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Post by Eλευθερί on Nov 26, 2017 4:02:40 GMT
What are you favorite films that pass both the Bechdel test and the Mako Mori test?
The Bechdel test: (a) does the film have two or more named girls/women? (b) do they talk to each other? (c) does their conversation involve something other than a man?
The Mako Mori test: does the film have at least one female character that gets her own narrative arc (which is not about supporting a man's story)?
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Post by mikef6 on Nov 26, 2017 5:46:01 GMT
A few that I can think of immediately that fit and that I love.
Alien (1979) Aliens (1986) Phoenix (2014) My best picture of the decade, so far. Germany. Ida (2013) Poland Battle Of The Sexes (2017) Blue Jasmine (2013)
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Post by louise on Nov 26, 2017 17:16:38 GMT
Desk set (1957). delightful film. revolves around a group of women who all like each other and all like their job and are all good at it - could hardly be a more positive view of women working together.
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Post by Archelaus on Nov 27, 2017 0:01:11 GMT
Gone with the Wind A Streetcar Named Desire Rebecca Hannah and Her Sisters From Russia with Love Inside Out Cinderella (1950) Beauty and the Beast (1991) The Wizard of Oz Wonder Woman Alien Poltergeist (1982)
As for the Mako Mori test, Inside Out passes because Joy learns to accept Sadness.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Nov 29, 2017 19:13:11 GMT
I'm still working on developing a list. One of the surprising things is that a number of films that on first thought might seem to pass both tests (eg Elizabeth, Tomb Raider), actually do not, or just barely do.
some contenders:
The Wizard of Oz Maria Full of Grace Set It Off Rosemary's Baby Silkwood The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie The China Syndrome Thelma & Louise (? - most of their relationship involves dealing with a man)
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Post by Eλευθερί on Nov 29, 2017 19:41:48 GMT
I'm still working on developing a list. One of the surprising things is that a number of films that on first thought might seem to pass both tests (eg Elizabeth, Tomb Raider), actually do not, or just barely do. some contenders: The Wizard of Oz Maria Full of Grace Set It Off Rosemary's Baby Silkwood The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie The China Syndrome Thelma & Louise (? - most of their relationship involves dealing with a man) Scratch The China Syndrome. I forgot that there are almost no named female characters other than the lead!
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