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Post by darkpast on Dec 7, 2017 6:25:05 GMT
Will You Be Mad?
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 7, 2017 15:12:37 GMT
No, because:
1) Logan wasn't much good in the first place. It doesn't belong in the awards season.
2) Conservative trolls always come out of their holes in great numbers anytime a movie made by African-Americans or a performance by a black actor is awarded. Any anger over "Get Out" can probably be put down to being disturbed that superior white people didn't get the nom or the little statue.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 7, 2017 15:52:12 GMT
I liked it better than the former so no. However, I'll concede that of the superhero movies released this year, it stands the best chance for some wildcard nominations. So I'll at least be surprised if it's not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 18:49:26 GMT
'Logan' was a great film and 'Get Out' was average at best. I won't be mad, but I'll be disappointed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 18:51:05 GMT
No, because: 1) Logan wasn't much good in the first place. It doesn't belong in the awards season. 2) Conservative trolls always come out of their holes in great numbers anytime a movie made by African-Americans or a performance by a black actor is awarded. Any anger over "Get Out" can probably be put down to being disturbed that superior white people didn't get the nom or the little statue. Hugh Jackman's performance in 'Logan' was far better than any of the performances in 'Get Out'.
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 7, 2017 19:22:53 GMT
No, because: 1) Logan wasn't much good in the first place. It doesn't belong in the awards season. 2) Conservative trolls always come out of their holes in great numbers anytime a movie made by African-Americans or a performance by a black actor is awarded. Any anger over "Get Out" can probably be put down to being disturbed that superior white people didn't get the nom or the little statue. Hugh Jackman's performance in 'Logan' was far better than any of the performances in 'Get Out'. I got to disagree with that assessment of Jackman's acting in Logan. It is a pretty standard character he creates; it is basically the Humphrey Bogart model of the loner who, in the beginning, stays out of moral and ethical battles and looks out only for himself ("I stick my neck out for nobody"), but, by the end of the film, is all in and committed to the good side. See Casablanca ('43), To Have and Have Not ('46), and Key Largo ('48) for starters. That plot is not too hard to write any more - or act.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 7, 2017 20:21:48 GMT
If anyone from 'Logan' gets a nod, I actually think it'd be Patrick Stewart.
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Post by jonesjxd on Dec 8, 2017 11:27:01 GMT
Get Out is more deserving.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 8, 2017 12:28:41 GMT
mikef6Nothing to do with trolls... but it's because of the minorities basically forcing/telling the academy to give them more awards just because they are minorities with all of the #OscarsSoWhite etc BS going on. basically it's politics involved which taints the "wins". or look at things in terms of odds... naturally black people (and other minorities) will win much less awards because there simply is much less of them in name movies than there are white people. if the situation was reversed the same would be true in that blacks would win and whites would generally lose. i think it's difficult for someone to argue against this line of reasoning. so now with those politics involved it basically lowers the quality of their 'wins' because instead of it being a win straight up, like was basically the case before they told people to give them more awards, it's now sorta forced and you never really know whether the win was legit or because of all of the recent politics drama. so it's like black wins are now tainted for years to come. like i would rather win a award straight up then basically forcing people to give you more awards because your a minority and then the win is not really a real win (unless they don't really care about the win and are more concerned with advancing their careers(?) and Oscars help with this(?)). hell, i could even apply this scenario to NBA basketball... it would be like me complaining that white guys rarely win MVP awards in the NBA and then forcing them to give us white people more MVP awards because of that. i would never do that simply because it would lower the quality of the white peoples wins that way. because when Steve Nash won back-to-back MVP awards in 2005 and 2006 it was legit because no one begged or was told to go that way as it just happened naturally. plus, black guys are going to win the vast majority of the MVP awards simply because they dominate the league. so i expect that to happen and don't have problem with it. so as you can see it's got nothing to do with 'conservative trolls' but sound reasoning.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 8, 2017 17:26:41 GMT
mikef6 Nothing to do with trolls... but it's because of the minorities basically forcing/telling the academy to give them more awards just because they are minorities with all of the #OscarsSoWhite etc BS going on. basically it's politics involved which taints the "wins". or look at things in terms of odds... naturally black people (and other minorities) will win much less awards because there simply is much less of them in name movies than there are white people. if the situation was reversed the same would be true in that blacks would win and whites would generally lose. i think it's difficult for someone to argue against this line of reasoning. so now with those politics involved it basically lowers the quality of their 'wins' because instead of it being a win straight up, like was basically the case before they told people to give them more awards, it's now sorta forced and you never really know whether the win was legit or because of all of the recent politics drama. so it's like black wins are now tainted for years to come. like i would rather win a award straight up then basically forcing people to give you more awards because your a minority and then the win is not really a real win (unless they don't really care about the win and are more concerned with advancing their careers(?) and Oscars help with this(?)). hell, i could even apply this scenario to NBA basketball... it would be like me complaining that white guys rarely win MVP awards in the NBA and then forcing them to give us white people more MVP awards because of that. i would never do that simply because it would lower the quality of the white peoples wins that way. because when Steve Nash won back-to-back MVP awards in 2005 and 2006 it was legit because no one begged or was told to go that way as it just happened naturally. plus, black guys are going to win the vast majority of the MVP awards simply because they dominate the league. so i expect that to happen and don't have problem with it. so as you can see it's got nothing to do with 'conservative trolls' but sound reasoning. I actually agree with you about the #OscarsSoWhite thing. But let's be honest, there are still some trolls that poison the discussion when they go out en force to disparage a given picture online or even downvote its IMDB profile if it's anything to do with black people.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 9, 2017 9:03:39 GMT
politicidalYeah, I realize that some troll on popular forums and all. but I never understood how someone can troll for years and years like some do. is it like newer generations taking over once the former trolls outgrow that crap? ; I just don't get the mindset of a troll as they just going around messing with people for basically no reason. it's just stupid and a waste of time. those who do that stuff for years and years, after a certain point (or age) they have to have serious personal issues.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Dec 9, 2017 9:13:29 GMT
No because Get Out is better than Logan.
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Dec 10, 2017 14:48:55 GMT
I love Get Out, but I don't think it is the kind of thing where performances are key, it is a plot driven story. The script and direction are very important. Get Out is great fun, sly, quirky, intelligent and subtle.
I liked Logan very much, it has tremendous heart. For Best Picture, maybe.
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Post by bd74 on Dec 13, 2017 18:40:22 GMT
I didn't see Logan but I did see Get Out and it was a major disappointment. Get Out's lead actor didn't do shit in the movie, but he's been getting award nominations left and right. For what? Why didn't they nominate James McAvoy in Split instead? I don't know why it's so hard for some people to believe that politics play a role in the Hollywood awards process. This is Hollywood we're talking about -- it LOVES to make a political or societal statement.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 13, 2017 18:43:08 GMT
No because Get Out is better than Logan.
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Dec 13, 2017 18:44:01 GMT
I don't know why it's so hard for some people to believe that politics play a role in the Hollywood awards process. This is Hollywood we're talking about -- it LOVES to make a political or societal statement.
Everything is a statement. But I think the lead actor's performance in Get Out was very good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 20:26:34 GMT
I didn't see Logan but I did see Get Out and it was a major disappointment. Get Out's lead actor didn't do shit in the movie, but he's been getting award nominations left and right. For what? Why didn't they nominate James McAvoy in Split instead? I don't know why it's so hard for some people to believe that politics play a role in the Hollywood awards process. This is Hollywood we're talking about -- it LOVES to make a political or societal statement. I didn't like 'Split' at all but I must admit, McAvoy was great in it.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Dec 14, 2017 1:07:03 GMT
No because Get Out is better than Logan. I haven’t seen Seinfeld.
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Post by miike80 on Jan 16, 2018 10:08:58 GMT
I didn't see Logan but I did see Get Out and it was a major disappointment. Get Out's lead actor didn't do shit in the movie, but he's been getting award nominations left and right. For what? Why didn't they nominate James McAvoy in Split instead? I don't know why it's so hard for some people to believe that politics play a role in the Hollywood awards process. This is Hollywood we're talking about -- it LOVES to make a political or societal statement. The dude from Get out was way better in the Black Mirror episode. And that episode was way better than Get Out
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Post by politicidal on Jan 16, 2018 17:06:53 GMT
I'm still surprised that it garnered almost no attention let alone awards at either the Globes or the CCA last week.
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