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Post by marco26 on Nov 11, 2017 18:38:21 GMT
OK, there's been a ton of sexual harassment/assault cases lately. Politics, sports world, business, FOX News...and now it seems everybody in Hollywood is being nailed. My God, in today's paper someone was accusing George Takei...Mr. Sulu himself was going for a little warp factor five on some poor young guy!
But there's one that stands out as being a bit off -- Louis C.K. Three or four girls say he jerked off in front of them. He admits it. But here's the deal. Those girls were huge fans of his and wanted to be around Louis. Back to his hotel. Now what exactly is Louis CK supposed to think? OK, the jerking off part in front of them is odd, but maybe that's Louis' idea of foreplay. Point is, those girls liked him. Made no bones about it. How is a guy supposed to know that initiating sex with someone who is willingly with you, with someone who has shown an interest in you might be a career ending move?
What the fuck is the point of being a celebrity if you can't have some fun in a hotel with chicks who dig you? Clearly Weinstein is scum. He was doing his thing with girls who were repulsed by him. But this Louis CK sexual harass story...I just don't see it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 18:43:25 GMT
No, I kinda think it's funny. It's exactly the kind of thing he'd talk about in his routines.
While Spacey might struggle to overcome his accusations, I think Louis CK might weirdly benefit from his.
Plus, he never touched or groped or assaulted anyone which I actually do think makes a difference here. He essentially flashed his dick and the women were free to walk off (though interestingly, one woman seems to have stayed until he... ahem... concluded... before choosing to leave).
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Post by marsexplorer on Nov 11, 2017 18:45:55 GMT
Depends on if the women said no or stop or something of that ilk. If they said nothing he didn't do anything wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 20:37:34 GMT
i get vilified for this.
so be it.
WTF did Desiree Washington invite Mike Tyson up to her hotel room for a 2:00am (or whatever it was) in the morning.
do you think he wanted milk and cookies?
be careful out there fellas - be careful.....
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Nov 11, 2017 20:43:24 GMT
he's a stand-up comedian! they are all dirtballs! 
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 20:47:23 GMT
he's a stand-up comedian! they are all dirtballs!  Bill Burr trashes and buries Philly - hysterical - and he walks out to a standing ovation! 
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 11, 2017 20:47:24 GMT
Pee-wee Herman was enjoying himself in a room full of people enjoying themselves and it wrecked his career. Not just his kids show.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 11, 2017 20:51:37 GMT
I don't have any problem with it, no, and supposedly the girls consented at the time. He didn't assault anyone, he didn't bar them from leaving, etc.
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Post by Beardy McJewsenheimer ESQ on Nov 11, 2017 21:56:08 GMT
This incident has really troubled and upset me and made me ponder and contemplate things.
Not him showing his dick and jerking off. But the fact that Netflix cancelled his special. That's not OK
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Nov 11, 2017 21:57:06 GMT
This incident has really troubled and upset me and made me ponder and contemplate things. Not him showing his dick and jerking off. But the fact that Netflix cancelled his special. That's not OK comedy clubs smell worse than a highway rest-stop bathroom. why is this a shock?
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Nov 12, 2017 1:26:03 GMT
OK, there's been a ton of sexual harassment/assault cases lately. Politics, sports world, business, FOX News...and now it seems everybody in Hollywood is being nailed. My God, in today's paper someone was accusing George Takei...Mr. Sulu himself was going for a little warp factor five on some poor young guy! But there's one that stands out as being a bit off -- Louis C.K. Three or four girls say he jerked off in front of them. He admits it. But here's the deal. Those girls were huge fans of his and wanted to be around Louis. Back to his hotel. Now what exactly is Louis CK supposed to think? OK, the jerking off part in front of them is odd, but maybe that's Louis' idea of foreplay. Point is, those girls liked him. Made no bones about it. How is a guy supposed to know that initiating sex with someone who is willingly with you, with someone who has shown an interest in you might be a career ending move? What the fuck is the point of being a celebrity if you can't have some fun in a hotel with chicks who dig you? Clearly Weinstein is scum. He was doing his thing with girls who were repulsed by him. But this Louis CK sexual harass story...I just don't see it. now rebel wilson is claiming she was sexually harassed? c'mon. who's next: oprah? kathy griffin? rosie o'donnell?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 12:30:58 GMT
i get vilified for this. so be it. WTF did Desiree Washington invite Mike Tyson up to her hotel room for a 2:00am (or whatever it was) in the morning. do you think he wanted milk and cookies? be careful out there fellas - be careful..... Mike Tyson does seem the rapey type though, you gotta admit! There is one interview with Tyson, which I'm sure you've seen, at a press gathering at his gym, where journalists were asking questions, and a female journalist asks a question which Tyson responds with: "are you talking out of turn?". She replies "I think we're all asking questions" He replies "well normally, I only do interviews with females if I can fornicate with then... so you better not say another word, unless you want to... you know". And it was pretty menacing the way he said it too. So basically what Mike Tyson is saying here is; if you say another word that gives me permission to have sex with you. And by the way, who born in the 20th century still uses the word 'fornicate'?  Is that a common word in America? And I'm sure you've heard the story of Teddy Atlas holding a gun to his head when he was 17 or 18 or something, after he touched up a 14 year old, and he told Tyson at gun point "if you touch her again I will kill you". And his ex-manager said this rape charge was only a matter of time before it happened. And his other ex's have spoken about abusive relationships with him. And although Tyson still protests his innocent (and sounds quite believable I have to admit), he has let his guard slip when he's said "the thing I can't understand is there are about 7 or 8 incidents where I've done much worse than what I did to her, and I didn't get charged for those". What he means by this I'm not 100% sure. But if he isn't guilty of this, he has definitely done something! And finally, it was Tyson's room it happened in, not hers. That's one thing they both agree on. He claims that they had already talked about having sex, and what he was going to do when they got in the room. She claims nothing of the sort, she said they were supposed to be going out on a date, he picked her up in his limo, they went straight to his hotel unbeknown to her, and Tyson said "I've just got to pick something up from my room, then we'll go", and she (naively) agreed to go with him. And that's when he suddenly turned into a different person. According to her. In fairness she was 18 at the time, and a church going girl, I'm sure you were a lot more naive about the world when you were 18 compared to what you are today. And we've all seen Tyson in interviews, one minute he can be softly spoken, charming, fun, the next moment he can suddenly turn on a sixpence and become a raged animal. She also had vaginal damage, and Tyson's limousine driver describes seeing her come out looking shocked, upset, dazed, with her hair messed up. Tyson claimed in his statement that before she left she was actually dancing in the mirror and fixing up her hair, which is counter to the limo driver's claim her hair was messed up. Well either way, it is a shame from a sporting perspective we missed some of Tyson's peak years, but I don't know if I would be quite so quick to say "he didn't do it". We'll never know for sure, but c'mon, the guy was bad news, but I'm glad he seems to be mellowing today at least, and finding peace. Let's hope she has as well.
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Post by Reggie_Stration on Nov 12, 2017 14:02:27 GMT
I think these women, after they agreed to go to his hotel room, were just disappointed he decided to masturbate rather than have sex with them.
No, seriously, he didn't assault anyone, they were adults who were his fans, and he's admitted it and said sorry. It's not the crime of the century and he shouldn't be tarred with the same brush as the real sexual predators out there.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Nov 12, 2017 20:13:38 GMT
I think what you're asking is did he do anything criminal. From the way I read it, he did not.
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Post by poelzig on Nov 12, 2017 21:36:44 GMT
If the women agreed then why did Predator CK and his powerful manager and friends etc... all deny for over a decade that CK have ever jerked his little winky in front of any women? I remember seeing this story a few years ago when Roseanne Barr was condemning CK for causing several female comedians to leave his tour because he kept harassing them by jacking off in front of them and CK REFUSED TO STOP after they asked him to repeatedly.
At the time I gave Predator CK the benefit of the doubt because I loath Barr and CK's manager and friends and CK himself said it was bullshit. NOW faced with his upcoming movie and numerous TV shows being cancelled he suddenly admits to it but now claims the women wanted to see him jerk off. Then why lie about it for so long? Why have so many people lie for him? Why did the women have a problem with it years ago but now CK claims they wanted to see his little dong? Have the victims confirmed his version of the story? I haven't seen it if they did but who knows?
It's odd that so many people are dropping to their knees and kissing his ass because he admitted what he did only because HE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO ADMIT IT. Even though he admitted it, the "apology" was more about CK doing an obvious bullshit "I'm so so so so so so so so sorry. Look at how awesome I am for admitting it even though I'm still denying I really did anything wrong." Meanwhile his fans exclaim "WOW!!! He admitted it sort of. He's better than Jesus."
I like his comedy but he's a douchebag and he's still claiming the accusers were lying so I think it's ridiculous so many people are sucking his nuts. How much of the quickness to forgive him is because he's yet another rabid liberal that turns out to be a hypocrite? Hollywood is being revealed to be full of sick predators and hypocrites that have looked the other way and enabled the predators. It's obvious they are desperate when they are trying to spin Predator CK's self serving "apology" into a feel good triumph.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 13, 2017 0:09:42 GMT
Yes. He himself called it an abuse of power. Plus whatever happened between him and Tig Notaro seems iffy.
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Post by hehatesshe on Nov 13, 2017 3:11:56 GMT
"Tyson claimed in his statement that before she left she was actually dancing in the mirror and fixing up her hair, which is counter to the limo driver's claim her hair was messed up."
If you've ever had good sex with a woman, you would know that the only thing that will make their hair not looked messed up is a shower, a hair dryer, brushes, and other doo-dads that were, I'm guessing, not available to her in Mike Tyson's room.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 9:32:45 GMT
"Tyson claimed in his statement that before she left she was actually dancing in the mirror and fixing up her hair, which is counter to the limo driver's claim her hair was messed up." If you've ever had good sex with a woman, you would know that the only thing that will make their hair not looked messed up is a shower, a hair dryer, brushes, and other doo-dads that were, I'm guessing, not available to her in Mike Tyson's room. Well I guess it depends on the hair. As a beauty pageant contestant though, you would think she would have a brush with her. And I would think the kind of hotel Mike Tyson was staying in would have a hair dryer... and a shower.
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Post by WullieFort on Nov 13, 2017 15:54:25 GMT
The man's a fucking pervert !
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 13, 2017 17:25:09 GMT
If the situation was reversed, say if Amy Schumer would proceed to masturbate in her room in front of guys who may or may not have wanted her to but were otherwise fans of her, what would the reaction be? I'm guessing it would be a lot different.
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