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Post by Eλευθερί on Dec 26, 2017 6:24:03 GMT
Just rewatched Prometheus the other day.
Still don't understand it.
Would watching Alien: Covenant explain it?
Who was the Engineer, and why was he so hostile toward the Earthlings?
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Post by anthonyrocks on Dec 26, 2017 6:28:09 GMT
Just rewatched Prometheus the other day. Still don't understand it. Would watching Alien: Covenant explain it? Who was the Engineer, and why was he so hostile toward the Earthlings? " ALIEN: COVENANT" is really more about The Crew of the Ship "Covenant", The Android David, What Happened to Him and Shaw after " PROMETHEUS", and the Alien. |
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Post by ck100 on Dec 26, 2017 6:28:31 GMT
Doesn't the hostility tie with what David says about "To create, one must first destroy"?
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 26, 2017 6:39:19 GMT
It's purposely vague. That is part of it's appeal for me.
They all assume that their creators would love them and answer their questions, but they were wrong. Their creators don't care about them at all and THAT is the point of that scene. It's a "curiosity killed the cat" type situation.
David asks the same question about us creating him. "Why do you think human's created me" he asks and the other guy answers "because we could."
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Post by Eλευθερί on Dec 26, 2017 7:30:32 GMT
Doesn't the hostility tie with what David says about "To create, one must first destroy"? It's purposely vague. That is part of it's appeal for me. They all assume that their creators would love them and answer their questions, but they were wrong. Their creators don't care about them at all and THAT is the point of that scene. It's a "curiosity killed the cat" type situation. David asks the same question about us creating him. "Why do you think human's created me" he asks and the other guy answers "because we could." Those all seem very likely. But the ambiguity-to-the-nth-degree is what I find very unsatisfying about the experience. We are just left wondering. Because while those possibilities could be true, they might also be completely off-base, and we'll never know. Similarly, one of the astronauts declares that the planet turns out to be just some sort of biological warfare experiment site. Seems likely. Except that that hypothesis could be completely wrong. We'll never know. Those snake-like creatures could be other life-forms that the Engineers created. Or they could have been the native species of the planet that were there before the Engineers arrived. We'll never know. The title Prometheus and the decapitated remains they find suggest that the Engineer was a renegade among its own kind. But, again, we'll never know ...  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 10:57:40 GMT
Prometheus is a mess. Mainly because it was written by one of the tv series Lost producers who is infamous for writing incoherent mystery plots.
There is an extended scene of the crew waking up the engineer that slightly explains better why he attacked them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 12:33:12 GMT
It's about life and all its various wonders. Incidentally, life is also the the name of another movie about monsters in outer space.
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Post by outrider127 on Dec 26, 2017 13:30:13 GMT
Loved the last 30 minutes of the movie
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Post by kingkoopa on Dec 26, 2017 15:49:49 GMT
I'm hot and cold on this movie. It was very well cast and is visually stunning most of the time. No problems there. The premise was set up very well, but I could not get over how stupidly the first two characters to get in trouble were written. The action climax was pretty cool, but it seemed to undermine the bigger sci-fi questions this movie started to pose. I agree with moviemouth on being alright with the vagueness of it. The questions it addressed were so big that it would be pretty impossible to completely explain them without being preachy. The action, though I liked it, got in the way a little for me...and none of it would have had to happen if those first two 'scientists' weren't acting like idiots. Overall, if they didn't play so heavily that this was an "Alien" prequel, I think it would have been much better received. It's a different story in the same universe for me. I didn't hate "Covenant" but I was hoping to learn a little more about the engineers and that lore after "Prometheus." |
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Post by politicidal on Dec 26, 2017 16:24:55 GMT
I remember Ridley Scott said in an interview that the Engineers hated humanity because we killed Jesus Christ who was actually an Engineer himself. It's hokey but it's better than nothing.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Dec 26, 2017 16:59:24 GMT
Prometheus is a mess. Mainly because it was written by one of the tv series Lost producers who is infamous for writing incoherent mystery plots. There is an extended scene of the crew waking up the engineer that slightly explains better why he attacked them. He didn't write incoherent plot points for LOST. For that matter, this movie was not confusing. It just wasn't the greatest movie and there was also pent up Alien demand that this movie never meant to address. I've seen worse sci-fi movies including much of the Alien franchise at this point. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 17:44:26 GMT
Prometheus is a mess. Mainly because it was written by one of the tv series Lost producers who is infamous for writing incoherent mystery plots. There is an extended scene of the crew waking up the engineer that slightly explains better why he attacked them. He didn't write incoherent plot points for LOST. LOL. Damon Lindelof is one of the biggest writing hacks in Hollywood. His style was apparent all over Prometheus. He wrote Prometheus into a hole that Covenant couldn't dig its way out. |
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Post by ravi02 on Dec 26, 2017 17:49:09 GMT
I don't understand it much either due to characters behaving stupidly due to a terrible script.
This was one of the most disappointing films in recent memory for me. I looked forward to Ridley Scott returning to R-rated sci-fi/horror and exploring the origins of the Alien universe. What we got instead was a bland retread of Alien with forgettable characters.
At least the visuals were nice and Michael Fassbinder was good.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jan 14, 2018 1:23:42 GMT
I don't understand it much either due to characters behaving stupidly due to a terrible script. This was one of the most disappointing films in recent memory for me. I looked forward to Ridley Scott returning to R-rated sci-fi/horror and exploring the origins of the Alien universe. What we got instead was a bland retread of Alien with forgettable characters. At least the visuals were nice and Michael Fassbinder was good. Since we're discussing stupid flaws in sci-fi films, one of the biggest flaws in Prometheus is that these crew members agreed to go on a deep-space expedition without knowing exactly what the mission entailed. They don't find out until they have actually reached their destination. WTF?  |
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Post by politicidal on Jan 14, 2018 1:26:13 GMT
It's about life and all its various wonders. Incidentally, life is also the the name of another movie about monsters in outer space. Also happens to be a really really bad Alien ripoff. I mean, sure at least it's rated R but not once was I scared of the creature or intrigued by the story. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 1:27:39 GMT
Congratulations to OP for the fortitude to sit through this turkey a second time. I couldn't do it.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 14, 2018 4:55:09 GMT
A- I liked it & glad it exists.
Covenant is a bastard child, & I'd accept if was told it was Ridley sabotaging the studio demands.
An engineer of the ilk the Nostromo crew stumbled across in Alien, that's who me meet, that's cool. Everyone all uppity about the crew in Prometheus dying off & being unprofessional... they were meat for the grinder, so Weyland could get his mitts on the alien holy grail stuff.
2012 feels so long ago.
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Post by salomonj on Jan 17, 2018 4:01:10 GMT
I remember Ridley Scott said in an interview that the Engineers hated humanity because we killed Jesus Christ who was actually an Engineer himself. It's hokey but it's better than nothing. Wtf I actually like that explanation. Like it's hokey but pretty interesting nonetheless. |
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jan 17, 2018 13:59:26 GMT
LOL, I actually liked "ALIEN: COVENANT".
I was Very Glad and Happy to see the Aliens once again. I really wish that they had been in "PROMETHEUS" instead of that Protomorph Monster. The closest thing that we really got to the Aliens in that movie was the GIANT Facehugger that got the Space Jockey.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 17, 2018 21:28:22 GMT
Just rewatched Prometheus the other day. Still don't understand it.
I don't understand why. Its not the greatest movie, but its not hard to understand.
Would watching Alien: Covenant explain it?
Nope.
Who was the Engineer, and why was he so hostile toward the Earthlings?
Which engineer? If you mean in beginning of the movie, I don't think he was being hostile. I think it was an experiment that went wrong. If you mean the one that they woke up at the end of the movie, then I think he saw humans as specimens in need of killing, much like we would see one of the face huggers as something that should be killed.
I hope that helped.
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