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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 29, 2017 6:37:45 GMT
I honestly think Homecoming is the worst. At ASM2 had potential Agreed. SMH is the worst movie adaptation of Spider-Man ever.
SMH's shallow and uninspiring portrayal of Spider-Man's motivations make SMH the worst movie adaptation of Spider-Man ever. Without outright mentioning Uncle Ben's death, Peter being Spider-Man is reduced to a simple show-off. There's nothing driving him other than wanting to look cool and impress Tony Stark - and that's a shallow reason which betrays his true comic origins.
Superman is shown by Jor-El how he can unite the human and Kryptonian species and bring hope to Earth. Batman is driven by the death of his parents and vows to do everything in his power to stop crime in Gotham. Wonder Woman feels that it's her duty to end war and bring peace to Mankind.
Those are noble reasons which are inspiring. Spider-Man is in 1 of the 4 most iconic comic-book superheroes along with Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. But his motivation for being Spider-Man in Homecoming isn't because he believes he has a "great responsibility" to use his powers for good (as he learned from his failure to prevent Uncle Ben's death when he could've) but simply because he's hoping to get a reply from Happy Hogan.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 29, 2017 8:21:57 GMT
You mean like when Electro randomly lashed out on a guy in his imagination for dissing Spider-Man? Or the Beavis looking Green Goblin? Or the cartoon-y scientist? Tinker telling Vulture that Indians are Native Americans Montana's death The ending Ned saying hes watching porn Peter gets trapped in the warehouse. I can go on I don't get the hate for Harrys look in ASM til about the 2000s Harry looked like a creepy motherfucker,then they gave him a more pretty boy look I'll take any of the jokes in SMH over what we got in TASM 2 any day, because they are better executed and feel organic. Because Harry looked like a hybrid of Beavis and Butt-Head in the movie, c'mon dude look - link
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 29, 2017 8:24:08 GMT
I honestly think Homecoming is the worst. At ASM2 had potential Agreed. SMH is the worst movie adaptation of Spider-Man ever.
SMH's shallow and uninspiring portrayal of Spider-Man's motivations make SMH the worst movie adaptation of Spider-Man ever. Without outright mentioning Uncle Ben's death, Peter being Spider-Man is reduced to a simple show-off. There's nothing driving him other than wanting to look cool and impress Tony Stark - and that's a shallow reason which betrays his true comic origins.
Superman is shown by Jor-El how he can unite the human and Kryptonian species and bring hope to Earth. Batman is driven by the death of his parents and vows to do everything in his power to stop crime in Gotham. Wonder Woman feels that it's her duty to end war and bring peace to Mankind.
Those are noble reasons which are inspiring. Spider-Man is in 1 of the 4 most iconic comic-book superheroes along with Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. But his motivation for being Spider-Man in Homecoming isn't because he believes he has a "great responsibility" to use his powers for good (as he learned from his failure to prevent Uncle Ben's death when he could've) but simply because he's hoping to get a reply from Happy Hogan.
Blah, blah, blah...Same song and dance and guess what? You've been owned by basically everybody about this on several occasions as it is. Get new material.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 29, 2017 15:20:17 GMT
Agreed. SMH is the worst movie adaptation of Spider-Man ever.
SMH's shallow and uninspiring portrayal of Spider-Man's motivations make SMH the worst movie adaptation of Spider-Man ever. Without outright mentioning Uncle Ben's death, Peter being Spider-Man is reduced to a simple show-off. There's nothing driving him other than wanting to look cool and impress Tony Stark - and that's a shallow reason which betrays his true comic origins.
Superman is shown by Jor-El how he can unite the human and Kryptonian species and bring hope to Earth. Batman is driven by the death of his parents and vows to do everything in his power to stop crime in Gotham. Wonder Woman feels that it's her duty to end war and bring peace to Mankind.
Those are noble reasons which are inspiring. Spider-Man is in 1 of the 4 most iconic comic-book superheroes along with Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. But his motivation for being Spider-Man in Homecoming isn't because he believes he has a "great responsibility" to use his powers for good (as he learned from his failure to prevent Uncle Ben's death when he could've) but simply because he's hoping to get a reply from Happy Hogan.
Blah, blah, blah...Same song and dance and guess what? You've been owned by basically everybody about this on several occasions as it is. Get new material. Nope. I own the MCU fans here. SMH is definitely the worst Spider-Man movie adaptation ever. SMH is so awful that MCU is too embarrassed to call it a Spider-Man movie so MCU has officially changed the title of SMH to The Summer of George.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 29, 2017 17:21:27 GMT
Blah, blah, blah...Same song and dance and guess what? You've been owned by basically everybody about this on several occasions as it is. Get new material. Nope. I own the MCU fans here. SMH is definitely the worst Spider-Man movie adaptation ever. SMH is so awful that MCU is too embarrassed to call it a Spider-Man movie so MCU has officially changed the title of SMH to The Summer of George. You are not in the right to call SMH "the worst Spider-Man movie adaptation ever" considering you prefer X-Men Origins: Wolverine to Deadpool and Logan, and you have no right to criticize SMH for "betraying the character" either seeing as you take no issue with Superman wounding a man to where death is the only outlook for his future (BvS). Please, give back your geek card - though I'm curious if its a bootleg copy since you've openly admitted here and on IMDb prime that you are a bootlegger.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 29, 2017 19:18:02 GMT
This issue depends heavily on your age and experience with the movies. Some people are going to see the Raimi films as untouchable because they've become these weirdly nostalgic artifacts.
When I saw them as a preteen/early teen they were state-of-the-art, colorful and fun. I watch them now and I find them to be very much like the Evil Dead movies. They have this weird balance of camp, slapstick and melodrama that only Raimi could have pulled off. They are almost too much like reading a comic book from the mid sixties/early seventies.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 29, 2017 20:42:22 GMT
I honestly think Homecoming is the worst. At ASM2 had potential Agreed. SMH is the worst movie adaptation of Spider-Man ever. If you think he needs to pretend no other heroes exist in his world and he's all alone.
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Post by scabab on Dec 29, 2017 20:47:26 GMT
SMH is so awful that MCU is too embarrassed to call it a Spider-Man movie so MCU has officially changed the title of SMH to The Summer of George. See this is the kind of thing that gets you all this hostility, which you bring on yourself, by saying these things you know aren't true just to stir trouble up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 21:01:05 GMT
Those weren't jokes though. They were...just not good ones. No. Those moments were not jokes. They weren't meant to be funny.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 21:02:34 GMT
This issue depends heavily on your age and experience with the movies. Some people are going to see the Raimi films as untouchable because they've become these weirdly nostalgic artifacts. When I saw them as a preteen/early teen they were state-of-the-art, colorful and fun. I watch them now and I find them to be very much like the Evil Dead movies. They have this weird balance of camp, slapstick and melodrama that only Raimi could have pulled off. They are almost too much like reading a comic book from the mid sixties/early seventies. But Spiderman is a comic book from the mid sixties early seventies! That's the source material! hee hee hee
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 29, 2017 21:06:46 GMT
See this is the kind of thing that gets you all this hostility, which you bring on yourself, by saying these things you know aren't true just to stir trouble up. Spider-Man Reboot Working Title Is A Seinfeld ReferenceBy JAY JAYSON - March 10, 2016According to Production Weekly, the working title for Sony and Marvel's Spider-Man reboot ( listed as “Untitled Marvel/Sony Feature” ) will be: “Summer Of George.”
The title appears to be a reference to a 1997 episode of Seinfeld. “Summer Of George” was the title for the Season 8 finale ( 156th episode ) of the NBC sitcom. In it, lovable loser George Costanza receives a severance package from the New York Yankees, and it's enough money for George to do whatever he likes for the summer, but instead he chooses to waste his financial freedom by being incredibly lazy. The Spider-Man reboot will star Tom Holland and Zendaya. It'll be directed by Jon Watts, based on a script written by John Francis Daley and Jonathan M. Goldstein.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 21:10:49 GMT
See this is the kind of thing that gets you all this hostility, which you bring on yourself, by saying these things you know aren't true just to stir trouble up. Spider-Man Reboot Working Title Is A Seinfeld ReferenceBy JAY JAYSON - March 10, 2016According to Production Weekly, the working title for Sony and Marvel's Spider-Man reboot ( listed as “Untitled Marvel/Sony Feature” ) will be: “Summer Of George.”
The title appears to be a reference to a 1997 episode of Seinfeld. “Summer Of George” was the title for the Season 8 finale ( 156th episode ) of the NBC sitcom. In it, lovable loser George Costanza receives a severance package from the New York Yankees, and it's enough money for George to do whatever he likes for the summer, but instead he chooses to waste his financial freedom by being incredibly lazy. The Spider-Man reboot will star Tom Holland and Zendaya. It'll be directed by Jon Watts, based on a script written by John Francis Daley and Jonathan M. Goldstein. Ha! That was a great episode! I DECLARE THIS THE SUMMER OF GEORGE!
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 29, 2017 21:46:29 GMT
SMH is so awful that MCU is too embarrassed to call it a Spider-Man movie so MCU has officially changed the title of SMH to The Summer of George. See this is the kind of thing that gets you all this hostility, which you bring on yourself, by saying these things you know aren't true just to stir trouble up. And yet you still coddle him. If I didn't know any better, which I don't, I'd say you were both the same person. Are you ever going to take any action on this?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 29, 2017 22:54:06 GMT
This issue depends heavily on your age and experience with the movies. Some people are going to see the Raimi films as untouchable because they've become these weirdly nostalgic artifacts. When I saw them as a preteen/early teen they were state-of-the-art, colorful and fun. I watch them now and I find them to be very much like the Evil Dead movies. They have this weird balance of camp, slapstick and melodrama that only Raimi could have pulled off. They are almost too much like reading a comic book from the mid sixties/early seventies. But Spiderman is a comic book from the mid sixties early seventies! That's the source material! hee hee hee You're right and Raimi captures that energy almost perfectly - warts and all. It's an almost too perfect recreation which crosses into the Uncanny valley.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 0:35:06 GMT
But Spiderman is a comic book from the mid sixties early seventies! That's the source material! hee hee hee You're right and Raimi captures that energy almost perfectly - warts and all. It's an almost too perfect recreation which crosses into the Uncanny valley. That's why I like it, personally. Also, I do find it somewhat funny how some fans call the Raimi trilogy too much like the comics while others call it too different from the comics. I think it's just popular to hate things that aren't the latest incarnation. Likewise I've seen posts trash the original Star Wars in the spirit of defending the new ones.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 30, 2017 1:04:54 GMT
You're right and Raimi captures that energy almost perfectly - warts and all. It's an almost too perfect recreation which crosses into the Uncanny valley. That's why I like it, personally. Also, I do find it somewhat funny how some fans call the Raimi trilogy too much like the comics while others call it too different from the comics. I think it's just popular to hate things that aren't the latest incarnation. Likewise I've seen posts trash the original Star Wars in the spirit of defending the new ones. I'm not one to thumb my nose at older films and comic books because new and shiny replacements have come along. I hate that attitude with a passion and people who do that are posers in my eyes. The Raimi films are good movies; I regard them as classics. That said, they have been overly romanticized in the past few years by fans who can't place them into the proper context of the times in which they were made. While the Raimi films are great, they are not perfect and you have to acknowledge how they are somewhat rooted in the camp and slapstick of Raimi's earlier work.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 30, 2017 2:12:22 GMT
SMH is so awful that MCU is too embarrassed to call it a Spider-Man movie so MCU has officially changed the title of SMH to The Summer of George. See this is the kind of thing that gets you all this hostility, which you bring on yourself, by saying these things you know aren't true Not true? SMH is awful, I do believe that's true. As for the title change, I'm going by what IMDb has as the official title of the movie.
Also, MCU fans have no right to complain about what I say when they continually make up bullshit that they know isn't true. For example, King Kong Shady falsely claimed that WB wouldn't have made Wonder Woman if MCU hadn't announced Captain Marvel first. I proved that was bullshit by providing multiple links showing that WB announced to shareholders they were producing Wonder Woman two weeks before MCU announced they were producing Captain Marvel.
Then King Kong Shady tried to adjust his bullshit and basically accused WB's board of lying to shareholders about their intent to produce Wonder Woman (which would be a federal crime because shareholders are the legal owners of a company and the SEC considers knowingly lying to shareholders to be fraud). But that was also proven false by the fact that WB not only produced Wonder Woman as they announced to shareholders they would, but also since the project was ahead of schedule they were able to move the release date three weeks earlier.
So if you're going to blame anyone for saying things they know aren't true just to stir up trouble, then you really should start with King Kong Shady and some of the other MCU fans here.
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Post by scabab on Dec 30, 2017 2:42:17 GMT
Not true? SMH is awful, I do believe that's true. That's fine but that's not what I was referring to which is why I singled out a part of your message when I said that. Which you know perfectly well is a working title which they do for many big movies to keep attention away. You got it from IMDb which states it as "fake working title". en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_titleThe rest of your post has nothing to do with this current thread and will be looked at when people have issue with someone else.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 30, 2017 2:48:03 GMT
Not true? SMH is awful, I do believe that's true. That's fine but that's not what I was referring to which is why I singled out a part of your message when I said that. Which you know perfectly well is a working title which they do for many big movies to keep attention away. You got it from IMDb which states it as "fake working title". en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_titleThe rest of your post has nothing to do with this current thread and will be looked at when people have issue with someone else. For real? Is this some kind of joke? Are you going to wipe his nose now too?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 3:44:18 GMT
That's why I like it, personally. Also, I do find it somewhat funny how some fans call the Raimi trilogy too much like the comics while others call it too different from the comics. I think it's just popular to hate things that aren't the latest incarnation. Likewise I've seen posts trash the original Star Wars in the spirit of defending the new ones. I'm not one to thumb my nose at older films and comic books because new and shiny replacements have come along. I hate that attitude with a passion and people who do that are posers in my eyes. The Raimi films are good movies; I regard them as classics. That said, they have been overly romanticized in the past few years by fans who can't place them into the proper context of the times in which they were made. While the Raimi films are great, they are not perfect and you have to acknowledge how they are somewhat rooted in the camp and slapstick of Raimi's earlier work. Fair enough. I do like that camp though. I think it fits the genre. A lot of MCU movies have it too- Cap 1, Avengers and Thor 3 for instance.
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