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Post by OldSamVimes on Dec 14, 2017 8:16:33 GMT
I believe that every single person should get a tattoo at some point in their life.
IMO getting tattooed is a fundamental human experience, like having sex or taking a large dose of psychedelic mushrooms. If you don't do it before you die, then you have missed out on an interesting part of life.
If you take your body seriously, you will suffer.
When you get a tattoo, it forces you to mentally recalibrate your mental image of yourself much more quickly than you have to for normal body changes associated with aging.
Your skin is broken. You feel endorphins. You are connected to your ancestors who did similar things thousands and thousands of years ago.
You remember that day like you remember your wedding day, it becomes a milestone.
In a strange way, the tattoo is more a part of you than your body. Your cells all change and all the biological material that makes up the body changes, like the water in a whirlpool, but the tattoo design remains. Interesting how everything the ink rests on can be replaced, how we are physically replaced without realizing it.
Also, as I get tattoos that are more visible to strangers it helps me to quickly identify judgemental rigid-minded people. Nothing makes me laugh more than seeing an uptight person look at me with an obvious expression of negative judgement.
Anyway.. thought I'd meditate on tattoos for a bit.
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Post by goz on Dec 14, 2017 8:21:00 GMT
I believe that every single person should get a tattoo at some point in their life. IMO getting tattooed is a fundamental human experience, like having sex or taking a large dose of psychedelic mushrooms. If you don't do it before you die, then you have missed out on an interesting part of life. If you take your body seriously, you will suffer. When you get a tattoo, it forces you to mentally recalibrate your mental image of yourself much more quickly than you have to for normal body changes associated with aging. Your skin is broken. You feel endorphins. You are connected to your ancestors who did similar things thousands and thousands of years ago. You remember that day like you remember your wedding day, it becomes a milestone. In a strange way, the tattoo is more a part of you than your body. Your cells all change and all the biological material that makes up the body changes, like the water in a whirlpool, but the tattoo design remains. Interesting how everything the ink rests on can be replaced, how we are physically replaced without realizing it. Also, as I get tattoos that are more visible to strangers it helps me to quickly identify judgemental rigid-minded people. Nothing makes me laugh more than seeing an uptight person look at me with an obvious expression of negative judgement. Anyway.. thought I'd meditate on tattoos for a bit. The choice of a permanent tattoo brands you for life. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Dec 14, 2017 8:26:33 GMT
The choice of a permanent tattoo brands you for life. There is no such thing as a permanent tattoo. That's another benefit some people get from getting tattooed, disidentification with the body. People who think 'This body is me' invariably suffer. |
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Post by goz on Dec 14, 2017 8:30:15 GMT
The choice of a permanent tattoo brands you for life. There is no such thing as a permanent tattoo. That's another benefit some people get from getting tattooed, disidentification with the body. People who think 'This body is me' invariably suffer. May I pose a proposition? Foe every tattoo that may cost a ....amount, it will cost a st!tload more to remove. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Dec 14, 2017 8:33:08 GMT
There is no such thing as a permanent tattoo. That's another benefit some people get from getting tattooed, disidentification with the body. People who think 'This body is me' invariably suffer. May I pose a proposition? Foe every tattoo that may cost a ....amount, it will cost a st!tload more to remove. Not only does it cost more to remove the tattoo, I hear it hurts more. Strange thing to do, since all you have to do is wait around for awhile and the tattoo will dissolve on it's own once your body is dead. |
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Post by goz on Dec 14, 2017 8:35:16 GMT
There is no such thing as a permanent tattoo. May I pose a proposition? Foe every tattoo that may cost a ....amount, it will cost a st!tload more to remove. Not only does it cost more to remove the tattoo, I hear it hurts more. Strange thing to do, since all you have to do is wait around for awhile and the tattoo will dissolve on it's own once your body is dead. Too true. |
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Post by gadreel on Dec 15, 2017 0:45:53 GMT
There is no such thing as a permanent tattoo. That's another benefit some people get from getting tattooed, disidentification with the body. People who think 'This body is me' invariably suffer. May I pose a proposition? Foe every tattoo that may cost a ....amount, it will cost a st!tload more to remove. Actually it is about the same cost these days. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 2:48:01 GMT
I believe that every single person should get a tattoo at some point in their life. And I believe that tattoos are inherently ugly disfigurements. So no thank you. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 15, 2017 8:06:57 GMT
I've got hot sauce for that. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Dec 15, 2017 10:57:47 GMT
I believe that every single person should get a tattoo at some point in their life. And I believe that tattoos are inherently ugly disfigurements. So no thank you. Thank you for being open and up front about judging others. Like I said, tattoos help to identify judgemental and 'uptight' people. It's one of the great things about them. You could wear a shirt that says 'Scowl if you're narrow-minded' and people would not comply as well or as readily as they do to tattoos. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 12:45:19 GMT
And I believe that tattoos are inherently ugly disfigurements. So no thank you. Thank you for being open and up front about judging others. Did I do that? I can't see any point where I did. I judged tattoos, not people. Ironic, because so far out of you and me, you are the only one who has cast a judgment on other people. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Dec 15, 2017 12:53:40 GMT
Thank you for being open and up front about judging others. Did I do that? I can't see any point where I did. I judged tattoos, not people. Ironic, because so far out of you and me, you are the only one who has cast a judgment on other people. " tattoos are inherently ugly disfigurements". -- Gee, I'm not judging the person, just the tattoo.. Never mind that the tattoo is now part of the person.Never mind that the person is the one that choose the tattoo to begin with. "How dare you judge me for judging others!" LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 13:09:58 GMT
Did I do that? I can't see any point where I did. I judged tattoos, not people. Ironic, because so far out of you and me, you are the only one who has cast a judgment on other people. " tattoos are inherently ugly disfigurements". -- Gee, I'm not judging the person, just the tattoo.. Never mind that the tattoo is now part of the person.No, it isn't. Ink does not become part of you just because it is on/in you. I don't judge people for making choices that I wouldn't make. I leave that to you. It's always notable when a person has to invent opinions that have not been expressed and assign them to somebody else in order to dismiss what he is saying. I take it as a sure sign that they have no argument against what he actually said and are unwilling to admit it. If you enjoy disfiguring yourself, more power to you. It's your skin, do as you please with it. But it's not for me, thank you. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Dec 15, 2017 13:14:24 GMT
"No, it isn't. Ink does not become part of you just because it is on/in you." ^I think tattooed people are in a better position to judge what it feels like to be tattooed than you are. Experience trumps uninformed opinion every time. "If you enjoy disfiguring yourself" Gee, don't know how I got the impression that you were being judgemental, lol. |
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Post by nausea on Dec 15, 2017 14:44:34 GMT
it spreads throughout the music industry ,you see it moer nad more in teh main stream
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 14:59:51 GMT
"No, it isn't. Ink does not become part of you just because it is on/in you." ^I think tattooed people are in a better position to judge what it feels like to be tattooed than you are. Very likely, but we weren't discussing what it feels like. We were discussing the actuality, and the actuality is that ink does not become a part of your body simply because you deposit it under your skin. Me neither. It seems like you're overly sensitive and not especially concerned with the truth with regards to tattoos, though, so that's probably it. |
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Post by You_Got_A_Stew_Goin_Baby on Dec 15, 2017 16:18:36 GMT
it spreads throughout the music industry ,you see it moer nad more in teh main stream So true. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Dec 15, 2017 16:27:42 GMT
"No, it isn't. Ink does not become part of you just because it is on/in you." ^I think tattooed people are in a better position to judge what it feels like to be tattooed than you are. Very likely, but we weren't discussing what it feels like. We were discussing the actuality, and the actuality is that ink does not become a part of your body simply because you deposit it under your skin. Me neither. It seems like you're overly sensitive and not especially concerned with the truth with regards to tattoos, though, so that's probably it. So someone who had never been tattooed is going to explain to everyone the 'actuality' of being tattooed. That's hilarious to me. So is the fact that you frame your opinion as a fact. Again, first hand experience trumps your opinion. You telling tattooed people what it means to be tattooed is like me telling black people what it's means being black. It's like anyone claiming authority about something they have no personal experience with. IMO that is a manifestation of narcissism. Hopefully, if I did that someone would tell me to pull my head out of my ass. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 17:32:09 GMT
Very likely, but we weren't discussing what it feels like. We were discussing the actuality, and the actuality is that ink does not become a part of your body simply because you deposit it under your skin. Me neither. It seems like you're overly sensitive and not especially concerned with the truth with regards to tattoos, though, so that's probably it. So someone who had never been tattooed is going to explain to everyone the 'actuality' of being tattooed. That's hilarious to me. So is the fact that you frame your opinion as a fact. Again, first hand experience trumps your opinion. *shrug* If you want to pretend that it becomes part of you, feel free. It really makes no difference to reality or to me. The fact that you're so determined to misstate every single thing I say demonstrates that you're talking bullshit. We both know that. It's obviously a sore point for you, and I have no desire to see you this upset so I'll leave it be. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 17:40:52 GMT
It's not really for me. I'm not very brave about having to endure pain, and I prefer an au naturelle look for my own body and that of others. I don't even have any idea what I would get as a tattoo if I were to get one.
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