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Post by merh on Nov 18, 2017 15:16:02 GMT
So I'm watching Civil War right this second and Vision says during his equation that it had been 8 years since Tony Stark had announced himself as Iron Man. Which would fit in real time (2008-2016). Of course this movie has Spider-man in it and Spider-man Homecoming is set not longer after, just a few months I think. In that movie though it's established that it's been 8 years since The Avengers events. Meaning the Avengers would also be set around 2008. Which then of course would have to mean that Iron Man, Iron Man 2 and The Avengers all happened in the same year. That doesn't seem like it should be possible. I posted an article a month ago which gives a good explanation of how the MCU timeline is shattered to pieces: MCU's Broken Timeline.
No MCU is going to come up with a new timeline that'll retconn most of the previous movies. Ragnarok already retconned every movie that Hulk was previously in by making Hulk able to from complete sentences and have extended conversations when he never said more than 10 words in any of in previous movies.
Ragnarok points out Hulk has been in control for 2 yrs meaning his speech has progressed to more of a toddler level
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 18, 2017 15:51:09 GMT
So I'm watching Civil War right this second and Vision says during his equation that it had been 8 years since Tony Stark had announced himself as Iron Man. Which would fit in real time (2008-2016). Of course this movie has Spider-man in it and Spider-man Homecoming is set not longer after, just a few months I think. In that movie though it's established that it's been 8 years since The Avengers events. Meaning the Avengers would also be set around 2008. Which then of course would have to mean that Iron Man, Iron Man 2 and The Avengers all happened in the same year. That doesn't seem like it should be possible. I posted an article a month ago which gives a good explanation of how the MCU timeline is shattered to pieces: MCU's Broken Timeline.
No MCU is going to come up with a new timeline that'll retconn most of the previous movies. Ragnarok already retconned every movie that Hulk was previously in by making Hulk able to from complete sentences and have extended conversations when he never said more than 10 words in any of in previous movies.
So now character development is a bad thing?
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 18, 2017 18:43:20 GMT
I posted an article a month ago which gives a good explanation of how the MCU timeline is shattered to pieces: MCU's Broken Timeline.
No MCU is going to come up with a new timeline that'll retconn most of the previous movies. Ragnarok already retconned every movie that Hulk was previously in by making Hulk able to from complete sentences and have extended conversations when he never said more than 10 words in any of in previous movies.
Ragnarok points out Hulk has been in control for 2 yrs meaning his speech has progressed to more of a toddler level The retconn comes from the fact that not only was Hulk able to from complete sentences and have extended conversations but also when Thor sees Hulk for the 1st time in 2 years, Thor (who has never had an extended conversation with Hulk for as long as he's known Hulk) starts speaking to Hulk like he expects Hulk to understand everything he's saying and when Hulk starts forming complete sentences, Thor (who has never heard Hulk speak more than 10 words in any of their previous meetings) doesn't even ask how that's possible and just accepts it like it was normal.
That's where the retconn comes from. Even Thor (who hadn't seen Hulk in 2 years and has never had an extended conversation with Hulk) seems to have forgotten that Hulk never spoke more than 10 words in any of their previous meetings.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 18, 2017 18:59:51 GMT
The retconn comes from the fact that not only was Hulk able to from complete sentences and have extended conversations It's called character development. He's encountered beings like Hulk who can speak just fine. To him this is nothing new. Stop asking to be spoonfed.
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Post by merh on Nov 19, 2017 1:20:31 GMT
Ragnarok points out Hulk has been in control for 2 yrs meaning his speech has progressed to more of a toddler level The retconn comes from the fact that not only was Hulk able to from complete sentences and have extended conversations but also when Thor sees Hulk for the 1st time in 2 years, Thor (who has never had an extended conversation with Hulk for as long as he's known Hulk) starts speaking to Hulk like he expects Hulk to understand everything he's saying and when Hulk starts forming complete sentences, Thor (who has never heard Hulk speak more than 10 words in any of their previous meetings) doesn't even ask how that's possible and just accepts it like it was normal.
That's where the retconn comes from. Even Thor (who hadn't seen Hulk in 2 years and has never had an extended conversation with Hulk) seems to have forgotten that Hulk never spoke more than 10 words in any of their previous meetings.
In the Crow when Eric gets shot, Albrecht says he thought he was invulnerable. Eric says he was, now he's not. Easy No one should have been able to destroy Mjolnir. Hera did. Hulk speaking is nothing compared to that. Dude, you need to comprehend stuff happens. In the blink of an eye things can change
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Post by merh on Nov 19, 2017 1:23:16 GMT
So I'm watching Civil War right this second and Vision says during his equation that it had been 8 years since Tony Stark had announced himself as Iron Man. Which would fit in real time (2008-2016). Of course this movie has Spider-man in it and Spider-man Homecoming is set not longer after, just a few months I think. In that movie though it's established that it's been 8 years since The Avengers events. Meaning the Avengers would also be set around 2008. Which then of course would have to mean that Iron Man, Iron Man 2 and The Avengers all happened in the same year. That doesn't seem like it should be possible. Things like this don't bother me. I was far more upset the world's greatest detective fell for Lex Luthor's tricks. He shou of never have fallen for it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 1:26:42 GMT
So I'm watching Civil War right this second and Vision says during his equation that it had been 8 years since Tony Stark had announced himself as Iron Man. Which would fit in real time (2008-2016). Of course this movie has Spider-man in it and Spider-man Homecoming is set not longer after, just a few months I think. In that movie though it's established that it's been 8 years since The Avengers events. Meaning the Avengers would also be set around 2008. Which then of course would have to mean that Iron Man, Iron Man 2 and The Avengers all happened in the same year. That doesn't seem like it should be possible. Things like this don't bother me. I was far more upset the world's greatest detective fell for Lex Luthor's tricks. He shou of never have fallen for it. And not just any Lex Lothor. A Lex Luthor who can't even APPEAR civilized for more than 5 seconds.
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Post by poelzig on Nov 19, 2017 1:36:14 GMT
So I'm watching Civil War right this second and Vision says during his equation that it had been 8 years since Tony Stark had announced himself as Iron Man. Which would fit in real time (2008-2016). Of course this movie has Spider-man in it and Spider-man Homecoming is set not longer after, just a few months I think. In that movie though it's established that it's been 8 years since The Avengers events. Meaning the Avengers would also be set around 2008. Which then of course would have to mean that Iron Man, Iron Man 2 and The Avengers all happened in the same year. That doesn't seem like it should be possible. Things like this don't bother me. I was far more upset the world's greatest detective fell for Lex Luthor's tricks. He shou of never have fallen for it. So inconsistencies in the mcu are insignificant but lesser inconsistencies in a DC movie devastate you? Got it. I must say I have NEVER seen a woman in her 60's that knows so much about even the newest comic books and who likes to argue constantly on message boards. To be honest you are the only female senior citizen I've ever known who still reads comic books. I bet your great grandkids are crazy about you. You are the fun great gram gram.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 19, 2017 2:22:27 GMT
The retconn comes from the fact that not only was Hulk able to from complete sentences and have extended conversations but also when Thor sees Hulk for the 1st time in 2 years, Thor (who has never had an extended conversation with Hulk for as long as he's known Hulk) starts speaking to Hulk like he expects Hulk to understand everything he's saying and when Hulk starts forming complete sentences, Thor (who has never heard Hulk speak more than 10 words in any of their previous meetings) doesn't even ask how that's possible and just accepts it like it was normal.
That's where the retconn comes from. Even Thor (who hadn't seen Hulk in 2 years and has never had an extended conversation with Hulk) seems to have forgotten that Hulk never spoke more than 10 words in any of their previous meetings.
In the Crow when Eric gets shot, Albrecht says he thought he was invulnerable. Eric says he was, now he's not. I've never seen The Crow so I can't comment on what happens in that movie. Moreover, what happens in that movie has nothing to do with MCU. MCU established in all of Hulk's previous movies that he's incapable of forming complete sentences or having extended conversations with anyone. Then Thor (after not seeing Hulk for 2 years) suddenly starts speaking to Hulk like he expects Hulk to understand everything he's saying and Thor seems to have completely forgotten that for as long as he's known Hulk he's never known Hulk to form a complete sentence or have an extended conversation with anyone. That's what the retconn was. No one should have been able to destroy Mjolnir. Hera did. Hera was Zeus' wife. Hela destroyed the hammer, but she's a goddess so it's not surprising that she would be powerful enough to destroy the hammer. More importantly, Thor never met Hela so that's why Thor was under the mistaken belief that no one could destroy his hammer. It's similar to how Columbus thought he had sailed to India and not America because Europeans back then didn't even know America existed; likewise, Thor never knew a goddess as powerful as Hela existed. But Thor did know Hulk. And for as long as Thor knew Hulk, Thor had never known Hulk to form complete sentences or say more than 10 words in any of their previous meetings. Yet Thor seems to completely forget that, like it never happened. Basically, it was retconned.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 19, 2017 2:24:37 GMT
Things like this don't bother me. I was far more upset the world's greatest detective fell for Lex Luthor's tricks. He shou of never have fallen for it. So inconsistencies in the mcu are insignificant but lesser inconsistencies in a DC movie devastate you? Got it. That's typical of the hypocrisy of MCU fans.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 19, 2017 4:20:33 GMT
MCU established in all of Hulk's previous movies that he's incapable of forming complete sentences or having extended conversations with anyone. Then Thor (after not seeing Hulk for 2 years) suddenly starts speaking to Hulk like he expects Hulk to understand everything he's saying and Thor seems to have completely forgotten that for as long as he's known Hulk he's never known Hulk to form a complete sentence or have an extended conversation with anyone. It's called character development.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 4:41:39 GMT
So inconsistencies in the mcu are insignificant but lesser inconsistencies in a DC movie devastate you? Got it. That's typical of the hypocrisy of MCU fans. scabab justanaveragejoe
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 19, 2017 4:50:11 GMT
For some reason, I can't edit or delete posts. Scabab.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 4:57:43 GMT
For some reason, I can't edit or delete posts. Scabab. What were Admin's exact words to your requesting to become a Mod?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 5:09:30 GMT
What were Admin's exact words to your requesting to become a Mod? Scabab: "I told the Admin he could make you a mod so that's probably gonna happen now." Admin: "Ok. You're now a mod for those boards. Thanks and have fun." Either he was yanking your chain or he forgot to save the change he made. You can only ask him about it.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 19, 2017 5:25:33 GMT
The timeline is in tatters.
A reboot is desperately needed if the faltering MCU can possibly compete with the triumphant, glorious DCEU in the future.
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Post by scabab on Nov 19, 2017 8:15:19 GMT
Still watching Civil War (I have to watch things here and there, I get busy) and I found another thing.
Tony Stark refers to the Iron Man 3 events as happening a few years ago (a few generally being 3 which also fits real time).
Iron Man 3 takes places 6 months after The Avengers from what I've read.
Which would mean The Avengers took place around 3 and a half years before Civil War. Yet there's an 8 year gap between Avengers and Spider-man Homecoming which would make Spider-man Homecoming 4 and half years after Civil War which it obviously isn't.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 19, 2017 8:49:08 GMT
Still watching Civil War (I have to watch things here and there, I get busy) and I found another thing. Tony Stark refers to the Iron Man 3 events as happening a few years ago (a few generally being 3 which also fits real time). Iron Man 3 takes places 6 months after The Avengers from what I've read. Which would mean The Avengers took place around 3 and a half years before Civil War. Yet there's an 8 year gap between Avengers and Spider-man Homecoming which would make Spider-man Homecoming 4 and half years after Civil War which it obviously isn't. Wow! The MCU timeline is really convoluted and confusing!
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 19, 2017 13:01:26 GMT
The timeline is in tatters. A reboot is desperately needed if the faltering MCU can possibly compete with the triumphant, glorious DCEU in the future. The DCEU already has worse gaffs. They said that the Mother Box was dormant until the day Superman died...despite the videos of Cyborg showing it as active when it turned him INTO Cyborg well before Superman died.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 19, 2017 18:07:03 GMT
The timeline is in tatters. A reboot is desperately needed if the faltering MCU can possibly compete with the triumphant, glorious DCEU in the future. The DCEU [ has ] already has worse gaffs. Yeah, like the writing, directing, and acting.
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