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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 15, 2017 13:08:52 GMT
It's obviously not doing too well, we can kind of start owning up to that. There’s currently no indication it’s doing as low as 36%. That's not what I said. I said it's clearly not doing very well. Whether that's 36 or 59 it's below acceptable right?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 15, 2017 13:10:35 GMT
There’s currently no indication it’s doing as low as 36%. That's not what I said. I said it's clearly not doing very well. Whether that's 30 or 50 it's below acceptable right? I didn’t say you said that. I was referring to the OP’s claim when I replied to you.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 15, 2017 13:13:01 GMT
That's not what I said. I said it's clearly not doing very well. Whether that's 30 or 50 it's below acceptable right? I didn’t say you said that. I was referring to the OP’s claim when I replied to you. That's fine, but I'm not really discussing the specifics. Just in general it's clearly nowhere near good enough. I honestly don't know what the final number will be. Before today I was thinking 70ish, but these are pretty bad reviews. I'm more or less thinking 50 at this point, and that might be the top end.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 15, 2017 13:17:57 GMT
I didn’t say you said that. I was referring to the OP’s claim when I replied to you. That's fine, but I'm not really discussing the specifics. Just in general it's clearly nowhere near good enough. I honestly don't know what the final number will be. Before today I was thinking 70ish, but these are pretty bad reviews. I'm more or less thinking 50 at this point, and that might be the top end. If it does end up around 50, that would be more mixed than truly bad.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 13:19:20 GMT
I didn’t say you said that. I was referring to the OP’s claim when I replied to you. That's fine, but I'm not really discussing the specifics. Just in general it's clearly nowhere near good enough. I honestly don't know what the final number will be. Before today I was thinking 70ish, but these are pretty bad reviews. I'm more or less thinking 50 at this point, and that might be the top end. I'm actually thinking this movie sounds worse than BvS. At least that was an attempt at something that failed. Justice League just sounds like a complete mess.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 15, 2017 13:19:33 GMT
That's fine, but I'm not really discussing the specifics. Just in general it's clearly nowhere near good enough. I honestly don't know what the final number will be. Before today I was thinking 70ish, but these are pretty bad reviews. I'm more or less thinking 50 at this point, and that might be the top end. If it does end up around 50, that would be more mixed than truly bad. No, that's bad. It ain't the absolute worst I agree, but it's still extremely bad. It's way way way way way below what it needs to be. 50 might be ok for a minor solo character or a suicide squad, but for the main film in a franchise, that is completely and utterly UNacceptable.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 15, 2017 13:23:56 GMT
It's a little early to declare anything. Remember, Ant-Man started off around 66% and ended up around 80%. JL's score might go up.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Nov 15, 2017 13:25:29 GMT
What? First you ignore what I actually said, then you make up a number. You realize it's the critic who makes the final decision if the movie is fresh, not RT. I'm not making up anything you desperate fanboy. Yes, you are. There is no RT score. You invented one. You made it up. To deny that is denying water is wet.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 15, 2017 13:29:40 GMT
I'm not making up anything you desperate fanboy. Yes, you are. There is no RT score. You invented one. You made it up. To deny that is denying water is wet. He's predicting it based on Metacritic. Fair assumption to make at this point.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Nov 15, 2017 13:36:29 GMT
Yes, you are. There is no RT score. You invented one. You made it up. To deny that is denying water is wet. He's predicting it based on Metacritic. Fair assumption to make at this point. It's actually comparable to Man of Steel, which sits at 55 percent. But nootice he never says that is his guess or prediction. He makes it sound like it's a fact.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 15, 2017 13:38:45 GMT
He's predicting it based on Metacritic. Fair assumption to make at this point. It's actually comparable to Man of Steel, which sits at 55 percent. But nootice he never says that is his guess or prediction. He makes it sound like it's a fact. Well, I can only say what I think because I can't read his mind. I THINK that this is a fair assumption to make even if he's jumping the gun a little. As for MOS...that was back before audiences knew how much worse things were going to get with BvS and Suicide Squad. Sad thing is, I think if they released MOS now it would do even worse. It's not really fair, but the negativity against DC does lead to a critical bias. Critics go in thinking "You made me hopeful before and burned me one time too often".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 14:42:34 GMT
He's predicting it based on Metacritic. Fair assumption to make at this point. It's actually comparable to Man of Steel, which sits at 55 percent. But nootice he never says that is his guess or prediction. He makes it sound like it's a fact. It isn't a "guess." When I made the initial post I had just quickly counted all the reviews above 60%. I didn't take into account the 5 reviews which could go either way. So the range of potential RT scores at this stage come between 28% and 48%. That is a FACT. The scores by the side of the reviews aren't going to change from site to site. It is time to face the truth, fanboy. The reviews thus far are at best unsatisfactory.
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Post by primeone on Nov 15, 2017 15:41:19 GMT
Lol I like how I’m in your thoughts. You’re forgetting that there are people out there who still like the movie and enjoyed it. I’m sure even more people will when the movie is out.
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Post by scabab on Nov 15, 2017 15:45:53 GMT
If it does end up around 50, that would be more mixed than truly bad. No, that's bad. It ain't the absolute worst I agree, but it's still extremely bad. It's way way way way way below what it needs to be. 50 might be ok for a minor solo character or a suicide squad, but for the main film in a franchise, that is completely and utterly UNacceptable. Stop baiting people ok?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 15, 2017 18:45:28 GMT
No, that's bad. It ain't the absolute worst I agree, but it's still extremely bad. It's way way way way way below what it needs to be. 50 might be ok for a minor solo character or a suicide squad, but for the main film in a franchise, that is completely and utterly UNacceptable. Stop baiting people ok? But that's just an honest assessment. I would say the exact same thing about Infinity war if it gets a 50 because it's true. 50 would be unacceptable.
Can I not say where my level of acceptability is without it being considered baiting?
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Post by scabab on Nov 15, 2017 18:56:21 GMT
But that's just an honest assessment. I would say the exact same thing about Infinity war if it gets a 50 because it's true. 50 would be unacceptable.
Can I not say where my level of acceptability is without it being considered baiting?
Nah you're wording it in a very passive aggressive way to get a rise out of people. "I thought it was going to get this score but it's only got this score? Isn't that really bad everyone?" Is kinda what you're doing. First you say the score isn't doing too well, then it's pretty bad and now it's extremely bad. The score has currently risen to 55. That's not good, it's not bad, it's average.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 15, 2017 19:03:50 GMT
But that's just an honest assessment. I would say the exact same thing about Infinity war if it gets a 50 because it's true. 50 would be unacceptable.
Can I not say where my level of acceptability is without it being considered baiting?
Nah you're wording it in a very passive aggressive way to get a rise out of people. "I thought it was going to get this score but it's only got this score? Isn't that really bad everyone?" Is kinda what you're doing. First you say the score isn't doing too well, then it's pretty bad and now it's extremely bad. The score has currently risen to 55. That's not good, it's not bad, it's average. I think you're reading too much into it. I'm just stating how I feel about it. I did think it was going to get a 70, and now I do think it's going to get a 50. That's 100% truthful to how I've perceived it. Why is that something I can't say?
55 is not what I would call average.
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