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Post by Skaathar on Dec 17, 2017 8:42:06 GMT
The MCU constantly hires unknowns for major roles. I doubt they'd have issues hiring character actors. They cast unknowns at the beginning of the MCU when they didn't have a choice. They don't cast nobodies now. Thor, Loki, Warmachine, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Spiderman, Black Panther, Valkyrie, Falcon, Winter Soldier, Drax, Ant-man, Yondu, Nebula... all were played by relative unknowns. Or at least by actors who are not readily recognizable to the general public. Even Chris Pratt wasn't that recognizable a name. And that's not even including the villains. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 17, 2017 16:08:35 GMT
Two guys named Chris.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 17, 2017 16:29:57 GMT
They cast unknowns at the beginning of the MCU when they didn't have a choice. They don't cast nobodies now. Thor, Loki, Warmachine, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Spiderman, Black Panther, Valkyrie, Falcon, Winter Soldier, Drax, Ant-man, Yondu, Nebula... all were played by relative unknowns. Or at least by actors who are not readily recognizable to the general public. Even Chris Pratt wasn't that recognizable a name. And that's not even including the villains. Thor, Loki and War Machine were back at the beginning of the MCU. Paul Rudd was not an unknown, he's been around forever as a comedic lead which is exactly what he was in Ant-Man. Regardless, do any of these characters have the notoriety of Magneto with the general public? Only Spider-Man-- and they needed a fresh face which was the whole point in the direction they were going with that character. Terrible argument.
The villains usually aren't nobodies either, so it's a good thing you didn't try listing them as well. Jeff Bridges was the villain in the first MCU film! Are you going to say Hugo Weaving was a nobody when he was cast? Academy award nominee Mickey Rourke? Robert Redford? Guy Pearce? Ben Kingsley? Let me know when the nobodies show up. I guess you're going to try to sell Ronan as a character of equal stature to Magneto.
So yeah, considering where the MCU is now in terms of poularity, there's no way they cast a
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 17, 2017 16:32:03 GMT
I would call Chris Evans an unknown back then compared to now. And Hemsworth was definitely an unknown. Regardless my point still stands, no way the MCU casts an unknown to the role of Magneto now. RDJ was box office poison when he got cast aa Stark I would say it was more risky with him than an unknown. Stars are becoming a thing of the past Favreau fought the studio to get RDJ, and again that was the beginning of the MCU when the entire venture was a risk. Now more than ever stars are joining the MCU, what parallel universe are you living in? |
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 17, 2017 17:54:50 GMT
Thor, Loki, Warmachine, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Spiderman, Black Panther, Valkyrie, Falcon, Winter Soldier, Drax, Ant-man, Yondu, Nebula... all were played by relative unknowns. Or at least by actors who are not readily recognizable to the general public. Even Chris Pratt wasn't that recognizable a name. And that's not even including the villains. Thor, Loki and War Machine were back at the beginning of the MCU. Paul Rudd was not an unknown, he's been around forever as a comedic lead which is exactly what he was in Ant-Man. Regardless, do any of these characters have the notoriety of Magneto with the general public? Only Spider-Man-- and they needed a fresh face which was the whole point in the direction they were going with that character. Terrible argument.
The villains usually aren't nobodies either, so it's a good thing you didn't try listing them as well. Jeff Bridges was the villain in the first MCU film! Are you going to say Hugo Weaving was a nobody when he was cast? Academy award nominee Mickey Rourke? Robert Redford? Guy Pearce? Ben Kingsley? Let me know when the nobodies show up. I guess you're going to try to sell Ronan as a character of equal stature to Magneto.
So yeah, considering where the MCU is now in terms of poularity, there's no way they cast a
So you addressed Thor, Loki, Warmachine and Antman but then ignored the rest? Your original argument is that the MCU only cast unknowns during their beginning. I just proved to you that majority of the characters they cast till present day were still mostly unknowns, then you try to slip around it by saying they don't count because they're not notorious? Of course they're not as famous as Magneto, all of the MCU gallery were never A listers before the MCU made them one, but it didn't stop the MCU from making them all loved anyway. The first time the MCU got their hands on an A-lister they proved they had no issues casting an unknown (Spiderman). You can say they only did that to Spiderman because they needed a fresh face but in the end that's only your excuse. That reasoning can apply to nearly every MCU character and Magneto and the rest of the X-men would be no exception. You can make excuses for them all you want, bottom line is the MCU has a history of casting unknowns. In fact other than RDJ, Bradley Cooper and Benedict Cumberbatch, pretty much every lead character they've cast was given to a non-lead actor at the time they gave it to them. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Dec 17, 2017 20:39:46 GMT
RDJ was box office poison when he got cast aa Stark I would say it was more risky with him than an unknown. Stars are becoming a thing of the past Favreau fought the studio to get RDJ, and again that was the beginning of the MCU when the entire venture was a risk. Now more than ever stars are joining the MCU, what parallel universe are you living in? It was still a Risk regardless. What stars? Edward Norton is the only to come to mind who was Star and he jumped thr ship |
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Dec 19, 2017 8:49:31 GMT
They cast unknowns at the beginning of the MCU when they didn't have a choice. They don't cast nobodies now. Thor, Loki, Warmachine, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Spiderman, Black Panther, Valkyrie, Falcon, Winter Soldier, Drax, Ant-man, Yondu, Nebula... all were played by relative unknowns. Or at least by actors who are not readily recognizable to the general public. Even Chris Pratt wasn't that recognizable a name. And that's not even including the villains. I feel like Paul Rudd was pretty well known before Ant-Man. |
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 19, 2017 16:48:38 GMT
Thor, Loki, Warmachine, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Spiderman, Black Panther, Valkyrie, Falcon, Winter Soldier, Drax, Ant-man, Yondu, Nebula... all were played by relative unknowns. Or at least by actors who are not readily recognizable to the general public. Even Chris Pratt wasn't that recognizable a name. And that's not even including the villains. I feel like Paul Rudd was pretty well known before Ant-Man. Not for a blockbuster lead he wasn't. |
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Dec 23, 2017 23:31:37 GMT
I feel like Paul Rudd was pretty well known before Ant-Man. Not for a blockbuster lead he wasn't. That's true. That's not what you said though. You said they all weren't well known which Paul Rudd was not an unknown at all. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 9, 2018 12:36:16 GMT
I'm surprised that Nexus didn't pick Kay Dennings for Magneto or Xavier.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 9, 2018 13:40:13 GMT
Not for a blockbuster lead he wasn't. That's true. That's not what you said though. You said they all weren't well known which Paul Rudd was not an unknown at all. Neither is Stephen Lang that unknown. |
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