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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 24, 2017 14:44:20 GMT
TFA poisoned everything that will ever come after it. That's just a weird thing to say considering how open-ended the main character arcs still are. It retconned the ending of Jedi into irrelevance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 14:45:16 GMT
Ha, sure. It's because of the kids. I believe you when you say you hated TFA. I think you're full of shit when you say you're not interested in watching TLJ. You want to know what Luke discovered on his self-exile as much as the rest of us. At the very least, you care about where the OT character threads will end up. As for "nothing can save the franchise...".....c'mon man. The movie gushed out more profit than The Lonely Mountain. SW merchandise is ubiquitous. A new novel is published every third month. TFA did the exact opposite of killing the franchise. No, I really give no shits about this new direction. It's uninteresting and doesn't fit the OT characters. Saving the franchise's bottom line is different than saving it creatively. It was fine creatively. What we've got is now a less interesting franchise that makes money because it sells nostalgia and made the Force into magic. Okay, well I'll be sure to bookmark this conversation. If I see you back on this board making comments indicating that you've seen the movie, is it fair game to link back to where you gave no shits? All in good fun...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 14:48:02 GMT
That's just a weird thing to say considering how open-ended the main character arcs still are. It retconned the ending of Jedi into irrelevance. Which part are you referring to? The fact that the Alliance's victory was short-lived or the idea that balance wasn't actually brought to the Force?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 15:01:03 GMT
Luke wanting to kill Kylo (which would explain what Mark Hamill didn't agree with), Reylo happening because they're Force soulmates or some sht, the Millenium Falcon getting destroyed, Rey being confirmed as more powerful than Luke, Yoda, etc. I hope to R'hllor they aren't true. This is almost certainly going to happen. They're going to retcon the "prophesy" to mean that REY is more significant than literally anyone ever, including and especially Anakin. Luke wanting to kill Kylo doesn't bother me. Actually sounds interesting. Reylo being Force soulmates would suck. Connected in "other ways" through fate and the Force is to be expected and will be cool dependent on how they do it. MF getting destroyed is okay by me. All good things must come to an end. Rey being confirmed as more powerful than Luke, Yoda, Palps, Anakin or Plagueis would be complete bullshit and would possibly turn me off to the franchise permanently. But I'm open-minded, so it would depend on how it evolved. There are ways of even doing this that would be acceptable. But if she's "just a really powerful Force user" who is more powerful than anyone before her, I'd join the anti-Disney Wars movement.
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Post by ryboto on Jul 24, 2017 16:32:04 GMT
No, I really give no shits about this new direction. It's uninteresting and doesn't fit the OT characters. Saving the franchise's bottom line is different than saving it creatively. It was fine creatively. What we've got is now a less interesting franchise that makes money because it sells nostalgia and made the Force into magic. Okay, well I'll be sure to bookmark this conversation. If I see you back on this board making comments indicating that you've seen the movie, is it fair game to link back to where you gave no shits? All in good fun... I will not watch this, nor will I watch the trailer(still haven't seen it). I made the same promise to myself about Star Trek Beyond, and I'm actually more of a Trek fan. My old license plate was NX74205 for shits sake! I didn't see the Beyond trailer until after it was out on DVD and only unintentionally on Youtube when it autoplayed as an ad. I sat through that film, and while I liked what Pegg set out to do, it failed for me in the last 3rd. I need to edit that sentence...I don't give shits about the direction, but I still give a shit about how terrible TFA is, and how it didn't live up to the hype or expectations it tried to set.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 18:23:42 GMT
Luke wanting to kill Kylo (which would explain what Mark Hamill didn't agree with), Captain not sure how he feels about this. But they will probably have Luke go about it in a totally out of character way that just makes him look like an over the top Disney bad guy. Like Jafar from Disney's Aladdin. "Yeah let's go around destroying and rebuilding the galaxy together while everyone is blissfully hypnotized by our burning passion for each other and could care less about the negative consequences! Or how absurd it is in the first place!" Thanks Disney... for changing the Force into the cosmic supernatural equivalent of Match.com! (sigh) This'n doesn't surprise Tarpals since Abrams is producer. This'n sounds like hims idea. Why? Because he's already done this before. He killed off Han Solo. And he destroyed the planet Vulcan in Star Trek along with most of the Vulcan race. It's another one of Abrams pathetic writing gimmicks like his mystery box. Kill off an icon for instant story sensationalism. Works great for a one-time boost in viewership and audience buzz. Hook 'em with shock value! Let's save the trouble of filling out the story with quality writing. Distract them by killing off an icon. Kill Solo in episode 7. Kill the Millennium Falcon in episode 8. Chewbacca will die in episode 9, mark Tarpals words! Of course she will be. A Disney warrior princess should always be the most powerful character in the story. And there can never be a moment in the story where that could be questioned! Especially when she's using her powers. Now let's all sit back and watch the unchallenged journey of Rey's MarySue awesomeness! Sadly, all of this is probably true because it sounds like Abrams and Kennedy. And it especially sounds so Disney! Exsqueeze me... but Captain just threw up in his mouth a little bit after the thought of this possibly being true.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 25, 2017 1:21:09 GMT
It retconned the ending of Jedi into irrelevance. Which part are you referring to? The fact that the Alliance's victory was short-lived or the idea that balance wasn't actually brought to the Force? Both of those, plus every one of the OT heroes is in some way pathetic, deficient, and a failure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 13:55:27 GMT
Which part are you referring to? The fact that the Alliance's victory was short-lived or the idea that balance wasn't actually brought to the Force? Both of those, plus every one of the OT heroes is in some way pathetic, deficient, and a failure. Well that's not true. We don't even know what happened to Lando!
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Post by jsnification on Jul 26, 2017 12:37:16 GMT
STAR WARS The Last Jedi MAJOR SPOILER Pics! Part 73
New MAJOR SPOILER pics of toys, closer character pics and more!
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Jul 26, 2017 13:41:53 GMT
STAR WARS The Last Jedi MAJOR SPOILER Pics! Part 73 New MAJOR SPOILER pics of toys, closer character pics and more! looks awesome , thanks
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Post by jsnification on Jul 27, 2017 23:34:27 GMT
check this out!
STAR WARS The Last Jedi SUPER SPOILER Pics! Part 74
New SUPER SPOILER pics of characters!
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Post by rateater on Jul 27, 2017 23:41:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 13:29:08 GMT
Haven't seen that one. Almost looks as though that neck must be in a state of regeneration . Thank you for sharing.
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Post by jsnification on Jul 31, 2017 14:17:42 GMT
STAR WARS The Last Jedi SPOILER TOY Pics! Part 75
New SPOILER TOY pics of new TLJ action figures!
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Post by jsnification on Aug 1, 2017 17:31:02 GMT
STAR WARS The Last Jedi More SPOILER TOY Pics! Part 76
More new SPOILER TOY pics of new TLJ action figures!
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Post by pete8680 on Aug 2, 2017 21:47:16 GMT
Force link. Sounds kinky.
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Post by jsnification on Aug 2, 2017 23:25:56 GMT
STAR WARS The Last Jedi Trailer Remix 2!
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Post by jsnification on Aug 5, 2017 22:36:26 GMT
STAR WARS The Last Jedi More SPOILER TOY Pics! Part 77
More new SPOILER TOY pics of new TLJ action figures!
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Post by jsnification on Aug 8, 2017 16:10:22 GMT
STAR WARS The Last Jedi More SPOILER TOY Pics! Part 78
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Post by jsnification on Aug 10, 2017 8:01:46 GMT
STAR WARS The Last Jedi MAJOR SPOILER Pics! Part 79
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