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Post by novastar6 on Dec 15, 2017 22:07:05 GMT
Not My 600 Pound Life, this goes back a few years before that. It was a one time thing that featured a few obese people, the main one a woman who talked about her body is pear shaped which in some instances is easier to do stuff as opposed to an apple shape. They had someone talking about historically speaking people weren't fat and didn't get to this size, and to emphasize they had footage of people at a costume party dressed like cavemen.
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Post by deembastille on Dec 17, 2017 5:06:50 GMT
well, even in renaissance paintings they always painted the women as 'healthy' [husky, fluffy, DAMN!] and the men with SOME MUSCLE but not 'ripped'. no one was a size -2 and no one questioned how much fat was in that strawberry.
and in real life, back then until the industrial age... people weren't obese to the point of not being able to move because they worked. they worked their bodies. they dug in the fields, they built the houses, they stoked the furnaces, they kneaded the dough, they beat the rugs, they scrubbed the carpet with the sweeper, they blacked the grating, they scrubbed the marble stone, they scrubbed the pots, they turned the crank to wring the water out of the linens, they pulled the taffy, they climbed on top of machines to fix them. PEOPLE WORKED!
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Post by novastar6 on Dec 17, 2017 8:06:08 GMT
Interestingly enough I'm reading the book Supersize vs. Superskinny by Dr. Christian Jessen who also hosted the TV show of that name, and he makes a few similar points. One, when more people were farmers and there wasn't as much industry, and there weren't machines to do all the manual work for them, the everyday mundane repetitive tasks everybody did is what kept them in shape. Also, he too points on the old paintings of full figured women whose fat rolls were looked highly upon, AND also points out the male physique many aspire after originates back to the statue of David, but if you examine the statue you see he too is disproportionate, the right hand isn't the same size as the left, and his head and neck are far too big to accurately fit his perfect body. So both sexes have spent many generations chasing ideals that can never realistically be achieved, men and David, women and Barbie.
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Post by sagenesse on Jan 4, 2018 6:47:11 GMT
well, even in renaissance paintings they always painted the women as 'healthy' [husky, fluffy, DAMN!] and the men with SOME MUSCLE but not 'ripped'. no one was a size -2 and no one questioned how much fat was in that strawberry. and in real life, back then until the industrial age... people weren't obese to the point of not being able to move because they worked. they worked their bodies. they dug in the fields, they built the houses, they stoked the furnaces, they kneaded the dough, they beat the rugs, they scrubbed the carpet with the sweeper, they blacked the grating, they scrubbed the marble stone, they scrubbed the pots, they turned the crank to wring the water out of the linens, they pulled the taffy, they climbed on top of machines to fix them. PEOPLE WORKED! You make a good point. I love reading books about the Amish. They work just like this and many are not thin. They are full figured and healthy. Most interesting at least to me is they don’t have many allergies or mental disorders such as ADD or ADHD. I’ve heard many speculate that it’s due to their chemical free foods and/or just their active life style. I’m not sure. Another interesting fact is they avoid prescription medication if at all possible same with over the counter and lean more to natural medication. We’ve actually casually met a few Amish people at an all natural clinic where we went for treatment for my sick daughter.
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Post by deembastille on Jan 4, 2018 11:09:55 GMT
well, even in renaissance paintings they always painted the women as 'healthy' [husky, fluffy, DAMN!] and the men with SOME MUSCLE but not 'ripped'. no one was a size -2 and no one questioned how much fat was in that strawberry. and in real life, back then until the industrial age... people weren't obese to the point of not being able to move because they worked. they worked their bodies. they dug in the fields, they built the houses, they stoked the furnaces, they kneaded the dough, they beat the rugs, they scrubbed the carpet with the sweeper, they blacked the grating, they scrubbed the marble stone, they scrubbed the pots, they turned the crank to wring the water out of the linens, they pulled the taffy, they climbed on top of machines to fix them. PEOPLE WORKED! You make a good point. I love reading books about the Amish. They work just like this and many are not thin. They are full figured and healthy. Most interesting at least to me is they don’t have many allergies or mental disorders such as ADD or ADHD. I’ve heard many speculate that it’s due to their chemical free foods and/or just their active life style. I’m not sure. Another interesting fact is they avoid prescription medication if at all possible same with over the counter and lean more to natural medication. We’ve actually casually met a few Amish people at an all natural clinic where we went for treatment for my sick daughter. OMG, add/ADHD are NOT mental disorders! Disabilities, yes. In fact ADHD is a learning disability on it's own whereas add by itself is not.
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