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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 22, 2017 18:05:29 GMT
So, roughly the same amount of white male heroes as the OT? Luke, Han, and Old Ben. Seems the Disney movies simply have more characters in general. Ok dude, whatever you say. I mean, I'm only repeating what you said, brah. The Disney films have two white male heroes (and that's only discounting Oscar Isaac, who you wouldn't even know was hispanic without the internet). The OT had a mere one more. Am I wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 18:35:47 GMT
THREE movies in 3 years is overkill. The previous trilogies where stretch over 9 years each. And yes ROGUE ONE is STILL a star wars movie.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 22, 2017 19:24:00 GMT
I'm the biggest SW purist you'll find and I'm done with being mind raped. Star Wars is no longer a big event movie for me, just a Red Box or library rental. But you're still gonna watch it so you're still a fan. What difference does it make that you don't pay for it? Star Wars is still IN YOUR MIND. They got you, buddy. They got you. They got us all...
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 22, 2017 19:24:37 GMT
56% Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score for The Last Jedi, what a disgrace Meaningless data. More relevant is the Cinemascore of A. At least in the case of that rating, we a) know they have actually seen the movie and b) only voted once. We know nothing of the sort with RT or IMDB ratings by users, which is why they mean absolutely nothing. ^^^THIS!!!^^^ SO this
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 22, 2017 19:35:22 GMT
Ok dude, whatever you say. I mean, I'm only repeating what you said, brah. The Disney films have two white male heroes (and that's only discounting Oscar Isaac, who you wouldn't even know was hispanic without the internet). The OT had a mere one more. Am I wrong? No, you're deliberately ignoring your own point. That the new films have bigger casts. No new character except villains are white men, the only two white male heroes are dead. Rogue One had an ensemble cast with no white men in it, except the villain and a CGI OT character. Name the white men that have speaking roles in TJL? Luke, Hux, Kylo.....? Of the first 20 cast members 8 are white men, the previously mentioned three and then the voices of Yoda, Snoke, and then Chewie, R2 and C-3PO. So three actually onscreen. And don't blame me because Americans are so racist they count Hispanics as non white.
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 22, 2017 19:38:47 GMT
Meaningless data. More relevant is the Cinemascore of A. At least in the case of that rating, we a) know they have actually seen the movie and b) only voted once. We know nothing of the sort with RT or IMDB ratings by users, which is why they mean absolutely nothing. ^^^THIS!!!^^^ SO this Not really. How many people are actually polled? Plus they don't operate outside North America.
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Post by johnspartan on Dec 22, 2017 20:44:28 GMT
I'm the biggest SW purist you'll find and I'm done with being mind raped. Star Wars is no longer a big event movie for me, just a Red Box or library rental. But you're still gonna watch it so you're still a fan. What difference does it make that you don't pay for it? Star Wars is still IN YOUR MIND. They got you, buddy. They got you. They got us all... If thousands of fans followed my lead, Disney wouldn't get their precious box office numbers and understand something needs to improve.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 22, 2017 21:07:49 GMT
But you're still gonna watch it so you're still a fan. What difference does it make that you don't pay for it? Star Wars is still IN YOUR MIND. They got you, buddy. They got you. They got us all... If thousands of fans followed my lead, Disney wouldn't get their precious box office numbers and understand something needs to improve. Never happen. Its Star Wars. Logic doesn't fall into it.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 22, 2017 21:15:46 GMT
I mean, I'm only repeating what you said, brah. The Disney films have two white male heroes (and that's only discounting Oscar Isaac, who you wouldn't even know was hispanic without the internet). The OT had a mere one more. Am I wrong? No, you're deliberately ignoring your own point. That the new films have bigger casts. No new character except villains are white men, the only two white male heroes are dead. Rogue One had an ensemble cast with no white men in it, except the villain and a CGI OT character. Name the white men that have speaking roles in TJL? Luke, Hux, Kylo.....? Of the first 20 cast members 8 are white men, the previously mentioned three and then the voices of Yoda, Snoke, and then Chewie, R2 and C-3PO. So three actually onscreen. And don't blame me because Americans are so racist they count Hispanics as non white.Hey mate, if you're so enlightened then there's your white man right there. Not to mention Luna in Rogue One. Speaking of Rogue One, the most important hero in that movie is the one who built the Death Star to be easily blown up - a white man. Not that I would ever accuse you of being enlightened. How many blacks had speaking roles in A New Hope? Asians in ROTJ? Arabs in Attack of the Clones? Are there even women in Empire besides Leia? Seclusion is only an issue to you now because they're giving other people something to do in these movies, and even then, the top billed actors in both episodes have been white men. Yet here you sit whining.
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 22, 2017 23:36:27 GMT
No, you're deliberately ignoring your own point. That the new films have bigger casts. No new character except villains are white men, the only two white male heroes are dead. Rogue One had an ensemble cast with no white men in it, except the villain and a CGI OT character. Name the white men that have speaking roles in TJL? Luke, Hux, Kylo.....? Of the first 20 cast members 8 are white men, the previously mentioned three and then the voices of Yoda, Snoke, and then Chewie, R2 and C-3PO. So three actually onscreen. And don't blame me because Americans are so racist they count Hispanics as non white.Hey mate, if you're so enlightened then there's your white man right there. Not to mention Luna in Rogue One. Speaking of Rogue One, the most important hero in that movie is the one who built the Death Star to be easily blown up - a white man. Not that I would ever accuse you of being enlightened. How many blacks had speaking roles in A New Hope? Asians in ROTJ? Arabs in Attack of the Clones? Are there even women in Empire besides Leia? Seclusion is only an issue to you now because they're giving other people something to do in these movies, and even then, the top billed actors in both episodes have been white men. Yet here you sit whining. Lol Okay mate. Do you want to tell us the demographics of the US in 1977? Do you even want to compare the USA nine years after the Civil Rights movement to 2017? How many Arabs actors do you know of? Look again at your examples. Luna, half Mexican and Mads Mikkelsen, who had about four lines. Its actually baffling to me that you cannot see how forced and obvious this is. Leia gets hurts, so the only commander with speaking lines, a woman, announces the new leader is...another woman. While the black guy meets the Asian to go on a mission given to them by the Hispanic where they meet another Hispanic.
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Post by HorrorMetal on May 17, 2018 19:20:58 GMT
I said the same thing when I saw Phantom Menace and actually followed through with it with the next two, but I've seen every other Star Wars movie at the theater.
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Post by Terrapin Station on May 17, 2018 19:23:48 GMT
I'm the biggest SW purist you'll find. Well that's unfortunate. Good riddance i suppose then.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 19:51:40 GMT
They should re-release all the first 3 in theaters.
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Post by johnspartan on May 17, 2018 20:03:44 GMT
Boycott Soylo:A Soy Boy Story so we can get Kathleen Kennedy fired.
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Post by ck100 on May 17, 2018 20:04:53 GMT
Boycott Soylo:A Soy Boy Story so we can get Kathleen Kennedy fired. As long as the movies make money, she's not going anywhere. Star Wars guarantees money.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 20:06:12 GMT
Boycott Soylo:A Soy Boy Story so we can get Kathleen Kennedy fired. This made me chuckle a bit. He does look a bit like a soy boy doesn't he?
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Post by vegalyra on May 17, 2018 20:22:47 GMT
The objective for Disney is to make lots of money. They don't care about the fans, they don't care about tradition (to an extent), and they certainly don't care if people are upset if they are cashing in on the present politically correct movement to bash white males. My opinion is the only way to make things right, is if Disney actually remasters the original cuts of the first 3 films without all of the Lucas tampering from the special editions. I'm fine with removing artifacts due to the limitations of late 1970's and early 1980's technology but all of the garbage that was digitally inserted has to go. That being said, I'm on the fence about supporting Disney with any more of my cash for their future films. TLJ's utter disregard for Luke burned me.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 17, 2018 21:25:11 GMT
Boycott Soylo:A Soy Boy Story so we can get Kathleen Kennedy fired. This made me chuckle a bit. He does look a bit like a soy boy doesn't he? I don't know what a soy boy is.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 21:31:56 GMT
This made me chuckle a bit. He does look a bit like a soy boy doesn't he? I don't know what a soy boy is. watch both of these and you'll know!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 21:33:06 GMT
This made me chuckle a bit. He does look a bit like a soy boy doesn't he? I don't know what a soy boy is. watch both of these and you'll know!
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