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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2017 11:11:13 GMT
Maybe we should keep this format for only a couple more weeks. After weeks 12 and 13, there will be only 4 weeks left and it will make more sense to switch to a playoff hunt mode rather than a winners and losers mode, because ultimately, all 12 playoff teams will be considered to be winners (by accomplishing the main goal of the regular season, that is, making the playoffs) while the other 20 will be losers. Speculation about winners and losers will be trumped by facts and no longer necessary. We can then engage in predictions about playoff scenarios, as they happen. Anyway, for now we'll continue, and if someone wants to consult the current state of affairs, here is the link to week 11: ------------- Winners:Vikings - Now ahead in their division by 3 games, looking all set for a deep playoff run. Falcons - With the Saints losing, the Falcons and the Panthers are right in the thick of things for the NFC South, and within the wild card slots anyway. Panthers - Now level with the Saints and controlling their own destiny, no longer depend on other teams to have a chance of winning the NFC South. If it happens I don't know but if it doesn't, should still make the playoffs. Patriots - the favorites to reach the Super Bowl from the AFC side. Eagles - continue to dazzle, best record in the NFL Saints - level with the Panthers now but will make the playoffs anyway if they don't win the division. Rams - great victory against the mighty Saints whom nobody could beat since the end of week 2. Steelers - They keep giving their fans a lot of heart attacks but keep winning. Losers:
Cowboys - This team completely fell apart without some of their important players due to a suspension and injuries. And hey, DC-Fan thought they would run the table... LOL. Ever since he said so they lost three in a row. Lions - That's enough. I'll no longer give the Lions the benefit of the doubt. They won't make the playoffs. Giants - Now at 2-9, remain pathetic. Bucs - At 4-7 it's all effectively over for them, and has been for a while already. Browns - the first draft pick is the only consolation. 0-11 now. Bengals - they beat the lowly Browns but don't inspire any confidence. Colts - Totally irrelevant at 3-8. Dolphins - continue to sink. Jets - Can't catch a break. Squandered their comeback with silly penalties. Bears - another mediocre 3-8 team. Niners - the worst of two worlds, they suck, but still, the Browns will likely get the first draft pick. Cardinals - yes, impressive upset against the Jaguars but I don't think they'll make the playoffs anyway. Broncos - how the mighty have fallen! Raiders - Won one but very mediocre and irregular Packers - even when they play well they still lose... Texans - very unexciting team with Savage at the helm Need more evidence:
Chargers - This is the team with a losing record that no team with a winning record will want to play against. Given that most of their losses were really close, by now I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they will be able to pull it off, if they play well in all remaining games. They are now only one game behind the sinking Chiefs. Redskins - The thing is, they are way behind in the playoff race but all four teams ahead of them are in decline and coming out of losses (Seattle, Green Bay, Detroit, and Dallas) so, who knows? Sure, then there is the small matter of the Panthers and Falcons actually currently occupying those slots but who knows? Maybe the Redskins might still make it. Banged up like they are, I doubt it, but this peculiar position at least warrants the NME list again, for another week. Titans - Could make a run for the division with the Jaguars' surprising loss. I still feel that the Jaguars are better than the Titans, but now both these teams will need more evidence. Jaguars - See above. I do think they'll make the playoffs, but I want more evidence just to see which one will win the division. Bills - Hanging in there after they cancelled the big blunder of the ill-fated Peterman start and brought back Taylor; they ware as of now within the wild card. Chiefs - On the verge of missing the playoffs if they continue to decline, but as of now still leading the division, by a hair. Seahawks - Hard to know what to make of them, could still make the playoffs although I find it unlikely
Ravens - Surprisingly they are in the playoff picture although they are very mediocre. ---------------- Feel free to agree, disagree, and/or post your own analyses. Our resident troll Granny (a.k.a. BritneyFox) will post her usual ridiculous garbage and we'll keep telling that fatty to go out and get some exercise.  Enjoy week 12! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 0:24:52 GMT
The thread was updated with the first two Thanksgiving games.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 8:50:02 GMT
The thread was updated with the last Thanksgiving game.
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 24, 2017 9:25:58 GMT
The Eagles, Saints and Vikings - something's gotta give here. Ain't no room for 3 great teams in one NFC title game. Barring injury, the NFC playoffs should be outstanding.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 9:52:29 GMT
The Eagles, Saints and Vikings - something's gotta give here. Ain't no room for 3 great teams in one NFC title game. Barring injury, the NFC playoffs should be outstanding. Indeed. NFC playoff race: Current division leaders: Eagles Vikings Saints Rams Wild Card teams as of now (if the season ended today): Panthers Falcons The Hunting Pack, in order, tie-breakers already considered: Seahawks Lions Packers Cowboys Redskins Cardinals Bucs Bears Giants Niners -------- I actually think that this playoff scenario won't change much. I think the odds that the 6 teams listed above as reaching the playoffs if the season ended today, actually making it, is way higher than the odds of any of the 10 remaining teams replacing them. The closest adversaries of the Panthers and Falcons all seem to be in trouble and in decline. Then, not only the Saints, Eagles, and Vikings would be fighting for only two slots in the NFC Championship Game, but at least the much improved Panthers might be in the mix as well. The Falcons and the Rams have been more irregular but could toughen up too. The NFC playoffs will probably be very good, somehow rescuing a season that has been unbalanced with too many bad teams and too many devastating injuries (and one devastating suspension). The AFC playoff scenario looks way less impressive: Current division leaders: Steelers Patriots Jaguars Chiefs Wild Card teams as of now (if the season ended today): Titans Ravens The Hunting Pack, in order, tie-breakers already considered: Bills Chargers Dolphins Jets Bengals Raiders Texans Colts Broncos Browns Unlike the NFC, it feels like only the Patriots and the Steelers are legit, and not even the next four would hold a candle to the NFC playoff teams. This is seen in the fact that the two current Wild Card teams in the AFC are definitely mediocre, the Chiefs are in steep decline, and the Jaguars didn't have a great strength of schedule. So it seems like either the Steelers or the Patriots (more likely the Patriots, in my opinion) will be sitting pretty, waiting for the last team standing in the wicked fight that the NFC playoffs should be. This might constitute a clear advantage for the AFC champions, because the battle for the NFC will be a lot more bruising. |
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Post by granny on Nov 24, 2017 10:30:45 GMT
It's called a homeless shelter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 10:54:45 GMT
It's called a homeless shelter. Go out and get some exercise, fatty. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 24, 2017 16:31:30 GMT
Do you remember when the Cowboys were going to run the table and win the NFC East? If the Eagles beat the Bears Sunday, the division race is already over in week 12. Nuts.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 24, 2017 17:58:07 GMT
Do you remember when the Cowboys were going to run the table and win the NFC East? If the Eagles beat the Bears Sunday, the division race is already over in week 12. Nuts. Since that claim was made ... Cowboys 0 - 3 Patriots 3 - 0 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 23:20:13 GMT
Do you remember when the Cowboys were going to run the table and win the NFC East? If the Eagles beat the Bears Sunday, the division race is already over in week 12. Nuts. They were, only in the opinion of DC-Fan. Everybody else replied to him "it's not going to happen." |
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Post by granny on Nov 26, 2017 16:28:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 18:13:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 4:24:35 GMT
Thread updated with the Sunday afternoon games.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 5:00:39 GMT
Thread updated with the SNF game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 6:53:13 GMT
Playoff standings
AFC
Division leaders:
Pittsburgh Steelers (9-2)
New England Patriots (9-2)
Tennessee Titans (7-4)
Kansas City Chiefs (6-5)
Wild cards:
Jacksonville Jaguars (7-4)
Buffalo Bills (6-5)
In the hunt:
Baltimore Ravens (5-5)
Cincinnati Bengals (5-6)
Los Angeles Chargers (5-6)
Oakland Raiders (5-6)
Houston Texans (4-6)
Still alive:
New York Jets (4-7)
Miami Dolphins (4-7)
Denver Broncos (3-8)
Indianapolis Colts (3-8)
Eliminated:
Cleveland Browns (0-11)
NFC
Division leaders:
Philadelphia Eagles (10-1)
Minnesota Vikings (9-2)
Los Angeles Rams (8-3)
New Orleans Saints (8-3)
Wild cards:
Carolina Panthers (8-3)
Atlanta Falcons (7-4)
In the hunt:
Seattle Seahawks (7-4)
Detroit Lions (6-5)
Green Bay Packers (5-6)
Dallas Cowboys (5-6)
Washington (5-6)
Arizona Cardinals (5-6)
Still alive:
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-7)
Chicago Bears (3-8)
Eliminated:
New York Giants (2-9)
San Francisco 49ers (1-10)
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 27, 2017 7:30:08 GMT
We just saw Tennessee's first win in Indianapolis since 2007. It's the first time Tennessee have won the season series over Indy since 2002.
Colts 2017 record in first halves of games: 8-2-1
Colts 2017 record in second halves of games: 1-9-1 (that last 1 was a second half tie that mercifully became a Colts OT win, over the goddamn 49ers, at home)
Looking at these useful stats you might conclude that Pagano's Colts are not very good at defending first half leads. And you'd be right. THEY HAVE LOST ALL BUT ONE GAME IN WHICH THEY WERE WINNING AT HALFTIME. This is a season that featured the Jaguars shutting us out at home and they are most likely going to complete the sweep next weekend.
You might say that now is not a very fun time to be a Colts fan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 11:19:41 GMT
We just saw Tennessee's first win in Indianapolis since 2007. It's the first time Tennessee have won the season series over Indy since 2002. Colts 2017 record in first halves of games: 8-2-1 Colts 2017 record in second halves of games: 1-9-1 (that last 1 was a second half tie that mercifully became a Colts OT win, over the goddamn 49ers, at home) Looking at these useful stats you might conclude that Pagano's Colts are not very good at defending first half leads. And you'd be right. THEY HAVE LOST ALL BUT ONE GAME IN WHICH THEY WERE WINNING AT HALFTIME. This is a season that featured the Jaguars shutting us out at home and they are most likely going to complete the sweep next weekend. You might say that now is not a very fun time to be a Colts fan. Sorry but it is kind of funny, hehe. |
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Post by shadyvsesham on Nov 27, 2017 22:23:23 GMT
Maybe we should keep this format for only a couple more weeks. After weeks 12 and 13, there will be only 4 weeks left and it will make more sense to switch to a playoff hunt mode rather than a winners and losers mode, because ultimately, all 12 playoff teams will be considered to be winners (by accomplishing the main goal of the regular season, that is, making the playoffs) while the other 20 will be losers. Speculation about winners and losers will be trumped by facts and no longer necessary. We can then engage in predictions about playoff scenarios, as they happen. Anyway, for now we'll continue, and if someone wants to consult the current state of affairs, here is the link to week 11: IMDB2.freeforums.net/post/1082732/threadWeek 12 game remaining (no byes): MNF Texans at Ravens ------------- Winners:Vikings - Now ahead in their division by 3 games, looking all set for a deep playoff run. -They got the division...I dont trust a playoff run for them. = Winners
Falcons - With the Saints losing, the Falcons and the Panthers are right in the thick of things for the NFC South, and within the wild card slots anyway. -And Dallas stumbling, GB dead....Atlanta is in it. Could we see 3 teams in one division all make the playoffs? Atl/Car/NO....I doubt it (Still like LAR/Sea) but it can happen!) = Winnners
Panthers - Now level with the Saints and controlling their own destiny, no longer depend on other teams to have a chance of winning the NFC South. If it happens I don't know but if it doesn't, should still make the playoffs. -Agreed = Winners
Patriots - the favorites to reach the Super Bowl from the AFC side. -What else is new = Winners
Eagles - continue to dazzle, best record in the NFL -I got a feeling theyre gonna go 1 and done in the playoff  for now....also wtf are they doing with Jay....5 carries!? Okay I guess = Winners
Saints - level with the Panthers now but will make the playoffs anyway if they don't win the division. -Man this division is insane. = Winners
Rams - great victory against the mighty Saints whom nobody could beat since the end of week 2. -I love the LAR strumbled last week and came out taking names! = Winners
Steelers - They keep giving their fans a lot of heart attacks but keep winning. -Big Ben won my fantasy game (I feel for the poor schmucks who had to play against Julio....yikes) sorry...=Winners
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Cowboys - This team completely fell apart without some of their important players due to a suspension and injuries. And hey, DC-Fan thought they would run the table... LOL. Ever since he said so they lost three in a row. -HAHAHAHAHHAAHHA...DC_Fan...the Glass Joe (Punch out fans will get it) of IMDB = Losers
Lions - That's enough. I'll no longer give the Lions the benefit of the doubt. They won't make the playoffs. -I like the lions...but NFC is just too deep. = Losers
Giants - Now at 2-9, remain pathetic. -Yea....=losers
Bucs - At 4-7 it's all effectively over for them, and has been for a while already. -I thought theyd have a better year > this, yikes! = Losers
Browns - the first draft pick is the only consolation. 0-11 now. -And they got the Texans 1st/2nd, could be a big draft for Cleveland. Theyll blow it...COME ON CLEVELAND YOU CAN DO THIS! 0-16 COME ON BABY! = Losers with a chance of making 0-16 history!
Bengals - they beat the lowly Browns but don't inspire any confidence. -Losers
Colts - Totally irrelevant at 3-8. -Losers
Dolphins - continue to sink. -Losers (IM sorry I dont got much to say on these 3)
Jets - Can't catch a break. Squandered their comeback with silly penalties. -Losers too
Bears - another mediocre 3-8 team. -More losers
Niners - the worst of two worlds, they suck, but still, the Browns will likely get the first draft pick. -Losers
Cardinals - yes, impressive upset against the Jaguars but I don't think they'll make the playoffs anyway. -Not in the deep NFC, theyre still = Losers
Broncos - how the mighty have fallen! -Jesus....=losers
Raiders - Won one but very mediocre and irregular -Indeed = Losers
Packers - even when they play well they still lose... -No Aaron no hope = Losers
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Chargers - This is the team with a losing record that no team with a winning record will want to play against. Given that most of their losses were really close, by now I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they will be able to pull it off, if they play well in all remaining games. They are now only one game behind the sinking Chiefs. -I told you this team is scary. This is the type of team you just dont wanna see. You might beat them but youre gonna give some flesh. = NME
Redskins - The thing is, they are way behind in the playoff race but all four teams ahead of them are in decline and coming out of losses (Seattle, Green Bay, Detroit, and Dallas) so, who knows? Sure, then there is the small matter of the Panthers and Falcons actually currently occupying those slots but who knows? Maybe the Redskins might still make it. Banged up like they are, I doubt it, but this peculiar position at least warrants the NME list again, for another week. -I go losers, not the NFC, it's too deep. Chargers are right there....Car, Atl, Sea.....I cant do it. = Losers
Titans - Could make a run for the division with the Jaguars' surprising loss. I still feel that the Jaguars are better than the Titans, but now both these teams will need more evidence. -Agreed = NME
Jaguars - See above. I do think they'll make the playoffs, but I want more evidence just to see which one will win the division. -I wish Jax could be consistent. = NME
Bills - Hanging in there after they cancelled the big blunder of the ill-fated Peterman start and brought back Taylor; they ware as of now within the wild card. -What a dumb move they made sitting Taylor, if they miss the playoffs....I know who Id fire (Cough coach couch) = NME.
Chiefs - On the verge of missing the playoffs if they continue to decline, but as of now still leading the division, by a hair. -LOL...KC beat NE week one, this is it for NE, a new king is in town.
Who's the king? = NMESeahawks - Hard to know what to make of them, could still make the playoffs although I find it unlikely -Ill go NME ---------------- Feel free to agree, disagree, and/or post your own analyses. Our resident troll Granny (a.k.a. BritneyFox) will post her usual ridiculous garbage and we'll keep telling that fatty to go out and get some exercise. Enjoy week 12! Only Washington, if they were in the AFC, I agree, but this NFC boy is deep. Seattle/Atl/Car...can I put Washington ahead of them? I can't, if they win again, ok, like you and last week and the LAC. I need another from Wash. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 22:40:54 GMT
shadyvsesham Yeah, we often disagree about the Redskins... I don't know why I keep giving them a pass. I move them back and forth between losers, a couple of times even winners, and mostly NME... when they've been actually insufficient to make it in the NFC. I guess, yes, losers. I actually don't think the NFC playoff scenario will change much. I think ultimately we'll have the six from the NFC being the Eagles, the Rams, the Vikings, and the three from the NFC South, the Falcons, Saints, and Panthers. It's kind of unlikely that anybody else will jump them. The one big danger, though, is that the NFC South is so deep that these teams might beat on each other, favoring the Seahawks who face much lighter competition. Atlanta however does have the head-to-head tie breaker with Seattle. But maybe the Panthers will be in trouble (I hope I'm saying this out of logic and not wishful thinking - nothing would give me more pleasure!): they will play against the Saints, the Vikings, and the Falcons. That's a hell of a schedule. They do have a couple of breaks (Packers, Bucs) but these three games will be bruising battles. It's the same thing for the Falcons, though. Bucs twice, but then the Saints, the Vikings, and the Panthers. Oh my... The Saints at least won't face the Vikings. Instead they get the Jets. But the Jets aren't that easy either. Yes, Seattle could do it because comparatively they get an easier schedule. Eagles and Rams, but also Jaguars, Cowboys, and Cardinals.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Nov 28, 2017 2:47:48 GMT
shadyvsesham Yeah, we often disagree about the Redskins... I don't know why I keep giving them a pass. I move them back and forth between losers, a couple of times even winners, and mostly NME... when they've been actually insufficient to make it in the NFC. I guess, yes, losers. I actually don't think the NFC playoff scenario will change much. I think ultimately we'll have the six from the NFC being the Eagles, the Rams, the Vikings, and the three from the NFC South, the Falcons, Saints, and Panthers. It's kind of unlikely that anybody else will jump them. The one big danger, though, is that the NFC South is so deep that these teams might beat on each other, favoring the Seahawks who face much lighter competition. Atlanta however does have the head-to-head tie breaker with Seattle. But maybe the Panthers will be in trouble (I hope I'm saying this out of logic and not wishful thinking - nothing would give me more pleasure!): they will play against the Saints, the Vikings, and the Falcons. That's a hell of a schedule. They do have a couple of breaks (Packers, Bucs) but these three games will be bruising battles. It's the same thing for the Falcons, though. Bucs twice, but then the Saints, the Vikings, and the Panthers. Oh my... The Saints at least won't face the Vikings. Instead they get the Jets. But the Jets aren't that easy either. Yes, Seattle could do it because comparatively they get an easier schedule. Eagles and Rams, but also Jaguars, Cowboys, and Cardinals. The team that eveyrone is forgetting about is the Detroit Lions, their schedule is very easy from here on out and they could easily go 11-5, putting them right in the thick of the playoff picture. Seahawks aren't going to the playoffs IMO, between the fact that they don't have a running game, their joke of an O-Line and their huge injuries on defense, plus their schedule is hard, they have the Eagles and Rams, plus they play the Cowboys when Zeke returns and the Jags and Cardinals aren't bad either. I think the Saints, Falcons and Panthers all belong in the playoffs, but their hard schedule means one of them might get eliminated. I hope if one of them gets eliminated it's the Panthers, the games this Sunday between the Vikings/Falcons and Panthers/Saints are huge. |
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