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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 12, 2017 9:15:34 GMT
And good riddance I say.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 12, 2017 10:48:13 GMT
Hopefully I will live long enough to see the good people left in Hollywood jump off the sinking ship and devote their talents to independent films. Maybe I could even get my film made. It would only cost about four million bucks; a little bit more than Marlon Brando got for playing Superman's father.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 12:13:35 GMT
Just so long as you ONLY focus on the abusers in Hollywood. And nowhere else.
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Post by mikef6 on Nov 12, 2017 15:24:18 GMT
There is no such thing as "Hollywood." It is a catch-all word used (mainly) by conservatives to make a lot of unlikely generalizations. "Washington" is another.
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Post by cupcakes on Nov 12, 2017 16:23:23 GMT
tpfkar Vipers everywhere getting beat back into their holes, anyway. Evil
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Post by politicidal on Nov 13, 2017 0:05:39 GMT
Heh, yeah know.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Nov 13, 2017 0:25:56 GMT
A multi-billion dollar industry is hardly my idea of "crumbling". If it does crumble, it will be because of increased competition from the China, not some sex scandals that have been going on for decades. As somebody else already pointed out, "Hollywood" isn't one large cohesive unit, it's made up of several competing companies, producers, directors, etc. People act like it's the Borg or something.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Nov 13, 2017 20:14:22 GMT
I know a LOT of southern fellers who are eager to play pretend that rich men using their power to assault others is a "Hollywood" problem, but I have to tip my hat to you for typing it from Alabama. How Roy Moore doing, anyway?
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 13, 2017 20:20:07 GMT
There is no such thing as "Hollywood." It is a catch-all word used (mainly) by conservatives to make a lot of unlikely generalizations. "Washington" is another. That is true. Hollywood isn't a company or a properly defined entity. Its reference is just vague. While the films that are made in America used to be really good in 40s and 50s, they are generally not so good now. But then same can be said about films made in Japan or Sweden or Italy. There are no Mizoguchi or Ozu or Kurosawa now just as there are no Bergman or Bunuel or John Huston now.
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Post by scienceisgod on Nov 14, 2017 0:05:18 GMT
I know a LOT of southern fellers who are eager to play pretend that rich men using their power to assault others is a "Hollywood" problem, but I have to tip my hat to you for typing it from Alabama. How Roy Moore doing, anyway? “We care about the less fortunate. Vote for us” ~The Left
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Nov 14, 2017 0:23:16 GMT
I know a LOT of southern fellers who are eager to play pretend that rich men using their power to assault others is a "Hollywood" problem, but I have to tip my hat to you for typing it from Alabama. How Roy Moore doing, anyway? “We care about the less fortunate. Vote for us” ~The Left You finally posted something true. Congratulations
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Nov 14, 2017 6:31:02 GMT
And good riddance I say. You voting for Roy Moore, ErJen?
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Post by progressiveelement on Nov 14, 2017 9:38:49 GMT
Hopefully I will live long enough to see the good people left in Hollywood jump off the sinking ship and devote their talents to independent films. Maybe I could even get my film made. It would only cost about four million bucks; a little bit more than Marlon Brando got for playing Superman's father. Some of the greats have been indies. Night of the Living Dead The Texas Chain Saw Massacre Halloween The Evil Dead 👍
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Nov 14, 2017 10:36:10 GMT
There is no such thing as "Hollywood." It is a catch-all word used (mainly) by conservatives to make a lot of unlikely generalizations. "Washington" is another. There are no Mizoguchi or Ozu or Kurosawa now just as there are no Bergman or Bunuel or John Huston now. I think there are quite a few who are either close to that level or have the potential to be. To throw out some names: Hou Hsiao-hsien, Bela Tarr, David Lynch, Hayao Miyazaki, Terence Davies, Terence Malick, Coen Brothers, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Nuri Bilge Ceylan, and Hirokazu Koreeda.
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 14, 2017 11:36:23 GMT
There are no Mizoguchi or Ozu or Kurosawa now just as there are no Bergman or Bunuel or John Huston now. I think there are quite a few who are either close to that level or have the potential to be. To throw out some names: Hou Hsiao-hsien, Bela Tarr, David Lynch, Hayao Miyazaki, Terence Davies, Terence Malick, Coen Brothers, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Nuri Bilge Ceylan, and Hirokazu Koreeda. To be honest I have not seen too many post 80 movies so I might have exaggerated in my post. If there are directors close to ones I listed then it's good to hear. I perhaps need to be done away with my picky and choosy nature.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Nov 14, 2017 12:25:45 GMT
I think there are quite a few who are either close to that level or have the potential to be. To throw out some names: Hou Hsiao-hsien, Bela Tarr, David Lynch, Hayao Miyazaki, Terence Davies, Terence Malick, Coen Brothers, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Nuri Bilge Ceylan, and Hirokazu Koreeda. To be honest I have not seen too many post 80 movies so I might have exaggerated in my post. If there are directors close to ones I listed then it's good to hear. I perhaps need to be done away with my picky and choosy nature. Here are some post-80s masterpieces: Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire (David Lynch) A City of Sadness and The Puppetmaster (Hou Hsiao-hsien) Grave of the Fireflies and Princess Kaguya (Isao Takahata) Yi Yi and A Brighter Summer Day (Edward Yang) Three Colors Trilogy and Dekalog (Krzysztof Kieslowski) The Travelling Players and Landscape in the Mist (Theo Angelopoulos) Satantango and Werckmeister Harmonies (Bela Tarr) Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone) Distant Voices, Still Lives and The Long Day Closes (Terence Davies) Princess Mononoke and My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki) Amadeus (Milos Forman) Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood) Life On a String (Chen Kaige) What Time is it There? ( Tsai Ming-Liang) Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola) Breaking the Waves and Dancer in the Dark (Lars Von Trier) No Country for Old Men and The Big Lebowski (Coen Brothers) Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders) The Fountain (Darren Aronofsky) Maborosi and After Life (Hirokazu Koreeda) Distant and Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (Nuri Bilge Ceylan) The Thin Red Line and Tree of Life (Terence Malick) Tropical Malady and Uncle Boonmee (Apichatpong Weerasethakul) Close-Up ( Abbas Kiarostami) Synechdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman) Fucking Åmål (Show Me Love) (Lukas Moodysson) That's also close to the order I'd recommend them in. If you aren't impressed by any of the top 10 or so then you might as well give up on modern film.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Nov 14, 2017 14:33:16 GMT
To be honest I have not seen too many post 80 movies so I might have exaggerated in my post. If there are directors close to ones I listed then it's good to hear. I perhaps need to be done away with my picky and choosy nature. Here are some post-80s masterpieces: Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire (David Lynch) A City of Sadness and The Puppetmaster (Hou Hsiao-hsien) Grave of the Fireflies and Princess Kaguya (Isao Takahata) Yi Yi and A Brighter Summer Day (Edward Yang) Three Colors Trilogy and Dekalog (Krzysztof Kieslowski) The Travelling Players and Landscape in the Mist (Theo Angelopoulos) Satantango and Werckmeister Harmonies (Bela Tarr) Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone) Distant Voices, Still Lives and The Long Day Closes (Terence Davies) Princess Mononoke and My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki) Amadeus (Milos Forman) Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood) Life On a String (Chen Kaige) What Time is it There? ( Tsai Ming-Liang) Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola) Breaking the Waves and Dancer in the Dark (Lars Von Trier) No Country for Old Men and The Big Lebowski (Coen Brothers) Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders) The Fountain (Darren Aronofsky) Maborosi and After Life (Hirokazu Koreeda) Distant and Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (Nuri Bilge Ceylan) The Thin Red Line and Tree of Life (Terence Malick) Tropical Malady and Uncle Boonmee (Apichatpong Weerasethakul) Close-Up ( Abbas Kiarostami) Synechdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman) Fucking Åmål (Show Me Love) (Lukas Moodysson) That's also close to the order I'd recommend them in. If you aren't impressed by any of the top 10 or so then you might as well give up on modern film. Thank you for that list; the only one I have seen is Amadeus and it is one of my all-time favorites. So now I have a list to guide me!
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Nov 14, 2017 15:17:44 GMT
Here are some post-80s masterpieces: Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire (David Lynch) A City of Sadness and The Puppetmaster (Hou Hsiao-hsien) Grave of the Fireflies and Princess Kaguya (Isao Takahata) Yi Yi and A Brighter Summer Day (Edward Yang) Three Colors Trilogy and Dekalog (Krzysztof Kieslowski) The Travelling Players and Landscape in the Mist (Theo Angelopoulos) Satantango and Werckmeister Harmonies (Bela Tarr) Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone) Distant Voices, Still Lives and The Long Day Closes (Terence Davies) Princess Mononoke and My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki) Amadeus (Milos Forman) Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood) Life On a String (Chen Kaige) What Time is it There? ( Tsai Ming-Liang) Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola) Breaking the Waves and Dancer in the Dark (Lars Von Trier) No Country for Old Men and The Big Lebowski (Coen Brothers) Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders) The Fountain (Darren Aronofsky) Maborosi and After Life (Hirokazu Koreeda) Distant and Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (Nuri Bilge Ceylan) The Thin Red Line and Tree of Life (Terence Malick) Tropical Malady and Uncle Boonmee (Apichatpong Weerasethakul) Close-Up ( Abbas Kiarostami) Synechdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman) Fucking Åmål (Show Me Love) (Lukas Moodysson) That's also close to the order I'd recommend them in. If you aren't impressed by any of the top 10 or so then you might as well give up on modern film. Thank you for that list; the only one I have seen is Amadeus and it is one of my all-time favorites. So now I have a list to guide me! If you see any of them and feel like discussing them, let me know. I reviewed a few of them (including a long, in-depth analysis of A Brighter Summer Day).
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 14, 2017 20:57:02 GMT
To be honest I have not seen too many post 80 movies so I might have exaggerated in my post. If there are directors close to ones I listed then it's good to hear. I perhaps need to be done away with my picky and choosy nature. Here are some post-80s masterpieces: Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire (David Lynch) A City of Sadness and The Puppetmaster (Hou Hsiao-hsien) Grave of the Fireflies and Princess Kaguya (Isao Takahata) Yi Yi and A Brighter Summer Day (Edward Yang) Three Colors Trilogy and Dekalog (Krzysztof Kieslowski) The Travelling Players and Landscape in the Mist (Theo Angelopoulos) Satantango and Werckmeister Harmonies (Bela Tarr) Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone) Distant Voices, Still Lives and The Long Day Closes (Terence Davies) Princess Mononoke and My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki) Amadeus (Milos Forman) Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood) Life On a String (Chen Kaige) What Time is it There? ( Tsai Ming-Liang) Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola) Breaking the Waves and Dancer in the Dark (Lars Von Trier) No Country for Old Men and The Big Lebowski (Coen Brothers) Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders) The Fountain (Darren Aronofsky) Maborosi and After Life (Hirokazu Koreeda) Distant and Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (Nuri Bilge Ceylan) The Thin Red Line and Tree of Life (Terence Malick) Tropical Malady and Uncle Boonmee (Apichatpong Weerasethakul) Close-Up ( Abbas Kiarostami) Synechdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman) Fucking Åmål (Show Me Love) (Lukas Moodysson) That's also close to the order I'd recommend them in. If you aren't impressed by any of the top 10 or so then you might as well give up on modern film. Thanks Eva. I have seen the one i quoted in bold and I liked them. I am very much interested in Once Upon a Time in America and probably see that soon. I do also like to see non-English ones you mentioned.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Nov 15, 2017 0:32:04 GMT
Here are some post-80s masterpieces: Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire (David Lynch) A City of Sadness and The Puppetmaster (Hou Hsiao-hsien) Grave of the Fireflies and Princess Kaguya (Isao Takahata) Yi Yi and A Brighter Summer Day (Edward Yang) Three Colors Trilogy and Dekalog (Krzysztof Kieslowski) The Travelling Players and Landscape in the Mist (Theo Angelopoulos) Satantango and Werckmeister Harmonies (Bela Tarr) Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone) Distant Voices, Still Lives and The Long Day Closes (Terence Davies) Princess Mononoke and My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki) Amadeus (Milos Forman) Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood) Life On a String (Chen Kaige) What Time is it There? ( Tsai Ming-Liang) Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola) Breaking the Waves and Dancer in the Dark (Lars Von Trier) No Country for Old Men and The Big Lebowski (Coen Brothers) Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders) The Fountain (Darren Aronofsky) Maborosi and After Life (Hirokazu Koreeda) Distant and Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (Nuri Bilge Ceylan) The Thin Red Line and Tree of Life (Terence Malick) Tropical Malady and Uncle Boonmee (Apichatpong Weerasethakul) Close-Up ( Abbas Kiarostami) Synechdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman) Fucking Åmål (Show Me Love) (Lukas Moodysson) That's also close to the order I'd recommend them in. If you aren't impressed by any of the top 10 or so then you might as well give up on modern film. Thanks Eva. I have seen the one i quoted in bold and I liked them. I am very much interested in Once Upon a Time in America and probably see that soon. I do also like to see non-English ones you mentioned. Once Upon a Time in America is one of the most hypnotic films I've ever seen. More than anything it's one of those films where you just sink into its aesthetic groove and stay there for 3 3/4 hours. It's one of those rare films that FEELS like you're living a memory.
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