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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Mar 5, 2017 21:20:55 GMT
Viewed this last night. Saw it when it was originally released, and this is the third time since then. Other than Torn Curtain (1966), one of the least likable and enjoyable of Hitchcock's films. Played for cute, it had the appalling Barbara Harris who always, no matter what she's in, looks like she's recovering from a bad drunken night out. I do like all the other actors, but they weren't so great in this either. Felt like Hitch was phoning this one in. 4/10
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 5, 2017 23:50:42 GMT
Viewed this last night. Saw it when it was originally released, and this is the third time since then. Other than Torn Curtain (1966), one of the least likable and enjoyable of Hitchcock's films. Played for cute, it had the appalling Barbara Harris who always, no matter what she's in, looks like she's recovering from a bad drunken night out. I do like all the other actors, but they weren't so great in this either. Felt like Hitch was phoning this one in. 4/10 Following Hitchcock's triumphant (in my view) return to the screen with Frenzy after three years away, my hopes were high for Family Plot (no "The," by the way) after another years-long absence. Upon my first viewing (incidentally, at its world premiere at the Los Angeles International Film Exposition, aka: FILMEX), it was decidedly disappointing, and I don't think I saw it again for nearly another decade. Since then, I've watched it well over a dozen times, growing fonder of it with each viewing, and able to appreciate the good things it has to offer without the unexpected disappointment of that first one. There are sequences in which Hitchcock is really on his game, but it is true that his health and stamina were failing during production. "Phoning it in" is a figure of speech, but he did quite literally sleep through portions of it, having to be awakened by the A.D. to call "Cut" at the end of a take. Having a strong aversion to a major player as you do is a roadblock to enjoyment that it's hard to get around, and one with which I can sympathize. Although Harris isn't among them, there are a small handful of performers who set my teeth on edge and diminish my ability to enjoy certain films. That's just the way it goes sometimes, and it's therefore doubtful you'll ever come to the level of Family Plot appreciation I have, regardless of how many future chances you might be generous enough to grant it.
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Post by geode on Mar 6, 2017 0:07:37 GMT
Viewed this last night. Saw it when it was originally released, and this is the third time since then. Other than Torn Curtain (1966), one of the least likable and enjoyable of Hitchcock's films. Played for cute, it had the appalling Barbara Harris who always, no matter what she's in, looks like she's recovering from a bad drunken night out. I do like all the other actors, but they weren't so great in this either. Felt like Hitch was phoning this one in. 4/10 Although not one of Hitchcock's better films, I actually liked this one in part because Barbara Harris was in it. By the time this was released I already sort of adored her. I have not seen the film since 1976.
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Post by Wesley Crusher on Mar 6, 2017 0:20:32 GMT
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Family Plot (1976) 4/10 ... Not for me. #32/40 Alfred Hitchcock films
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Post by naterdawg on Mar 6, 2017 3:00:17 GMT
Saw this at the movies in the summer of 76 and was very disappointed. A little Barbara Harris goes a long way, and I just can't get my eyes off the wigs she's always wearing that look like they're eating her head.
This just does not have the Hitchcock sheen and comes across almost like a made for TV movie. Ugly rear projection when Blanche is in a car with a cut brake line, too. Not at all what I would expect from Hitch. William Devane was smarmy, and Karen Black is a little too shrill for my tastes.
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Post by shawshanked on Mar 6, 2017 18:00:43 GMT
One of Hitchcock's underrated films. While sections of it are very poor (The first 12 mins or so especially), it is overall a nice light hearted story. 7/10
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 18:01:46 GMT
Viewed this last night. Saw it when it was originally released, and this is the third time since then. Other than Torn Curtain (1966), one of the least likable and enjoyable of Hitchcock's films. Played for cute, it had the appalling Barbara Harris who always, no matter what she's in, looks like she's recovering from a bad drunken night out. I do like all the other actors, but they weren't so great in this either. Felt like Hitch was phoning this one in. 4/10 Well, thanx for that uplifting post.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 18:03:15 GMT
Alfred Hitchcock (40 films seen) #1 Rated Director Family Plot (1976) 4/10 ... Not for me. #32/40 Alfred Hitchcock films Have you watched Family Plot?
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Mar 6, 2017 18:22:35 GMT
Viewed this last night. .... Felt like Hitch was phoning this one in. 4/10 Thanks to the DVR, I watched it last night too, pinky!
I must say I've always enjoyed this one, mainly because of the rather quirky characters in it (I love Bruce Dern's whimsical portrayal of George the actor-cum-taxi driver/"lawyer", for example, and Ed Lauter is enjoyably slimy and creepy in his role). I agree that Barbara Harris is a bit off-putting, but that's mainly because her character, that "spiritualist" woman, is engaged in such an unsavory business. I would just chalk it up to good acting on Harris's part.
There are a few flaws, namely in the way it sometimes feels like a glorified made-for-TV detective movie. Be that as it may, I personally find this to be one of Hitchcock's most enjoyable films.
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Post by Wesley Crusher on Mar 6, 2017 18:38:56 GMT
Alfred Hitchcock (40 films seen) #1 Rated Director Family Plot (1976) 4/10 ... Not for me. #32/40 Alfred Hitchcock films Have you watched Family Plot? Yes to your question ... I have seen 40 Alfred Hitchcock films ... he is my #1 rated director Family Plot (1976) is my #32 favorite Alfred Hitchcock film. I did not enjoy it ... others may But it is not made for me ... that's why I rated it a 4/10.
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Post by teleadm on Mar 6, 2017 18:39:43 GMT
Well, it's Hitchcock light, and as a career swan song he could have done worse. I thought it was rather entertaing, some scenes have a feeling of a Made-for-TV movie, maybe because he wanted to do so much in a studio environment that seemed out of touch with movies that came out around that time. Also nice to see Bruce Dern as a sort of good guy (even if it's not an honest bussiness).
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Post by mikef6 on Mar 6, 2017 19:00:41 GMT
Hitchcock’s 53rd and last film doesn’t have any of the weight or horror that is found in his output from the ‘50s and ‘60s or even from his TV show. It is, instead, a throwback to the comedy-chase thrillers of his English period – with even more emphasis on the comedy. As in his last few films, Hitchcock found himself working with young, rising stars instead of his Old Guard like Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart. The new, young Method actors had tendency to annoy him. However, of the two couples that were involved in the story, Hitchcock came to like the two actors in the hero roles (Barbara Harris and Bruce Dern), but dislike William Devane and Karen Black who played the villains. Personally, my opinion is the exact opposite. I thought Devane and Black were wonderful. Harris and Dern did OK, but were given too much unrealistic slapstick to do. Even though Hitch always claimed to hate long talky scenes, the movie begins, shockingly, with two long conversations of plot exposition. First, Harris is hired by the rich Mrs. Rainbird to find the now grown illegitimate son of her sister. Then, Harris gets into a cab with Dern and explains the plot all over again to him. However, the camera soon leaves the taxi to follow a person who crosses the street in front of it – a brilliant touch - and soon we are in the middle of some delightful Hitchcockery. He may have been trying to duplicate the successful slow beginning and build up of “The Birds.” Compared with Hitchcock’s greatest achievements, “Family Plot” surely does seem minor. But this kind of comparison is really unfair. On its own merits, it is a charmer that should not be neglected. He may not have ended on the high note we all would wish, but he does return to his roots, the genre that first made him famous, to deliver a very watchable and entertaining comedy thriller. P.S. the script evens lightens up the original source (“The Rainbird Pattern” by Victor Canning) in which one of the Good Guys – who lives in the movie - meets a gruesome death.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Mar 6, 2017 19:07:36 GMT
Hitchcock’s 53rd and last film doesn’t have any of the weight or horror that is found in his output from the ‘50s and ‘60s or even from his TV show. It is, instead, a throwback to the comedy-chase thrillers of his English period – with even more emphasis on the comedy. As in his last few films, Hitchcock found himself working with young, rising stars instead of his Old Guard like Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart. The new, young Method actors had tendency to annoy him. However, of the two couples that were involved in the story, Hitchcock came to like the two actors in the hero roles (Barbara Harris and Bruce Dern), but dislike William Devane and Karen Black who played the villains. Personally, my opinion is the exact opposite. I thought Devane and Black were wonderful. Harris and Dern did OK, but were given too much unrealistic slapstick to do. Even though Hitch always claimed to hate long talky scenes, the movie begins, shockingly, with two long conversations of plot exposition. First, Harris is hired by the rich Mrs. Rainbird to find the now grown illegitimate son of her sister. Then, Harris gets into a cab with Dern and explains the plot all over again to him. However, the camera soon leaves the taxi to follow a person who crosses the street in front of it – a brilliant touch - and soon we are in the middle of some delightful Hitchcockery. He may have been trying to duplicate the successful slow beginning and build up of “The Birds.” Compared with Hitchcock’s greatest achievements, “Family Plot” surely does seem minor. But this kind of comparison is really unfair. On its own merits, it is a charmer that should not be neglected. He may not have ended on the high note we all would wish, but he does return to his roots, the genre that first made him famous, to deliver a very watchable and entertaining comedy thriller. P.S. the script evens lightens up the original source (“The Rainbird Pattern” by Victor Canning) in which one of the Good Guys – who lives in the movie - meets a gruesome death. The most annoying scene for me was the one where the car isn't slowing down because the accelerator is stuck, and there are no brakes. Dean, okay. Harris, I wanted to smack her. It wasn't slapstick. It was an embarrassment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 19:16:31 GMT
I liked it when I first saw it (on the same day as Taxi Driver) but it didn't hold up so well when I watched it for the first time in years around Christmas. Enjoyable fluff but should have been a lot better.
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Post by mikef6 on Mar 6, 2017 20:08:57 GMT
The most annoying scene for me was the one where the car isn't slowing down because the accelerator is stuck, and there are no brakes. Dean, okay. Harris, I wanted to smack her. It wasn't slapstick. It was an embarrassment. Then you might enjoy Victor Canning's novel that the movie came from. It is Barbara Harris' character that meets that gruesome death I mentioned.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Mar 6, 2017 20:22:05 GMT
The most annoying scene for me was the one where the car isn't slowing down because the accelerator is stuck, and there are no brakes. Dean, okay. Harris, I wanted to smack her. It wasn't slapstick. It was an embarrassment. Then you might enjoy Victor Canning's novel that the movie came from. It is Barbara Harris' character that meets that gruesome death I mentioned. So, she dies? Why didn't he put that in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 23:26:51 GMT
Have you watched Family Plot? Yes to your question ... I have seen 40 Alfred Hitchcock films ... he is my #1 rated director Family Plot (1976) is my #32 favorite Alfred Hitchcock film. I did not enjoy it ... others may But it is not made for me ... that's why I rated it a 4/10. Okay, thanx. It's not my favorite Hitchcock, either. The first time I watched it it seemed too apparent that it was near the end of in his career. I think it a good movie but not to be compared to most of his work.
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Post by Salzmank on Mar 10, 2017 4:46:09 GMT
Viewed this last night. Saw it when it was originally released, and this is the third time since then. Other than Torn Curtain (1966), one of the least likable and enjoyable of Hitchcock's films. Played for cute, it had the appalling Barbara Harris who always, no matter what she's in, looks like she's recovering from a bad drunken night out. I do like all the other actors, but they weren't so great in this either. Felt like Hitch was phoning this one in. 4/10 Following Hitchcock's triumphant (in my view) return to the screen with Frenzy after three years away, my hopes were high for Family Plot (no "The," by the way) after another years-long absence. Upon my first viewing (incidentally, at its world premiere at the Los Angeles International Film Exposition, aka: FILMEX), it was decidedly disappointing, and I don't think I saw it again for nearly another decade. Since then, I've watched it well over a dozen times, growing fonder of it with each viewing, and able to appreciate the good things it has to offer without the unexpected disappointment of that first one. There are sequences in which Hitchcock is really on his game, but it is true that his health and stamina were failing during production. "Phoning it in" is a figure of speech, but he did quite literally sleep through portions of it, having to be awakened by the A.D. to call "Cut" at the end of a take. Having a strong aversion to a major player as you do is a roadblock to enjoyment that it's hard to get around, and one with which I can sympathize. Although Harris isn't among them, there are a small handful of performers who set my teeth on edge and diminish my ability to enjoy certain films. That's just the way it goes sometimes, and it's therefore doubtful you'll ever come to the level of Family Plot appreciation I have, regardless of how many future chances you might be generous enough to grant it. Gee, this is gonna be repetitive, but, uh... What he said! Doghouse's thoughts are essentially the same as mine regarding this little flick, which is fun and enjoyable but never particularly serious or, to use a word I've employed elsewhere re: Hitchcock, satisfying. Frenzy represented a fine cumulation for Hitch's career, and Family Plot seems to serve only as a nice cherry on top. As Mike wrote, I definitely agree; I too thought Devane and Black were wonderful and Harris and Dern were but OK; Barbara Harris was, however, terribly annoying in this, and the scene with the cut break lines was just strange, almost surreal in its unreality (so far removed from how real people would respond!). Indeed, the person with whom I was watching it and I were cracking up at that scene and were far more interested in the mysterious business at Abe and Mabel's!  Wth the exception of that scene, however, it is an enjoyable, if very minor, way to pass an hour and a half.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on May 3, 2017 12:59:32 GMT
I liked it, but it had very little of that Hitch feel to it, other than the careening car without brakes sequence. And it does look like some 70's TV episode. Still, worth checking out for film fans.
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