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Post by spooner5020 on Nov 14, 2017 6:17:11 GMT
Since when is a 76% bad?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 14, 2017 6:46:59 GMT
That's been a common problem with all the Marvel Netflix shows (except maybe Defenders because it was half as long) in that they drag at some point. None of them have really warranted being 13 episodes long but they don't have much of a choice to be. The reviewers who are praising the show are saying profoundly good things about it. A TV show about the Punisher wouldn't have accomplished its goal if it clicked with everyone. The Punisher should polarize people. Punishment is what lies in the space between justice and revenge. "Honestly, the worst aspect of “The Punisher” is that there’s not too much to say about it. It’s competently made, decently written, but never pushes any boundaries or challenges any big ideas. For a show which seemed, given the timing of its launch, to be so controversial, its most controversial element is its lack of controversy."
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Post by poelzig on Nov 14, 2017 6:52:28 GMT
...Oh, alright... (giggle) Whoa. You're telling me len len is making the mcu guys cry? I'm really beginning to like that scamp.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 6:55:09 GMT
scabab, poelzig has another post that needs deleting.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 14, 2017 7:50:59 GMT
Feel big posting this news? I thought you were unbiased. I know, I know, you claim you saw Iron Fist, and you thought it wasn't bad. I am unbiased. Those aren't my reviews (since I haven't seen any episodes yet). I'm just posting a link to an article about the reviews for The Punisher for anyone who might not have seen the article. This is a message board about MCU movies and shows so what's wrong with just posting a link to an article about reviews for an upcoming MCU show?
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 14, 2017 7:54:23 GMT
DC-FAN, seriously, you're not helping! lol Don't give them ammo, or sink to their level.
I'm not sinking to their level. This is a message board about MCU movies and shows so I'm just posting a link to an article (which isn't written by me) about reviews for an upcoming MCU show for anyone who might not have seen the article and might be interesting in reading it. I myself have made no comment about the show (since I haven't seen any episodes yet) or about the article.
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Post by darkpast on Nov 14, 2017 8:01:20 GMT
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 14, 2017 10:02:43 GMT
The reviewers who are praising the show are saying profoundly good things about it. A TV show about the Punisher wouldn't have accomplished its goal if it clicked with everyone. The Punisher should polarize people. Punishment is what lies in the space between justice and revenge. "Honestly, the worst aspect of “The Punisher” is that there’s not too much to say about it. It’s competently made, decently written, but never pushes any boundaries or challenges any big ideas. For a show which seemed, given the timing of its launch, to be so controversial, its most controversial element is its lack of controversy."I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. I wanted this show to push violence to the max level. I want this series to explore the dark side of humanity, to go where were most comic book shows or even films won't go.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 14, 2017 10:19:29 GMT
"Honestly, the worst aspect of “The Punisher” is that there’s not too much to say about it. It’s competently made, decently written, but never pushes any boundaries or challenges any big ideas. For a show which seemed, given the timing of its launch, to be so controversial, its most controversial element is its lack of controversy." I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. I wanted this show to push violence to the max level. I want this series to explore the dark side of humanity, to go where were most comic book shows or even films won't go. never expect too much from humanity or it's output and you cannot be disappointed too much. Worst thing is your week end will ruined bc this and JL sucked.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 14, 2017 16:26:28 GMT
Feel big posting this news? I thought you were unbiased. I know, I know, you claim you saw Iron Fist, and you thought it wasn't bad. I am unbiased. No you're not.
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 14, 2017 17:40:34 GMT
The reviews actually make me want to watch it more. The 'bad' reviews make very little sense. Some say it is too violent which is a good thing to me. The positive reviews say it is the best Marvel Netflix show to date and amazingly acted. I have a feeling it will be great.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 14, 2017 18:38:03 GMT
Yeah the "too violent" complaints is weird to me. Violence is part of the character. I know that's a hard sell, especially in these times, but anyone familiar with Frank Castle knows that he's a violent dude.
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 14, 2017 20:11:49 GMT
I have pretty much read every review and besides two that their only complaint is it's too violent, which is silly. The two reviews basically say the story is terrible. They also state that Daredevil was terrible so take that for what it's worth. Many of the positive reviews are beyond glowing with many saying it is the best Marvel Netflix show, which would be amazing since Daredevil and Jessica Jones are so good.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 14, 2017 20:54:37 GMT
I have pretty much read every review and besides two that their only complaint is it's too violent, which is silly. The two reviews basically say the story is terrible. They also state that Daredevil was terrible so take that for what it's worth. Many of the positive reviews are beyond glowing with many saying it is the best Marvel Netflix show, which would be amazing since Daredevil and Jessica Jones are so good. Did you read these on RT too? They have plenty other complaints than violence. - The Punisher is a drag, and while it's not the major disappointment Iron Fist was, it's a misfire for Marvel. - While Castle possesses special skills aplenty, the subplots prove tired, and for stretches the biggest danger seems to be that -- its taciturn leading man notwithstanding -- that the show is going to talk somebody to death. - It's impossible to overstate how leaden and badly structured The Punisher is. - There may hopefully be a time when Frank's actions don't instantly recall horrors from our world, but that version of his story will still need to be told much more compellingly than this. - Reading The Punisher didn't make me violent, but watching The Punisher sure made me bored. - The Punisher has moments of excitement, moments of bracing violence and a well-cast star at the center. It's also tedious for long stretches, and when it comes to plot details, astoundingly forgettable. The gun stuff is just an unpleasant capper. - As a narrative about veterans trying to find their place in the world, The Punisher has something to say. But it could have been so much shorter, and its placement in the Marvel universe feels tangential at best.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 14, 2017 22:16:15 GMT
I just want to chime in for those saying that "too violent" is a silly complaint.
I disagree.
The violence turns me off quite a bit, and is actually the reason I refuse to watch it.
Professional critics ( and more open minded viewers than myself ) don't really have a choice other than to watch it, first, and then decide whether or not it is "too violent" for their tastes.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 14, 2017 22:33:33 GMT
Reviewers are picky about gun toting vigilantes these days. It doesn't help that there's a mass shooting every week. It's not the show's fault but it's awkward and probably on the back of their minds.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 14, 2017 22:44:37 GMT
Reviewers are picky about gun toting vigilantes these days. It doesn't help that there's a mass shooting every week. It's not the show's fault but it's awkward and probably on the back of their minds. Exactly. I hate "gunplay overkill" It's the only thing I hated about TDKR ( and, believe it or not Cars 2! )
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Post by raiderjedi on Nov 14, 2017 23:20:00 GMT
3 out of every 4 being positive is "split"? And here i thought split meant around 50/50. You DC fanatics will be rejoicing to the heavens if JL has this kind of "split".
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 14, 2017 23:20:23 GMT
Reviewers are picky about gun toting vigilantes these days. It doesn't help that there's a mass shooting every week. It's not the show's fault but it's awkward and probably on the back of their minds. Do you really think DC-Fan or Tristan understand things like that? I understand that you understand nothing, weirdraptor. Did you even read the reviews before whining? The core criticism is about completely different things than violence: Yeah, they really sound offended bc of the violence. Try again with reading.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 14, 2017 23:29:13 GMT
3 out of every 4 being positive is "split"? And here i thought split meant around 50/50. You DC fanatics will be rejoicing to the heavens if JL has this kind of "split". the wording is obviously from the article he linked. Another heavy case of impaired reading comprehension.
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