by 8, they were allowing 61% clutch time shooting, 56% on 3s, and only shooting 60% of their free throws. Right now MVP odds are Giannis 3$ profit for 1$ stake Harden 3.25$ profits for 1$ Stake Lebron 4.5$ profit for 1$ Stake Curry $18 profit for 1$ stake Please advice if it's a good idea to put 100 bucks on Harden? GSW players cancel each other out. Westbrook has to share with Paul George. I don't think Milwaukee will finish very high so in my personal opinion Harden would most likely win it this time. Or should I put 100 on Harden and $10 on Curry so that if Durant gets injured Curry steps up the game? Edit: Irviring seems to be a dark horse type contender with current odds of 15 ($14 profit for 1$ stake). I think he's got a good chance having been stiffed twice in a row, but the same could be said of Lebron. Giannis's team won't win enough. OKC may decide George is the go-to guy after last night, and Westbrook won't win without averaging a triple-double. I think they avoid the Warriors. Kyrie may be a good 2nd choice. www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/nba-championship/regular-season-mvp
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 11, 2017 12:07:08 GMT
Right now MVP odds are Giannis 3$ profit for 1$ stake Harden 3.25$ profits for 1$ Stake Lebron 4.5$ profit for 1$ Stake Curry $18 profit for 1$ stake Please advice if it's a good idea to put 100 bucks on Harden? GSW players cancel each other out. Westbrook has to share with Paul George. I don't think Milwaukee will finish very high so in my personal opinion Harden would most likely win it this time. Or should I put 100 on Harden and $10 on Curry so that if Durant gets injured Curry steps up the game? Edit: Irviring seems to be a dark horse type contender with current odds of 15 ($14 profit for 1$ stake). I think he's got a good chance having been stiffed twice in a row, but the same could be said of Lebron. Giannis's team won't win enough. OKC may decide George is the go-to guy after last night, and Westbrook won't win without averaging a triple-double. I think they avoid the Warriors. Kyrie may be a good 2nd choice. www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/nba-championship/regular-season-mvpYeah...I think you are right about LeBron. It's a bit early now. Considering that Isaiah Thomas may return soon and Cleveland may get on winning mode, Lebron could be a good choice. Also, we have not seen harden with a full form Chris Paul. I am pretty sure that Harden's assists will come down a good deal once Paul is healthy. I will halt my bet! Irving is really a tempting choice I must agree.
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