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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 20:21:42 GMT
Thoughts on Rocky IV? I think it's tremendous That being said - I think this is hysterical:
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 15, 2017 20:26:33 GMT
I tried dragon flags at the gym last week, that shit is tough. The movie itself is awesomely silly.
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Nov 15, 2017 20:26:53 GMT
I liked all the Rocky movies. The original is definitely a classic, but I loved Rocky II, even though it generally gets dumped on by most.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 15, 2017 20:32:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 20:40:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 20:42:36 GMT
I tried dragon flags at the gym last week, that shit is tough. The movie itself is awesomely silly. i cried when apollo died
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 15, 2017 20:47:30 GMT
I tried dragon flags at the gym last week, that shit is tough. The movie itself is awesomely silly. i cried when apollo died I cried when Rocky ended the Cold War by defeating the Russian War Machine despite being bludgeoned into a state of brain damage....which brain damage magically disappears after a pep talk by Mickey from beyond the grave in V and is never even so much as a fleeting issue during the fight with Mason "The Line" Dixon. As Socks said, the original is a classic. An all-time great movie. The rest are all good fun except for 5 which is awful.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 15, 2017 20:53:02 GMT
i cried when apollo died I cried when Rocky ended the Cold War by defeating the Russian War Machine despite being bludgeoned into a state of brain damage....which brain damage magically disappears after a pep talk by Mickey from beyond the grave in V and is never even so much as a fleeting issue during the fight with Mason "The Line" Dixon. As Socks said, the original is a classic. An all-time great movie. The rest are all good fun except for 5 which is awful. I laughed at everything that came out of Dolph's mouth. I know it wasn't supposed to be Olivier doing Hamlet, but gaaaaaa. "I must break you"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 20:57:54 GMT
I tried dragon flags at the gym last week, that shit is tough. The movie itself is awesomely silly. i cried when apollo died Hands down the most shocking thing I've ever seen in a boxing ring. I blame the referee really, should have stopped it just before the end of the 1st round. DEFINITELY should have stopped it in the 2nd round. And I think it is the sign of a broken society that the guy in your opening video can trivialise his death. RIP Apollo
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 21:03:14 GMT
My favourite bit was when the Russians realised America was better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 21:10:33 GMT
i cried when apollo died I cried when Rocky ended the Cold War by defeating the Russian War Machine despite being bludgeoned into a state of brain damage....which brain damage magically disappears after a pep talk by Mickey from beyond the grave in V and is never even so much as a fleeting issue during the fight with Mason "The Line" Dixon. As Socks said, the original is a classic. An all-time great movie. The rest are all good fun except for 5 which is awful. how about in Rocky III when Mick died - no emotions? what are you a robot with no heart?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 21:17:32 GMT
I cried when Rocky ended the Cold War by defeating the Russian War Machine despite being bludgeoned into a state of brain damage....which brain damage magically disappears after a pep talk by Mickey from beyond the grave in V and is never even so much as a fleeting issue during the fight with Mason "The Line" Dixon. As Socks said, the original is a classic. An all-time great movie. The rest are all good fun except for 5 which is awful. I laughed at everything that came out of Dolph's mouth. I know it wasn't supposed to be Olivier doing Hamlet, but gaaaaaa. "I must break you"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 21:19:54 GMT
i cried when apollo died Hands down the most shocking thing I've ever seen in a boxing ring. I blame the referee really, should have stopped it just before the end of the 1st round. DEFINITELY should have stopped it in the 2nd round. And I think it is the sign of a broken society that the guy in your opening video can trivialise his death. RIP Apollo tragic when it happens in real life. you're a boxing guru. i'm sure you remember that Boom Boom Mancini fight - forget if the poor fella died in the ring or afterwards - but it was still tragic.....
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Nov 15, 2017 21:23:30 GMT
i cried when apollo died Hands down the most shocking thing I've ever seen in a boxing ring. I blame the referee really, should have stopped it just before the end of the 1st round. DEFINITELY should have stopped it in the 2nd round. And I think it is the sign of a broken society that the guy in your opening video can trivialise his death. RIP Apollo Hard to know where the ultimate responsibility lies over this tragedy - the ref? Rocky not throwing the towel in? Apollo TELLING him (suicide?) not to throw the towel in? Or even the shocking lack of due diligence when it came to signing off on this fight - Drago arrives as the amateur boxing champion and with his punching power off the charts he must have left a string of severe injuries / other fatalities behind him back in the Soviet Union! Not checked out or even mentioned in passing by anyone in the Apollo camp...
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 15, 2017 21:31:55 GMT
Hands down the most shocking thing I've ever seen in a boxing ring. I blame the referee really, should have stopped it just before the end of the 1st round. DEFINITELY should have stopped it in the 2nd round. And I think it is the sign of a broken society that the guy in your opening video can trivialise his death. RIP Apollo Hard to know where the ultimate responsibility lies over this tragedy - the ref? Rocky not throwing the towel in? Apollo TELLING him (suicide?) not to throw the towel in? Or even the shocking lack of due diligence when it came to signing off on this fight - Drago arrives as the amateur boxing champion and with his punching power off the charts he must have left a string of severe injuries / other fatalities behind him back in the Soviet Union! Not checked out or even mentioned in passing by anyone in the Apollo camp... The second Apollo takes a shot to the head that would kill a non-movie person, ref has to call it right then and there. But also, the Cinemasins video raises a good point - where the hell are the medical personnel? Normally, there are doctors and medics ringside who can pop into the ring at a moment's notice, even back in the 80s. But here, Apollo lays on the floor convulsing and the only people there are reporters and Rocky. Looks like the promoter would have some tough questions to answer. As for Rocky throwing in the towel, just shows that deep down Rocky is a shitty friend. It's like when you're at the bar and you demand that your friend turn over his keys and take a cab home and he insists that he's fine to drive but you dig your heels in. He thinks you're an asshole but if you ultimately win that fight, then you're a true friend. Same thing here. I'm sure at the end of the day Apollo would have preferred to have his pride only slightly damaged as opposed to being dead even though at the time he insisted on getting killed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 21:33:51 GMT
Hands down the most shocking thing I've ever seen in a boxing ring. I blame the referee really, should have stopped it just before the end of the 1st round. DEFINITELY should have stopped it in the 2nd round. And I think it is the sign of a broken society that the guy in your opening video can trivialise his death. RIP Apollo Hard to know where the ultimate responsibility lies over this tragedy - the ref? Rocky not throwing the towel in? Apollo TELLING him (suicide?) not to throw the towel in? Or even the shocking lack of due diligence when it came to signing off on this fight - Drago arrives as the amateur boxing champion and with his punching power off the charts he must have left a string of severe injuries / other fatalities behind him back in the Soviet Union! Not checked out or even mentioned in passing by anyone in the Apollo camp... Thank you for laying this out there. Universities should devote a class on this topic alone. Beautifully stated. It's a topic I've been torn over for years. I go back and forth. At times I want to blame Rock for not throwing the towel - but if Apollo lived and lost via TKO would their friendship ever be the same and Rocky knew what it was like to be a 'warrior' and not want to give up. I blame Drago at times - after all it was an exhibition - however he is a young pup in a foreign land rattled by the previous minutes extravaganza wanting to make a name for himself and his home country. Do you blame Apollo himself as his wife is in tears for wanting to continue? Great stuff
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 21:44:57 GMT
Hard to know where the ultimate responsibility lies over this tragedy - the ref? Rocky not throwing the towel in? Apollo TELLING him (suicide?) not to throw the towel in? Or even the shocking lack of due diligence when it came to signing off on this fight - Drago arrives as the amateur boxing champion and with his punching power off the charts he must have left a string of severe injuries / other fatalities behind him back in the Soviet Union! Not checked out or even mentioned in passing by anyone in the Apollo camp... The second Apollo takes a shot to the head that would kill a non-movie person, ref has to call it right then and there. But also, the Cinemasins video raises a good point - where the hell are the medical personnel? Normally, there are doctors and medics ringside who can pop into the ring at a moment's notice, even back in the 80s. But here, Apollo lays on the floor convulsing and the only people there are reporters and Rocky. Looks like the promoter would have some tough questions to answer. As for Rocky throwing in the towel, just shows that deep down Rocky is a shitty friend. It's like when you're at the bar and you demand that your friend turn over his keys and take a cab home and he insists that he's fine to drive but you dig your heels in. He thinks you're an asshole but if you ultimately win that fight, then you're a true friend. Same thing here. I'm sure at the end of the day Apollo would have preferred to have his pride only slightly damaged as opposed to being dead even though at the time he insisted on getting killed. but it was supposed to be an exhibition greg brady vs. danny partridge:
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