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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 19:15:05 GMT
........worried that the Justice League review embargo hasn't been lifted? ![](https://s26.postimg.org/gf93ycxax/giveup.gif) I'd say it's a massive worry if it hasn't been lifted by Monday and the movie is DOA if it isn't lifted Tuesday. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/m8f14k0ih/yes.gif)
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 8, 2017 19:37:07 GMT
The Embargo means next to nothing to me and probably doesn't mean much more than them hedging their bets.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 8, 2017 20:05:34 GMT
The Embargo means next to nothing to me and probably doesn't mean much more than them hedging their bets. Well I would say it doesn't seem to match with the "early reviews say it's brilliant" type of reports, because if that's really how the film was being reviewed, then why wouldn't you go ahead and get those reviews out there? Especially since Ragnarok is just sitting there eating up all of the hype ramp up time that JL would ordinarily be benefitting from if Thor wasn't in theaters.
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 8, 2017 20:13:48 GMT
The Embargo means next to nothing to me and probably doesn't mean much more than them hedging their bets. Well I would say it doesn't seem to match with the "early reviews say it's brilliant" type of reports, because if that's really how the film was being reviewed, then why wouldn't you go ahead and get those reviews out there? Especially since Ragnarok is just sitting there eating up all of hype ramp up time JL would ordinarily be dominating if Thor was in theaters. They held off on Wonder Woman and it "worked". Hollywood is not a risk-taker. And I will go out on a limb here and say that Justice League doesn't need Hype...everyone planning on seeing Justice League on opening weekend already knows and will be there even if there isn't a single commercial between now and then. Once it comes out, they can open the floodgates and try to get the second weekend and third weekend and "Hey, wanna go see a movie" crowds. Ragnarok is eating up the hype, but that will all have died down by the time JL opens. News cycles are short nowadays. Nobody will be talking about Thor in 2 weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 20:15:22 GMT
The Embargo means next to nothing to me and probably doesn't mean much more than them hedging their bets. Well I would say it doesn't seem to match with the "early reviews say it's brilliant" type of reports, because if that's really how the film was being reviewed, then why wouldn't you go ahead and get those reviews out there? Especially since Ragnarok is just sitting there eating up all of the hype ramp up time that JL would ordinarily be benefitting from if Thor wasn't in theaters. WB's track record of lying to and duping DC fans is so strong that I find it hard to understand how anyone believes a single word they say about anything DC related...EVER. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/m8f14k0ih/yes.gif) And of course, you are right. If the movie was good then you'd assume they would have lifted the embargo by now. The longer they leave it the worse it probably is. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/m8f14k0ih/yes.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 20:16:22 GMT
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 8, 2017 20:20:41 GMT
Well I would say it doesn't seem to match with the "early reviews say it's brilliant" type of reports, because if that's really how the film was being reviewed, then why wouldn't you go ahead and get those reviews out there? Especially since Ragnarok is just sitting there eating up all of hype ramp up time JL would ordinarily be dominating if Thor was in theaters. They held off on Wonder Woman and it "worked". Hollywood is not a risk-taker. And I will go out on a limb here and say that Justice League doesn't need Hype...everyone planning on seeing Justice League on opening weekend already knows and will be there even if there isn't a single commercial between now and then. Once it comes out, they can open the floodgates and try to get the second weekend and third weekend and "Hey, wanna go see a movie" crowds. Ragnarok is eating up the hype, but that will all have died down by the time JL opens. News cycles are short nowadays. Nobody will be talking about Thor in 2 weeks. That's a good question. How many people who go on opening night aren't affected at all by trailers and hype. You think it's 100%? I'm actually not sure. Surely there has to be some value to having had 3 weeks without Thor to hype the movie?
But again, if the reviews were really the "it's brilliant" type, then what risk is there? Why wouldn't they want those reviews out there?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 20:23:21 GMT
Yeah, I know when it is officially supposed to be lifted. WB chose to lift Wonder Woman's review embargo early because they knew it was going to be well reviewed. If they decide not to lift Justice League's review embargo early then I think it's highly likely Justice League won't be receiving a "fresh" RT rating. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/m8f14k0ih/yes.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 20:27:21 GMT
Yeah, I know when it is officially supposed to be lifted. WB chose to lift Wonder Woman's review embargo early because they knew it was going to be well reviewed. If they decide not to lift Justice League's review embargo early then I think it's highly likely Justice League won't be receiving a "fresh" RT rating. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/m8f14k0ih/yes.gif) Who knows. It's not a great sign and it probably means it'll get a low score on RT but that's not definite. The 'IT' embargo lifted the day before and that was a critical success.
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 8, 2017 20:44:15 GMT
They held off on Wonder Woman and it "worked". Hollywood is not a risk-taker. And I will go out on a limb here and say that Justice League doesn't need Hype...everyone planning on seeing Justice League on opening weekend already knows and will be there even if there isn't a single commercial between now and then. Once it comes out, they can open the floodgates and try to get the second weekend and third weekend and "Hey, wanna go see a movie" crowds. Ragnarok is eating up the hype, but that will all have died down by the time JL opens. News cycles are short nowadays. Nobody will be talking about Thor in 2 weeks. That's a good question. How many people who go on opening night aren't affected at all by trailers and hype. You think it's 100%? I'm actually not sure. Surely there has to be some value to having had 3 weeks without Thor to hype the movie?
But again, if the reviews were really the "it's brilliant" type, then what risk is there? Why wouldn't they want those reviews out there?
Opening night? Yes, I think it's 100% or statistically so close that it doesn't matter. If you are going to opening night of Justice League, you decided that 6 months if not a year ago. Opening Weekend will be a little lower, but I would still put it in the 90's. It has my money right now. No matter what happens, Justice League will get my money. Maybe not opening weekend, but that's just because I am a 40 year old man and can't always adjust my schedule around movie openings. Thor Ragnarock will get my money next week. BvS and Suicide Squad got my money even though I knew they weren't going to be good...because I wanted to see those stories told on the big screen. The first GI Joe movie got my money and I knew that would be bad from the first trailer. Part of the problem? Probably. But Hype with these franchises means less and less in reality. "Valerian" probably needed the Hype train since it was an unknown quantity. But Justice League and any of the Marvel films don't. And as for the reviews, they don't know what they are going to be...I am sure they thought the reviews for BvS were going to be amazing, (Look at the Sad Batfleck meme as at least some proof) and all it did was come back to bite them... They will already win the weekend, there's no question about that...so why taint the small number of people who might be swayed?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 8, 2017 20:48:50 GMT
........worried that the Justice League review embargo hasn't been lifted? ![](https://s26.postimg.org/gf93ycxax/giveup.gif) I'd say it's a massive worry if it hasn't been lifted by Monday and the movie is DOA if it isn't lifted Tuesday. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/m8f14k0ih/yes.gif) Here's where I fall on the issue: I only care what I think when I actually see the movie.
if it sucks I'll admit it. The same way I've admitted that between BvS and Civil War, CW was the better movie.
But if I like the movie, no amount of critics poo pooing it will make me like it less. I've liked many a movie that the critics didn't like, and vice versa. Movie reviews are just opinions made to give you and idea of what the movie is like. It shouldn't sway you one way or another. If you want to see a movie, you should go see it.
Heck, even a shitty movie can be fun. Fast and Furious franchise, anyone?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 8, 2017 21:02:48 GMT
That's a good question. How many people who go on opening night aren't affected at all by trailers and hype. You think it's 100%? I'm actually not sure. Surely there has to be some value to having had 3 weeks without Thor to hype the movie?
But again, if the reviews were really the "it's brilliant" type, then what risk is there? Why wouldn't they want those reviews out there?
Opening night? Yes, I think it's 100% or statistically so close that it doesn't matter. If you are going to opening night of Justice League, you decided that 6 months if not a year ago. Opening Weekend will be a little lower, but I would still put it in the 90's. It has my money right now. No matter what happens, Justice League will get my money. Maybe not opening weekend, but that's just because I am a 40 year old man and can't always adjust my schedule around movie openings. Thor Ragnarock will get my money next week. BvS and Suicide Squad got my money even though I knew they weren't going to be good...because I wanted to see those stories told on the big screen. The first GI Joe movie got my money and I knew that would be bad from the first trailer. Part of the problem? Probably. But Hype with these franchises means less and less in reality. "Valerian" probably needed the Hype train since it was an unknown quantity. But Justice League and any of the Marvel films don't. And as for the reviews, they don't know what they are going to be...I am sure they thought the reviews for BvS were going to be amazing, (Look at the Sad Batfleck meme as at least some proof) and all it did was come back to bite them... They will already win the weekend, there's no question about that...so why taint the small number of people who might be swayed? Yeah, you just do things I wouldn't do. I mean SS was about the most generic story I've ever seen. I wrote a piece one time that you could take almost every single character out of the film and nothing would have changed about the plot. Seriously, that whole film could have just been Deadshot by himself. None of the characters had any sort of an arc or any effect on the plot. I'm just not spending money to support something that lazy.
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 8, 2017 21:11:41 GMT
Opening night? Yes, I think it's 100% or statistically so close that it doesn't matter. If you are going to opening night of Justice League, you decided that 6 months if not a year ago. Opening Weekend will be a little lower, but I would still put it in the 90's. It has my money right now. No matter what happens, Justice League will get my money. Maybe not opening weekend, but that's just because I am a 40 year old man and can't always adjust my schedule around movie openings. Thor Ragnarock will get my money next week. BvS and Suicide Squad got my money even though I knew they weren't going to be good...because I wanted to see those stories told on the big screen. The first GI Joe movie got my money and I knew that would be bad from the first trailer. Part of the problem? Probably. But Hype with these franchises means less and less in reality. "Valerian" probably needed the Hype train since it was an unknown quantity. But Justice League and any of the Marvel films don't. And as for the reviews, they don't know what they are going to be...I am sure they thought the reviews for BvS were going to be amazing, (Look at the Sad Batfleck meme as at least some proof) and all it did was come back to bite them... They will already win the weekend, there's no question about that...so why taint the small number of people who might be swayed? Yeah, you just do things I wouldn't do. I mean SS was about the most generic story I've ever seen. I wrote a piece one time that you could take almost every single character out of the film and nothing would have changed about the plot. Seriously, that whole film could have just been Deadshot by himself. None of the characters had any sort of an arc or any effect on the plot. I'm just not spending money to support something that lazy. Oh agreed. It was terrible. But better than BvS...at least more entertaining. Though I am in the group that liked the second half (ya know...the part with plot) better than the first. And as with most of the DCEU films, there were glimmers of hope for the future in it...(Harley, Waller, El Diablo and Deadshot were great, Leto's Joker I came to appreciate, though he was over-used...)
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Post by scabab on Nov 8, 2017 22:26:53 GMT
If it gets anything above the 30% range then I'll take that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 22:36:12 GMT
If it gets anything above the 30% range then I'll take that. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/6h2ujupw9/nope.gif) I don't think many people would be happy with anything that low.
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Post by scabab on Nov 8, 2017 22:39:56 GMT
If it gets anything above the 30% range then I'll take that. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/6h2ujupw9/nope.gif) I don't think many people would be happy with anything that low. They probably wouldn't but seeing as BvS and SS got in the 20% range and I don't expect Justice League to be too much better then it would be good enough for me. It ain't gonna get good reviews realistically.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 8, 2017 22:43:32 GMT
I don't think many people would be happy with anything that low. They probably wouldn't but seeing as BvS and SS got in the 20% range and I don't expect Justice League to be too much better then it would be good enough for me. It ain't gonna get good reviews realistically. Do you believe those positive reactions in the other thread where it was compared to Wonder Woman, quality wise?
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Post by scabab on Nov 8, 2017 22:52:09 GMT
They probably wouldn't but seeing as BvS and SS got in the 20% range and I don't expect Justice League to be too much better then it would be good enough for me. It ain't gonna get good reviews realistically. Do you believe those positive reactions in the other thread where it was compared to Wonder Woman, quality wise? I never really pay attention to these things. I'll wait to see what kind of reviews it gets at the time. I'd love if it were good and I'll see it regardless but I ain't really expecting too much from it. I haven't been overly impressed with the trailers though thankfully they haven't showed too much this time.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 8, 2017 22:53:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 22:59:40 GMT
It says "page not found." I guess we can only hypothesize as to why it was removed.
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