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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 22:49:55 GMT
Exactly my thoughts. Act one is fantastic. Act three is pretty good. But Act Two is sort of mediocre. I do enjoy this one a lot though. Still one of my favorite MCU movies. Yeah honestly, I absolutely love Act one. Showing Steve Roger's struggles and burning desire to join the army was great, his origin story was great, I loved the characters, the setting, the training camp scenes, the action sequence in the lab etc... It had a lot of heart and really felt like a old WWII movie and feels grounded in the era of the story. My biggest problem of the movie is the aesthetic does feel really mismatched at parts. One of the reasons why I loved act I so much was because it felt like a war story and I was really into it. The second act, I agree, is what brings the movie down quite a bit. It's basically a montage of war, the weird guns show up and it becomes more of what you would see in 'The Avengers' or something . If TFA's second and third act were as amazing as the first it'd probably be my favorite MARVEL movie. Man, you took the words right outta my mouth. Cap TFA has one of my favorite comic book movie act ones. I agree with everything you said. It's got so much charm and atmosphere. I love the slightly fantastical yet still believable 1940s aesthetic. I love the sci fi angle and how it's presented. I love the B movie action serial tone. Act two only really goes south after Cap gets the uniform, because instead of showing his mission and raising the stakes we get a montage showing Cap kicking hydra butt. Things should've gotten more intense/tougher for Cap but instead they easier and Red Skull gets weaker. Even Bucky's death is sort of a defeat for Skull because his number two guy, Zola is captured. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 22:53:31 GMT
8.5/10 Johnston directed a fun homage to the old adventure serials in a movie that actually gets better over time. It also has one of the best musical scores of any MCU movie (which is admittedly not saying much). I love Johnston's directorial work in this one. It's slightly Spielbergian in style, which is awesome. I wish the MCU would bring him back to do a movie. He should've done Ant Man! |
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Post by politicidal on Dec 5, 2017 23:45:40 GMT
9/10.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 0:07:15 GMT
4/10. I agree with evryone that the first act is great, then it goes downhill. I also never liked Peggy.
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Post by Jayman on Dec 6, 2017 1:31:59 GMT
8.5. Just watched this a few days ago for the first time. Great movie!
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 6, 2017 2:05:22 GMT
The magic gas didn't feel out of place with the tone of the movie that also involved Wonder Woman being made from magic. Captain America: The First Avenger though was a mostly serious movie with a well recreated look at World War 2, that wasn't otherworldly as Captain America was a result of science. Then at the end of the movie you had people running around shooting laser guns like Stormtroopers. A result of a magical space object. But it was clearly stated it was something Odin hid on Earth, and we'd already seen Odin and the Asgardians in Thor a few months earlier. It was to show how the films connected to one another, even if they were different types of film (Thor a Fantasy Epic, First Avenger and CBM set in Wartime). |
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Post by scabab on Dec 6, 2017 2:28:59 GMT
But it was clearly stated it was something Odin hid on Earth, and we'd already seen Odin and the Asgardians in Thor a few months earlier. It was to show how the films connected to one another, even if they were different types of film (Thor a Fantasy Epic, First Avenger and CBM set in Wartime). I know it ties in, it just didn't really match the rest of the movie. These magical gems with special abilities better suit movies like Thor, Guardians of the Galaxy and Doctor Strange. It seemed out of place in Captain America. Captain America Winter Soldier didn't have that whole Sci-Fi/Magic thing going for it and it was all the better for it. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 6, 2017 2:41:53 GMT
But it was clearly stated it was something Odin hid on Earth, and we'd already seen Odin and the Asgardians in Thor a few months earlier. It was to show how the films connected to one another, even if they were different types of film (Thor a Fantasy Epic, First Avenger and CBM set in Wartime). I know it ties in, it just didn't really match the rest of the movie. These magical gems with special abilities better suit movies like Thor, Guardians of the Galaxy and Doctor Strange. It seemed out of place in Captain America. Captain America Winter Soldier didn't have that whole Sci-Fi/Magic thing going for it and it was all the better for it. But isn't the point of the MCU that all this stuff co-exists and can impact every movie? That they can toy with the genres they have? I mean, those magic space gems are the origin of Iron Man. No one complains there. Winter Soldier had a secret Nazi Cult and the mind of a Swiss Scientist saved on old 70s era computers. That's pretty whacked out. |
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Post by scabab on Dec 6, 2017 3:59:32 GMT
But isn't the point of the MCU that all this stuff co-exists and can impact every movie? That they can toy with the genres they have? They all co-exist but I still think they need to have a somewhat consistent tone. Daredevil is a part of the MCU as well but if Ego, the planet with the Giant face were to suddenly show up then it would be completely out of place. Same with having these light heart comedy Guardians of the Galaxy movies and then The Punisher showing up and stabbing someone to death with a shiv. I think that was one of the reasons why they said they didn't have The Mandarin in the Iron Man movies because him being some Chinese guy with magical rings didn't really fit in well with what they'd made. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 6, 2017 4:12:47 GMT
Daredevil is a part of the MCU as well but if Ego, the planet with the Giant face were to suddenly show up then it would be completely out of place. Well, Kingpin owed his power to an Alien Invasion... Guardians 1 had Ronan smash a guy's head open so he could bathe in his blood. W That, and Mandarin's overrated...he hasn't been a relevant character in years. Obadiah Stane was always a better villain than him. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 6, 2017 4:23:32 GMT
8/10. Was pleasantly surprised by the film. They did my boy right, although i'd perfer for Howling Commando action and less stage show dancing!
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 6, 2017 5:02:48 GMT
1/10
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Post by scabab on Dec 6, 2017 6:41:01 GMT
Well, Kingpin owed his power to an Alien Invasion... Which was part of the aftermath as they are set in the same universe. There were no flying Chitari whales flying around in Daredevil though because it obviously wouldn't have fit with the tone of the series. That happened off screen. You were never going to see someone's skull get bashed to pieces in a comedy that has a talking racoon and a talking tree as best friends. Just like The Punisher with all its gritty violence wouldn't have Howard the Duck appear in one of the episodes because he doesn't fit in like he would in Thor. I don't think any of Iron Man's villains were relevant. The Mandarin was Iron Man's signature villain, he was the only one that people ever really knew. He was used in that animated movie they did just a year before the movie came out. Then they completely messed it up with Iron Man 3. I don't think the character would have worked well with Iron Man. Seems a better fit for Doctor Strange, though they ruined it now so it doesn't really matter. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Dec 6, 2017 10:43:00 GMT
7/10
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 20:35:37 GMT
No love for the Star Spangled Mang? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 7, 2017 20:45:22 GMT
No love for the Star Spangled Mang? Colden thinks every single Marvel character except for Spidey and the X-Men are D-Listers unworthy of recognition. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 7, 2017 20:47:12 GMT
I think some folks are seeing this rose tinted glasses. This one, Incredible Hulk, and Thor were meh. Not bad, but not great.
Of course I was still in awe because I never thought we'd see a shared universe of super hero movies, much less getting it right, but I remember being neither blown away nor disappointed. Just meh.
At this point I was still measuring the Marvel movies to Iron Man (1) which was awesome. It wasn't until Avengers and then Winter Soldier that I thought "WOW".
Speaking of Iron Man... what a great year that was for CBMs. Iron Man and The Dark Knight both in the same summer. Two leaps forward in the evolution of what CBMs could aspire to be. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 7, 2017 21:24:11 GMT
No love for the Star Spangled Mang? It's a garbage throwaway movie about a D-list jobber!!!1 (It's on the low end of "origin stories," for me. It's not, like, Wolverine: Origins-level bad, but it's a far cry from high-end first installments such as Spider-Man (2002), Batman Begins, or Iron Man 1. 4/10 might be harsh, but I wouldn't go higher than like 5.9/10 in all seriousness.) |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 7, 2017 21:27:44 GMT
LOL... Oh DC-Fan, you're something else... |
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