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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 11:07:43 GMT
One of the best parts of Thor 3. Thor had to use his brain to "win" and it wasn't really a win. Hela wasn't beaten by any last minute "burst of strength" that is so common in adventure movies. Thor suffered great loss in the movie. He lost Odin, his hammer, his freaking eye, and his homeworld. Thor using his brain was one of my favorite things about it. He outsmarted Valkyrie and Loki as well. It just proves how weak Thor is. True heroes don't destroy. True heroes save. Instead of digging deep and trying to find the courage and strength from within, Thor (and the writers) basically chose the lazy and cowards' way out by turning the Asgardians into refugees without a home. bahahahahaha what a load of crap. Different situations call for different tactics. Try harder DCfan.... |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 10, 2017 14:21:17 GMT
So an MCU fan asked why Justice League is better than Thor: Ragnarok. It's pretty simple. In Justice League, Superman was a real bad-ass. Meanwhile, in Ragnarok, Thor was a real sissy. Thor screamed like a little baby when a 94-year-old man was going to cut his hair. Thor also screamed like a sissy when the Grandmaster fried the guy tied up in the chair next to Thor. Ragnarok made the God of Thunder look like a complete sissy. I agree. Thor:Ragnarok was garbage. I was clapping at the end, not because I thought it was good but because it finally ended. A talking Hulk, an undeveloped script, and uninteresting villain are just some of the problems with this film. It's amazing how this film was certified fresh on RT. I enjoyed the first Thor but this one was bad. 2/10. I agree. Justice League was garbage. I was clapping at the end, not because I thought it was good but because it finally ended. A boring Batman, an undeveloped script, and uninteresting villain are just some of the problems with this film. It's amazing how this film was projectile vomited onto certified cinema screens. I hated the other DC films but this one was bad. 1/10. |
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Post by sostie on Dec 12, 2017 10:01:31 GMT
JL was borderline tedious. Of the newbies Flash was alright and Aquaman and Cyborg a waste of space. Steppenwolf was an abysmal villain.
The opening credits/montage was really poor when you consider Snyder had previously given us one of the greatest with Watchmen.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Dec 12, 2017 19:33:15 GMT
Hey DC-Fan, how does it feel about being totally wrong on Wonder Woman getting any Golden Globe love? Guess that cancels out Oscar chances, yes? LOL.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 13, 2017 5:19:32 GMT
Guess that cancels out Oscar chances, yes? LOL. No, it doesn't. The Golden Globes nominates only 5 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama so Wonder Woman was probably in the top 10 but didn't make the top 5. But the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture nomination in the 2008 award year so a top 10, even if not top 5, would be enough for a Best Picture nomination for Wonder Woman. |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Dec 13, 2017 7:30:29 GMT
Guess that cancels out Oscar chances, yes? LOL. No, it doesn't. The Golden Globes nominates only 5 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama so Wonder Woman was probably in the top 10 but didn't make the top 5. But the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture nomination in the 2008 award year so a top 10, even if not top 5, would be enough for a Best Picture nomination for Wonder Woman. Yeah, keep telling yourself that. If it didn't get any love at the GG it won't find too much luck at the Academy Awards, at this point it's only wishful thinking if its technical aspects receive recognition and that'll be it - Nothing for directing, writing, acting, or picture overall. |
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Post by sostie on Dec 13, 2017 9:22:45 GMT
Guess that cancels out Oscar chances, yes? LOL. No, it doesn't. The Golden Globes nominates only 5 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama so Wonder Woman was probably in the top 10 but didn't make the top 5. But the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture nomination in the 2008 award year so a top 10, even if not top 5, would be enough for a Best Picture nomination for Wonder Woman. Wait a second. Before the Golden Globe nominations were announced you argued that WW had a strong chance of an Oscar nomination because almost all GG films nominated end up being nominated for an Oscar (so sure were you of a GG nomination). Now you argue it will get a nomination because the Oscar has up to 10 entries in the category, despite you pointing out how rare it is for a non GG nominated film subsequently getting an Oscar nomination. And of course all the time ignoring the fact that it doesn't deserve and Oscar. |
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Post by damngumby on Dec 13, 2017 13:42:33 GMT
Guess that cancels out Oscar chances, yes? LOL. No, it doesn't. The Golden Globes nominates only 5 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama so Wonder Woman was probably in the top 10 but didn't make the top 5. But the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture nomination in the 2008 award year so a top 10, even if not top 5, would be enough for a Best Picture nomination for Wonder Woman. We might be looking at another historic achievement by Wonder Woman! The first film to be nominated for a Best Picture Academy Award after failing to be nominated in any category of the Golden Globes. Not one single nomination. Zero. Hey, it could happen!  |
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 14, 2017 3:50:04 GMT
No, it doesn't. The Golden Globes nominates only 5 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama so Wonder Woman was probably in the top 10 but didn't make the top 5. But the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture nomination in the 2008 award year so a top 10, even if not top 5, would be enough for a Best Picture nomination for Wonder Woman. Now you argue it will get a nomination because the Oscar has up to 10 entries in the category, despite you pointing out how rare it is for a non GG nominated film subsequently getting an Oscar nomination. You obviously don't know how to read because no one said it's rare for a non-GG nominated movie to be nominated for an Oscar. Just look at the numbers. Since 2008, the Golden Globes nominated 46 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama. 41 of those movies were nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. In that same time period, the Academy has nominated 77 movies for a Best Picture Oscar.
So it isn't rare. You keep forgetting (or at least intentionally pretending to ignore) the fact that the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture nomination in the 2008 award year. That's why there have been considerably more Best Picture Oscar nominees than there have been Best Motion Picture - Drama Golden Globe nominees since 2008.
Because the Academy nominates more movies than the Golden Globes do. And obviously, many of those extra movies that the Academy nominates weren't nominated by the Golden Globes because the Golden Globes only nominates 5 movies. So since 2008 it isn't impossible and isn't even rare for a movie to be nominated for a Best Picture Oscar without being nominated for a Best Motion Picture - Drama Golden Globe because The Dark Knight changed the rules for the Academy.
And I've explained this to you MCU fans many times. Of all the factors to consider, the 1 factor that gives Wonder Woman the best chance of any superhero movie ever, including The Dark Knight, for a Best Picture Oscar nomination is because the Academy changed the rules to nominate a maximum of 10 movies after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar in 2008.
So the Golden Globes nominated 5 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama. That means, even if the Academy nominates all 5 of those movies for Best Picture, the Academy still has 5 more slots that it can use to nominate Wonder Woman.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Dec 14, 2017 5:53:31 GMT
Now you argue it will get a nomination because the Oscar has up to 10 entries in the category, despite you pointing out how rare it is for a non GG nominated film subsequently getting an Oscar nomination. You obviously don't know how to read because no one said it's rare for a non-GG nominated movie to be nominated for an Oscar. Just look at the numbers. Since 2008, the Golden Globes nominated 46 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama. 41 of those movies were nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. In that same time period, the Academy has nominated 77 movies for a Best Picture Oscar.
So it isn't rare. You keep forgetting (or at least intentionally pretending to ignore) the fact that the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture nomination in the 2008 award year. That's why there have been considerably more Best Picture Oscar nominees than there have been Best Motion Picture - Drama Golden Globe nominees since 2008.
Because the Academy nominates more movies than the Golden Globes do. And obviously, many of those extra movies that the Academy nominates weren't nominated by the Golden Globes because the Golden Globes only nominates 5 movies. So since 2008 it isn't impossible and isn't even rare for a movie to be nominated for a Best Picture Oscar without being nominated for a Best Motion Picture - Drama Golden Globe because The Dark Knight changed the rules for the Academy.
And I've explained this to you MCU fans many times. Of all the factors to consider, the 1 factor that gives Wonder Woman the best chance of any superhero movie ever, including The Dark Knight, for a Best Picture Oscar nomination is because the Academy changed the rules to nominate a maximum of 10 movies after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar in 2008.
So the Golden Globes nominated 5 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama. That means, even if the Academy nominates all 5 of those movies for Best Picture, the Academy still has 5 more slots that it can use to nominate Wonder Woman.
Dude, you need a reality check. If the movie isn't getting any love from the Golden Globes, essentially a "pre-game" to the Oscars, its not gonna get any love there. Again, best shot it has for nominations are in the technical categories, but it has zero chance of getting anything major like Best Picture. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 14, 2017 13:09:16 GMT
Now you argue it will get a nomination because the Oscar has up to 10 entries in the category, despite you pointing out how rare it is for a non GG nominated film subsequently getting an Oscar nomination. You obviously don't know how to read because no one said it's rare for a non-GG nominated movie to be nominated for an Oscar. Just look at the numbers. Since 2008, the Golden Globes nominated 46 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama. 41 of those movies were nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. In that same time period, the Academy has nominated 77 movies for a Best Picture Oscar.
So it isn't rare. You keep forgetting (or at least intentionally pretending to ignore) the fact that the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture nomination in the 2008 award year. That's why there have been considerably more Best Picture Oscar nominees than there have been Best Motion Picture - Drama Golden Globe nominees since 2008.
Because the Academy nominates more movies than the Golden Globes do. And obviously, many of those extra movies that the Academy nominates weren't nominated by the Golden Globes because the Golden Globes only nominates 5 movies. So since 2008 it isn't impossible and isn't even rare for a movie to be nominated for a Best Picture Oscar without being nominated for a Best Motion Picture - Drama Golden Globe because The Dark Knight changed the rules for the Academy.
And I've explained this to you MCU fans many times. Of all the factors to consider, the 1 factor that gives Wonder Woman the best chance of any superhero movie ever, including The Dark Knight, for a Best Picture Oscar nomination is because the Academy changed the rules to nominate a maximum of 10 movies after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar in 2008.
So the Golden Globes nominated 5 movies for Best Motion Picture - Drama. That means, even if the Academy nominates all 5 of those movies for Best Picture, the Academy still has 5 more slots that it can use to nominate Wonder Woman.
Classic DC-Fan backtrack. Predictable as Hell. |
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Post by sostie on Dec 14, 2017 17:13:35 GMT
Now you argue it will get a nomination because the Oscar has up to 10 entries in the category, despite you pointing out how rare it is for a non GG nominated film subsequently getting an Oscar nomination. You obviously don't know how to read because no one said it's rare for a non-GG nominated movie to be nominated for an Oscar. Hey. Guess what. You are right. I mis-remembered and I was wrong. I will admit it (something I doubt we will ever see you be big enough to do) No I haven't. I in fact posted previously when you raised the subject that the increased number of Oscar nominations may be WW only hope for a possible nomination. You also conveniently chose to forget it in your post here where you emphasise how common it is for GG best drama films to be nominated for best film at Academy Awards..it not as an amazing stat if you recognise there are mor Oscar nomibations is it? Why focus on the Drama category only. If WW was likely to be nominated it would have been the the Comedy/Musical category. It seems to be where they put the less "high brow" contenders once the Drama category is full...I know WW is nether comedy or musical - but neither are The Martian, Get Out, Joy, American Hustle etc. WW didn't even make it into that category. In fact WW woman got ZERO Golden Globe nominations. Not looking too promising. But of course all of this really boils down to the fact that you were so convinced WW would be nominated for GG best drama film that an Oscar nomination would be an almost certainty. Well as you previously posted back in October... |
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Post by damngumby on Dec 14, 2017 18:37:22 GMT
In that same time period, the Academy has nominated 77 movies for a Best Picture Oscar. How many of those 77 movies got ZERO Golden Globe nominations, in any category? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 15, 2017 3:54:24 GMT
Why focus on the Drama category only. If WW was likely to be nominated it would have been the the Comedy/Musical category. GotG2, SMH, and Ragnarok are comedies. Wonder Woman isn't a comedy. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 15, 2017 4:00:16 GMT
GotG2, SMH, and Ragnarok are. Comic book movies, same as WW. Just not pretentious ones. Nor as cliche. Golden Globe Worthy. |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Dec 15, 2017 5:10:59 GMT
Why focus on the Drama category only. If WW was likely to be nominated it would have been the the Comedy/Musical category. GotG2, SMH, and Ragnarok are comedies. Wonder Woman isn't a comedy. They are no more a comedy than Star Wars, Star Trek, Indiana Jones, Lethal Weapon, or Die Hard. |
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Post by sostie on Dec 15, 2017 9:28:00 GMT
Why focus on the Drama category only. If WW was likely to be nominated it would have been the the Comedy/Musical category. GotG2, SMH, and Ragnarok are comedies. Wonder Woman isn't a comedy. And neither is The Martian, Get Out, Joy, American Hustle..I suggest you read posts before you reply to them. |
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Post by scabab on Dec 15, 2017 9:35:38 GMT
GotG2, SMH, and Ragnarok are comedies. Wonder Woman isn't a comedy. They are no more a comedy than Star Wars, Star Trek, Indiana Jones, Lethal Weapon, or Die Hard. Ehhhh I dunno about going that far. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 15, 2017 12:25:02 GMT
They are no more a comedy than Star Wars, Star Trek, Indiana Jones, Lethal Weapon, or Die Hard. Ehhhh I dunno about going that far. There's comedic elements in all those series. |
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Post by scabab on Dec 15, 2017 13:35:46 GMT
Ehhhh I dunno about going that far. There's comedic elements in all those series. Not to such an excessive extent though. They'd be more like Winter Solider or the first Iron Man perhaps. |
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