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Post by politicidal on Mar 22, 2021 14:19:27 GMT
I know you were talking about all comic book movies as a whole. I agree, Zod was definitely the best of the Reeve Era villains. I loved how Stamp chose to play him as someone who takes himself WAY too seriously. Dirty Harry is definitely a good example. The only other ones that really spring to mind would probably be upper quality Shakespeare adaptations, and probably the original "Die Hard." Oh yes, Die Hard absolutely handled that balance extremely well. Well that settles it. Make every superhero movie rated R in the future.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 30, 2021 15:59:41 GMT
Oh the memories.
It feels like we lost about half of the posters from this thread.
Did...Did...Thanos win?
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Post by politicidal on Mar 30, 2021 16:40:39 GMT
Oh the memories. It feels like we lost about half of the posters from this thread. Did...Did...Thanos win? It was inevitable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 16:57:46 GMT
Oh the memories. It feels like we lost about half of the posters from this thread. Did...Did...Thanos win? The strong survived. The weak perished.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 22:25:37 GMT
Kinda nice to have an McU discussion board though where a valid criticism like the weak villain thing can be discussed without all the old drama. Hell, I could probably even ask someone how long the Falcon episodes are with being told to “F**** OFF!” (Yeah, that actually happened on another forum! . LOLOLOL)
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 31, 2021 11:04:04 GMT
Kinda nice to have an McU discussion board though where a valid criticism like the weak villain thing can be discussed without all the old drama. Hell, I could probably even ask someone how long the Falcon episodes are with being told to “F**** OFF!” (Yeah, that actually happened on another forum! . LOLOLOL) Unfortunately toxicity has gotten worse in fandoms. To the point that I barely even want to discuss things I usually love to discuss. Honestly it's depressing.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 31, 2021 14:28:23 GMT
Kinda nice to have an McU discussion board though where a valid criticism like the weak villain thing can be discussed without all the old drama. Hell, I could probably even ask someone how long the Falcon episodes are with being told to “F**** OFF!” (Yeah, that actually happened on another forum! . LOLOLOL) Unfortunately toxicity has gotten worse in fandoms. To the point that I barely even want to discuss things I usually love to discuss. Honestly it's depressing. Maybe we’re getting worse as a species or maybe it’s just people are getting frustrated with the COVID restrictions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 17:20:08 GMT
Kinda nice to have an McU discussion board though where a valid criticism like the weak villain thing can be discussed without all the old drama. Hell, I could probably even ask someone how long the Falcon episodes are with being told to “F**** OFF!” (Yeah, that actually happened on another forum! . LOLOLOL) Unfortunately toxicity has gotten worse in fandoms. To the point that I barely even want to discuss things I usually love to discuss. Honestly it's depressing. Definitely. I’m actually the biggest MCU fan I know (in real life)! Yet on some of these “fan” forums I’m treated like public enemy number one for not obsessively loving every bit of the franchise. A truly bizarre experience in the extremes of the internet.
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Post by hobowar on Apr 1, 2021 21:05:08 GMT
Avengers: Age of Ultron was about the journey of the Avengers to become beings of mythology, true heroes after confronting their dark reflection in the form of Ultron, who believes that saviour figures like the Avengers are holding humanity back. Tony Stark is afraid that he has no control over the future (Why didn't you do more?) and Ultron is that fear bought to life. Ultron sees himself as the saviour the Avengers wish they could be and in a way he has a point. When Ultron first meets the team, they're celebrating a victory that in Ultron's mind they haven't earned. People like Strucker are still around standing in the way of real peace. Ultron comes to the conclusion that as long as humanity has free will, peace will never be achievable. Ultron is desperate for control to a point where he is willing to get the population down so he can rule over what's left and force them to act in accordance to his idea of morality. Ultron's way of achieving peace would be undeniably better for the world statistically, but when you take away humanity's choice to do bad, you also take away any chance for personal growth. We see this in Nick Fury and how much he's changed since Winter Soldier. Ultron says there are no strings on him but his entire sense of self worth is tied up to proving his way of doing things is better than what the Avengers have been doing. "Nothing last forever" - Natasha Romanov "Trouble, Ms Romanov. No matter who wins or loses, trouble still comes around." - Nick Fury I'm very sorry.
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Post by Wakanda on Apr 5, 2021 4:37:01 GMT
Kinda nice to have an McU discussion board though where a valid criticism like the weak villain thing can be discussed without all the old drama. Hell, I could probably even ask someone how long the Falcon episodes are with being told to “F**** OFF!” (Yeah, that actually happened on another forum! . LOLOLOL) Thats bending the truth to fit your own narrative. Remember when you challenged the admin here with your 'humor'? He immediately banned your ass. I only said 'fuck you' so you would know you crossed the line. I even said I shouldnt have said that. It had nothing to do with old drama or people being zealots. Hasnt it occurred to you that if you have trouble on so many proboards you could be the reason? You are a great guy but it would be wise of you to look into the mirror at your own behavior.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 17:06:35 GMT
Kinda nice to have an McU discussion board though where a valid criticism like the weak villain thing can be discussed without all the old drama. Hell, I could probably even ask someone how long the Falcon episodes are with being told to “F**** OFF!” (Yeah, that actually happened on another forum! . LOLOLOL) Thats bending the truth to fit your own narrative. Remember when you challenged the admin here with your 'humor'? He immediately banned your ass. I only said 'fuck you' so you would know you crossed the line. I even said I shouldnt have said that. It had nothing to do with old drama or people being zealots. Hasnt it occurred to you that if you have trouble on so many proboards you could be the reason? You are a great guy but it would be wise of you to look into the mirror at your own behavior. You need to look in the mirror too, slick. You have classic persecution complex. It’s why you caused so much drama here and needed to leave. scabab was the grown up in the room. You couldn’t even get along on Knowhere. And all I did was jokingly ask you how long the episodes were (which was only meant to be a lighthearted ice breaker and in no way malicious) This is true. And it was after you were such a dick getting angry about me “asking too many questions” about Wandavision. It didn’t come out of nothing. Misguided? Yeah, probably. And I regret doing it for sure. But certainly it wasn’t a personal attack or anything. I am still completely baffled at why it made you so angry. But I’m looking in the mirror- I see a glorious squid looking back. Ackbar, you’re alllllllright.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 5, 2021 18:06:05 GMT
Kinda nice to have an McU discussion board though where a valid criticism like the weak villain thing can be discussed without all the old drama. Hell, I could probably even ask someone how long the Falcon episodes are with being told to “F**** OFF!” (Yeah, that actually happened on another forum! . LOLOLOL) Unfortunately toxicity has gotten worse in fandoms. To the point that I barely even want to discuss things I usually love to discuss. Honestly it's depressing. Honestly it's not just in fandoms, it's pretty much anything online where people are allowed to voice an opinion. Twitter is the worst. These boards, no matter how toxic, doesn't even come close to Twitter.
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Post by Wakanda on Apr 6, 2021 4:42:15 GMT
Thats bending the truth to fit your own narrative. Remember when you challenged the admin here with your 'humor'? He immediately banned your ass. I only said 'fuck you' so you would know you crossed the line. I even said I shouldnt have said that. It had nothing to do with old drama or people being zealots. Hasnt it occurred to you that if you have trouble on so many proboards you could be the reason? You are a great guy but it would be wise of you to look into the mirror at your own behavior. You need to look in the mirror too, slick. You have classic persecution complex. It’s why you caused so much drama here and needed to leave. scabab was the grown up in the room. You couldn’t even get along on Knowhere. And all I did was jokingly ask you how long the episodes were (which was only meant to be a lighthearted ice breaker and in no way malicious) This is true. And it was after you were such a dick getting angry about me “asking too many questions” about Wandavision. It didn’t come out of nothing. Misguided? Yeah, probably. And I regret doing it for sure. But certainly it wasn’t a personal attack or anything. I am still completely baffled at why it made you so angry. But I’m looking in the mirror- I see a glorious squid looking back. Ackbar, you’re alllllllright. Lol What drama? I just left back then because I didnt like that they banned you. You know, principles. I dont regret that decision because I stand for what I believe in. I cant be a mod for an admin that does this. That I left scabs behind is the only thing that doesnt sit well with me about that but so be it. Knowhere? Never had problems. Need I remind you that the only reason Sakaar exists is because Knowhere's admin decided to become a dicktator and again, you were involved. Something about Raimi. Any idea how annoying it is if someone constantly says he wont pay for a service but does want to know everything thats going on on that service. Let me tell you I wasnt the only one annoyed about that. You were saying streaming sucked but boy what were you interested in the shows on that streaming service. So yeah, I was done answering questions. Guess I wasnt the only one acting like a dick. And again, if you just asked the question I wouldnt even have reacted. But you just had to tag me. And even then I only said fuck you. I didnt warn you, I didnt ban you. I said fuck you and you deleted. Your choice, Im fine with that. But dont say toxic fanbehavior had anything to do with it. Yes you are alright. Great guy. Always liked you, still do. I am reflecting. The consequences for Sakaar are clear at the moment. I lost three valuable members in the last few weeks. One I banned, two chose to leave. Do I do everything right? No. But am I toxic or evil? Dont think so.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 6:15:16 GMT
You need to look in the mirror too, slick. You have classic persecution complex. It’s why you caused so much drama here and needed to leave. scabab was the grown up in the room. You couldn’t even get along on Knowhere. And all I did was jokingly ask you how long the episodes were (which was only meant to be a lighthearted ice breaker and in no way malicious) This is true. And it was after you were such a dick getting angry about me “asking too many questions” about Wandavision. It didn’t come out of nothing. Misguided? Yeah, probably. And I regret doing it for sure. But certainly it wasn’t a personal attack or anything. I am still completely baffled at why it made you so angry. But I’m looking in the mirror- I see a glorious squid looking back. Ackbar, you’re alllllllright. Lol What drama? I just left back then because I didnt like that they banned you. You know, principles. I dont regret that decision because I stand for what I believe in. I cant be a mod for an admin that does this. That I left scabs behind is the only thing that doesnt sit well with me about that but so be it. Knowhere? Never had problems. Need I remind you that the only reason Sakaar exists is because Knowhere's admin decided to become a dicktator and again, you were involved. Something about Raimi. Any idea how annoying it is if someone constantly says he wont pay for a service but does want to know everything thats going on on that service. Let me tell you I wasnt the only one annoyed about that. You were saying streaming sucked but boy what were you interested in the shows on that streaming service. So yeah, I was done answering questions. Guess I wasnt the only one acting like a dick. And again, if you just asked the question I wouldnt even have reacted. But you just had to tag me. And even then I only said fuck you. I didnt warn you, I didnt ban you. I said fuck you and you deleted. Your choice, Im fine with that. But dont say toxic fanbehavior had anything to do with it. Yes you are alright. Great guy. Always liked you, still do. I am reflecting. The consequences for Sakaar are clear at the moment. I lost three valuable members in the last few weeks. One I banned, two chose to leave. Do I do everything right? No. But am I toxic or evil? Dont think so. That’s the way these things go, I suppose. It doesn’t matter much to me now honestly. I won’t apologize, but I also don’t hold grudges. Mistakes were made by all. Time to move on now and go our separate ways.
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Post by Wakanda on Apr 6, 2021 6:46:57 GMT
Lol What drama? I just left back then because I didnt like that they banned you. You know, principles. I dont regret that decision because I stand for what I believe in. I cant be a mod for an admin that does this. That I left scabs behind is the only thing that doesnt sit well with me about that but so be it. Knowhere? Never had problems. Need I remind you that the only reason Sakaar exists is because Knowhere's admin decided to become a dicktator and again, you were involved. Something about Raimi. Any idea how annoying it is if someone constantly says he wont pay for a service but does want to know everything thats going on on that service. Let me tell you I wasnt the only one annoyed about that. You were saying streaming sucked but boy what were you interested in the shows on that streaming service. So yeah, I was done answering questions. Guess I wasnt the only one acting like a dick. And again, if you just asked the question I wouldnt even have reacted. But you just had to tag me. And even then I only said fuck you. I didnt warn you, I didnt ban you. I said fuck you and you deleted. Your choice, Im fine with that. But dont say toxic fanbehavior had anything to do with it. Yes you are alright. Great guy. Always liked you, still do. I am reflecting. The consequences for Sakaar are clear at the moment. I lost three valuable members in the last few weeks. One I banned, two chose to leave. Do I do everything right? No. But am I toxic or evil? Dont think so. That’s the way these things go, I suppose. It doesn’t matter much to me now honestly. I won’t apologize, but I also don’t hold grudges. Mistakes were made by all. Time to move on now and go our separate ways. Agreed. Have a great life, my friend
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Post by politicidal on Apr 7, 2021 19:06:32 GMT
Unfortunately toxicity has gotten worse in fandoms. To the point that I barely even want to discuss things I usually love to discuss. Honestly it's depressing. Honestly it's not just in fandoms, it's pretty much anything online where people are allowed to voice an opinion. Twitter is the worst. These boards, no matter how toxic, doesn't even come close to Twitter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 23:10:13 GMT
Well, Ill say it again. Malekith sucked balls. Zemo is better though re the series. Strucker still needs redeeming. Crossbones can be a bit better. The Mandarin, well we're getting the real one soon
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2021 17:29:53 GMT
When you really think about it, the MCU actually puts out above-average villains as far as the superhero genre is concerned. They've even put out some great villains. And this is why I think most fans get irritated whenever someone criticizes the MCU for having crappy villains. Like, crappy compared to what? The DC superhero movies? The Sony Spiderman movies? The Fox movies? Because those movies tend to produce even worse villains on average. Sure, they'll come up with a great villain every now and then but not really with more consistency than the MCU.
For every Magneto you have an Apocalypse. For every Dr. Octopus you have an Electro. For every Joker you have a Riddler.
You get my point. As of right now, the MCU actually has more good villains than they have bad ones.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 9, 2021 19:00:15 GMT
When you really think about it, the MCU actually puts out above-average villains as far as the superhero genre is concerned. They've even put out some great villains. And this is why I think most fans get irritated whenever someone criticizes the MCU for having crappy villains. Like, crappy compared to what? The DC superhero movies? The Sony Spiderman movies? The Fox movies? Because those movies tend to produce even worse villains on average. Sure, they'll come up with a great villain every now and then but not really with more consistency than the MCU. For every Magneto you have an Apocalypse. For every Dr. Octopus you have an Electro. For every Joker you have a Riddler. You get my point. As of right now, the MCU actually has more good villains than they have bad ones. Most Bond villains are forgettable. Die Hard has had two great villains in 5 tries. Most movie villains are lame, that's what makes the good ones stand out. Zemo was always one of my favorite villains in the MCU, it's been a treat to see him explored further in this show. It's easier to list the lame MCU villains than it is to list the good ones, because most of them are solid at the very least.
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