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Post by snsurone on Dec 18, 2017 21:31:14 GMT
She was a beautiful woman and a very good dancer, but most critics claimed that she was a poor actress, which is why she never became a major star.
I disagree; IMHO, she was a better actress than, say, Cyd Charisse!
I loved her in MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS, and in ZIEGFELD FOLLIES, especially in the "Limehouse Blues" sequence with Fred Astaire.
I admit she wasn't all that great in YOLANDA AND THE THIEF, but I believe that film had a poor screenplay, and was more concerned with its dance numbers and surrealistic backgrounds than with actual performances.
I wonder how she would have fared on early TV variety shows. Who knows, maybe she might have had a series of her own.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 19, 2017 0:06:31 GMT
Skipping over the part about beauty (for which everyone has their own standards), I can't find any disagreement with what you say about Bremer...or Charisse, for that matter. What I saw in Charisse that I didn't in Bremer, however, was screen presence, or "star quality," if you like. Not only is that also subjective, it's indefinable. As Katherine Hepburn said about the subject, "I have no idea what it is, but whatever it is, I've got it."
As a personality, the word I'd apply to Bremer is "gossamer," which she tended to overcome only when doing the thing she did with the most authority: dance. Otherwise, she exhibited a wispiness onscreen that gave an impression that she'd vanish in a strong breeze.
Meet Me In St. Louis really gave her very little to do, and only an actress possessing the hard-to-come-by combination of innocence and subtle comic ability encompassing both farce and satire could have pulled off the impossibly naive and gullible nature of her Yolanda role. Perhaps that's the reason I found her non-dancing work in Till the Clouds Roll By, as Van Heflin's daughter (or was she his niece; I can't recall) with the star complex who expected instant success, to be her most compelling. It was a role that had some fire and spirit to it.
No other studio's star-making apparatus reflected the volume MGM's did at its height, when they could afford the half-dozen unsuccessful attempts to each one that clicked. As the leaner years of the mid-late '40s descended, that ratio decreased, rendering misfires like Bremer's or Tom Drake's more notable (and those rumors about Arthur Freed's "special personal interest," to put it delicately, in Bremer persist).
In an unusually philosophical mood late one night, Columbia founder Harry Cohn mused to writer-director Garson Kanin, "Only the public can make a star." To which Kanin sympathetically replied, "Only God can make a tree."
Cohn thundered, "What?!?"
"It's from a Joyce Kilmer poem," Kanin told him. "Poems are made by fools like me, but only God can make a tree."
"Bullsh&@," Cohn exploded. "My studio can make the best goddam tree you ever saw!"
Waiting a moment, Kanin then said gently, "But not a star."
Turning pensive again, Cohn shook his head and repeated quietly, "But not a star."
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Post by kijii on Dec 19, 2017 0:16:17 GMT
I actually liked YOLANDA AND THE THIEF. It is pure musical fantasy. Some of the dance numbers in this movie (with Fred Astaire) are quite good. Look at the floor in this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq73SnWShxE(See how the Swing of the mid 40s is used here to give a cute effect.) If you add the character scenes of Frank Morgan and the comedy of Mildred Natwick, it turns out to be an OK musical fantasy. I also enjoyed seeing Lucille Bremer get a starring role in a Vincente Minnelli musical. Here's the trailer: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mjZsO9Kokc
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 19, 2017 1:05:08 GMT
kijii My remarks above about Lucille Bremer notwithstanding, I, too, am a fan of Yolanda (ditto Minnelli's next colorful musical fantasy, The Pirate, in which the tongue-in-cheek tone emerged perhaps more successfully). The complex, counterpoint metres cooked up by Astaire and arranger Lennie Hayton for the Warren/Freed "Coffee Time" number are a highlight and still fascinatingly hypnotic, abetted by the recreation of Copacabana Beach's iconic tiled sidewalk.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 19, 2017 1:33:00 GMT
The Bubbly Ms. Bremer 
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Dec 19, 2017 1:37:54 GMT
Also enjoyed Yolanda and the Thief....the Technicolor in that film was excellent, with everything in the film looking like candy.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 19, 2017 2:05:09 GMT
The Bubbly Ms. Bremer  That scene features one of the screenplay's more subtly sly bits of dialogue. Intercepting the call, Yolanda's maid announces that she's unavailable. "Oh, please, let me take it," Yolanda protests. Clapping a hand over the mouthpiece, the maid warns, "It's a man!"Yolanda replies, "But that's something I've always wanted....to talk on a telephone."
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 19, 2017 2:17:34 GMT
Doghouse6Gotta admit when I saw the THREAD TITLE , I thought along the line of "Now who in Hel heck is THAT? With the recommendations of Doghouse6 and kijii and Matthew the Swordsman and those great video clips, it does look worth looking into. Love the sidewalk and the quote ! AND this poster :  Seems to be mostly clips and trailers on ewe tube. 
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Post by snsurone on Dec 19, 2017 14:45:40 GMT
Where's Waldo?
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 19, 2017 15:00:03 GMT
Any weaknesses aside, it's still worthwhile if you like Astaire (who doesn't?), a touch of whimsy and a bold sense of design.     Mildred Natwick as Yolanda's garrulous and scatterbrained aunt is priceless ( "Conchita, I want you to do my nails immediately. And bring them to me in my room.")
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 19, 2017 15:07:17 GMT
Doghouse6 = Charter member of Whimsical-R-Us and Musical-Whimsey is even better than the plain variety.
Mildred Natwick  in anything and everything. BTW ... Did you know that she is the cousin of artist Grim Natwick... Betty Boop's "father"
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 19, 2017 15:24:08 GMT
Mildred Natwick  in anything and everything. BTW ... Did you know that she is the cousin of artist Grim Natwick... Betty Boop's "father" I don't believe I did, but I'm very happy to now!
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Post by kijii on Dec 19, 2017 15:42:32 GMT
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Post by snsurone on Dec 19, 2017 15:55:54 GMT
She was also great as Rock Hudson's mother in McMILLAN AND WIFE.
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