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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 8, 2017 6:01:36 GMT
The only thing worse than a troll is a troll pretending he's not a troll. I think the troll accusation gets misrepresented and misused often. These threads are not fansites and all opinions can be brought up and in this specific case, the OP's dislike for musicals. A genuine internet troll is somebody who is not offering any valid input into the discussion and often incite unwarranted trouble. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 8, 2017 13:21:52 GMT
Except in this case, the term "troll" applies because the poster is not merely offering his opinion but insulting the people who would disagree with him.
That is what makes the OP a troll. He is inciting "unwarranted trouble."
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 9, 2017 23:00:49 GMT
Except in this case, the term "troll" applies because the poster is not merely offering his opinion but insulting the people who would disagree with him. That is what makes the OP a troll. He is inciting "unwarranted trouble." I'd say he has more on an issue with the notion of musicals themselves and is just load shedding onto those that would want to watch them. His insults are being generalized into an abstract of "f<>king imbeciles" who watch them, not any one person\poster in particular. He does contradict himself when he says... "If you are going to make a musical, please make sure it's not moronic garbage for lowlife imbeciles"...so is he then saying that it's ok to make a musical as long as it's not moronic?  He does sound a tad confused, but I don't see him as a genuine troll. Perhaps he is only semi-trolling and he may have been drunk when he made his post.  I would have to read through some of the other posts he has made to see his attitude and manner of communication. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 10, 2017 14:12:20 GMT
Ahh, but even if his other posts are fine, that doesn't exclude him from trolling on this one. A troll need not be clocked in 24/7. Let's not make excuses for trollish behavior.
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Post by sagenesse on Jun 30, 2017 5:43:14 GMT
I use to say the same thing. Then I grew up, joking but seriously I was watching a movie based on Judy Garland's life and it showed clips from Meet Me In St. Louis. I had songs from that movie stuck in my head for weeks. I broke down and decided to give Meet Me In St. Louis a try. I loved it! I then started watching other well known and loved musicals. The breaking out in song is simply a way to carry the story forward. I now own a number of musicals such as The Music Man & Hairspray which are two family favorites.
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Post by Flynn on Jul 21, 2017 4:10:34 GMT
I use to say the same thing. Then I grew up, joking but seriously I was watching a movie based on Judy Garland's life and it showed clips from Meet Me In St. Louis. I had songs from that movie stuck in my head for weeks. I broke down and decided to give Meet Me In St. Louis a try. I loved it! I then started watching other well known and loved musicals. The breaking out in song is simply a way to carry the story forward. I now own a number of musicals such as The Music Man & Hairspray which are two family favorites. Adding to what you said... There is a podcast called Scriptnotes hosted by screenwriters John August and Craig Mazin, and in it, they often equate songs in musicals to third-person narration in novels, that songs are a way of informing the viewer what a character is thinking. |
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Post by mszanadu on Jul 23, 2017 20:37:32 GMT
My Problem With Musicals is I certainly DON'T have a problem with this wonderful & uplifting lost old school form of art - IMPO    . |
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Post by geode on Aug 7, 2017 6:17:47 GMT
I don't wish to offend the people that like this trash, but I call a spade a spade. I hate musicals because they are astoundingly stupid. It makes no sense that people just burst into song all the time and how multiple people all know the words to a song that they are supposed to be making up on the spot. I know musicals are not made by or designed for bright people. Folks that enjoy musicals and dumb airheads and hipsters with colourful jackets and cowboy boots. But just because this crap is designed for an audience of fucking imbeciles that doesn't mean it's okay to put zero thought into it. If you are going to make a musical, please make sure it's not moronic garbage for lowlife imbeciles. Thanks. I had the same problem with most musicals until I was about 19 and saw "Westside Story." I suddenly realized that most musicals were really a form of fantasy film, and required a willing suspension of disbelief. Up to that time I could more willingly accept those that were about putting on a show, where the songs were logical in the plotting. |
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Post by mszanadu on Aug 7, 2017 18:16:58 GMT
It's like the old saying - " Art imitates life "  . I so dig that  ( and so want to believe it too )   . So for me that's where one of my first love of musicals came from as well . |
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Post by mszanadu on Aug 7, 2017 18:41:47 GMT
I don't wish to offend the people that like this trash, but I call a spade a spade. I hate musicals because they are astoundingly stupid. It makes no sense that people just burst into song all the time and how multiple people all know the words to a song that they are supposed to be making up on the spot. I know musicals are not made by or designed for bright people. Folks that enjoy musicals and dumb airheads and hipsters with colourful jackets and cowboy boots. But just because this crap is designed for an audience of fucking imbeciles that doesn't mean it's okay to put zero thought into it. If you are going to make a musical, please make sure it's not moronic garbage for lowlife imbeciles. Thanks. I had the same problem with most musicals until I was about 19 and saw "Westside Story." I suddenly realized that most musicals were really a form of fantasy film, and required a willing suspension of disbelief. Up to that time I could more willingly accept those that were about putting on a show, where the songs were logical in the plotting. What was your favorite scene in the musical " Westside Story " geode ? There were a few of course but this one was mine . West Side Story - Cool (1961) HD |
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Post by Jayman on Aug 7, 2017 22:08:55 GMT
Well look at it this way, instead of playing out a scene with dialogue, they use song and dance to get that point across. I love west side story! I love every song in that movie.
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Post by mszanadu on Aug 8, 2017 1:25:33 GMT
Well look at it this way, instead of playing out a scene with dialogue, they use song and dance to get that point across. I love west side story! I love every song in that movie. IMPO ( old school here of course ) - It also showed that a man can dance and still be macho too . I totally agree here jayhn1111 Westside Story definitely had some excellent singing and quality dance numbers as well  . |
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Post by Jayman on Aug 8, 2017 1:31:10 GMT
Well look at it this way, instead of playing out a scene with dialogue, they use song and dance to get that point across. I love west side story! I love every song in that movie. IMPO ( old school here of course ) - It also showed that a man can dance and still be macho too . I totally agree here jayhn1111 Westside Story definitely had some excellent singing and quality dance numbers as well . Yeah I guess that it does  . I try to pick a favorite and I can't. Each one is great in their own way. West side story and grease are my two favorites. Though I prefer the broadway Grease soundtrack over the film. Is westside story your favorite? |
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Post by mszanadu on Aug 8, 2017 3:13:25 GMT
IMPO ( old school here of course ) - It also showed that a man can dance and still be macho too . I totally agree here jayhn1111 Westside Story definitely had some excellent singing and quality dance numbers as well . Yeah I guess that it does . I try to pick a favorite and I can't. Each one is great in their own way. West side story and grease are my two favorites. Though I prefer the broadway Grease soundtrack over the film. Is westside story your favorite? Westside Story and Grease are definitely in my top 10 of favorite musicals ( we already know which # 1. favorite is mine here ) . Growing up musicals were always my first favorite of programs as well . It always seems to pick us up when we are feeling down too . |
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Post by Jayman on Aug 8, 2017 4:45:39 GMT
Yeah I guess that it does . I try to pick a favorite and I can't. Each one is great in their own way. West side story and grease are my two favorites. Though I prefer the broadway Grease soundtrack over the film. Is westside story your favorite? Westside Story and Grease are definitely in my top 10 of favorite musicals ( we already know which # 1. favorite is mine here ) . Growing up musicals were always my first favorite of programs as well . It always seems to pick us up when we are feeling down too . thats so true mszanadu. Who needs all that dark and gloomy stuff they push now in movies and tv shows. I'd rather watch Fred Astaire do some kickass dance numbers and then get the girl in the end |
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Post by geode on Aug 8, 2017 14:24:17 GMT
I had the same problem with most musicals until I was about 19 and saw "Westside Story." I suddenly realized that most musicals were really a form of fantasy film, and required a willing suspension of disbelief. Up to that time I could more willingly accept those that were about putting on a show, where the songs were logical in the plotting. What was your favorite scene in the musical " Westside Story " geode ? There were a few of course but this one was mine . West Side Story - Cool (1961) HD "America" is the standout among many good numbers. |
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Post by mszanadu on Aug 8, 2017 15:34:57 GMT
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Post by Peter B. Parker on Aug 21, 2017 18:01:07 GMT
Way back when I was in high school, my friend said to me "musical logic is like my girlfriend, I don't have a girlfriend". I'm sure you can tell what that means: musicals don't have any logic
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Post by mszanadu on Aug 21, 2017 18:19:36 GMT
Way back when I was in high school, my friend said to me "musical logic is like my girlfriend, I don't have a girlfriend". I'm sure you can tell what that means: musicals don't have any logic Of course it's like my old school saying - Too much logic can kill all the fun & joy out of what life has to offer we need a reasonable balance between the three . |
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. I try to pick a favorite and I can't. Each one is great in their own way. West side story and grease are my two favorites. Though I prefer the broadway Grease soundtrack over the film. Is westside story your favorite?