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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 1:20:12 GMT
vikings 4-1? are they really that good? Packers fan. Can't stand the Vikes. But if it comes right down to it, I will cheer them on over the Cheaters. That's the spirit. If the Birds are out of it - I love it when the Cowboys, Giants and Redskins are good - it makes the rivalry that much more fun the following year. |
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 4, 2018 1:25:00 GMT
"Hilarious" is kinda christian's catchphrase. Everything is "hilarious" to him - everything except Philly's repeated failings. I guess it comes down to what one interprets as failure. I completely get the thought process of - if you didn't win the big one you failed. i.e. the Phils in 2009, 2010, 2011 after winning the WS in 2008. Everybody (not just Philly) thought they were going to be the Yankees of the National League. I remember Cole Hamels at the WS Parade getting the crowd in a frenzy stating they were going to do it 'over and over again' - and everybody - not just locally but nationwide agreed. They were a dominant team. The Giants and Cardinals showed them anything can happen in the playoffs. That to me is a failure - those Phils teams who should have won multiple WS Rings. This years Birds? This is gravy. They go one and done - I don't consider it a failure - all because Wentz went down. Wentz has pretty much achieved 'Jesus' status here already where people bow to him like Iverson, Embiid, Cole Hamels, Bernie Parent, Tommy McDonald, and cheesesteaks ............. I look at the next few weeks as 'fun' - what happens happens - your franchise QB is gone for the year. Gravy. Make the best of it  I'm not just talking about this year's Eagles but rather their entire history in the Super Bowl era. You said yourself that you consider the post-08 Phillies a failure - wouldn't you consider the history of the Eagles, overall, a series of failings? I get that they've made it to 5 NFC title games in the last 20 years, and yet in losing all but 1 of them, and furthermore losing in the Big game every time they've made it there (a piddling twice in the Super Bowl era), wouldn't you say you've expected more overall? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 1:43:42 GMT
I guess it comes down to what one interprets as failure. I completely get the thought process of - if you didn't win the big one you failed. i.e. the Phils in 2009, 2010, 2011 after winning the WS in 2008. Everybody (not just Philly) thought they were going to be the Yankees of the National League. I remember Cole Hamels at the WS Parade getting the crowd in a frenzy stating they were going to do it 'over and over again' - and everybody - not just locally but nationwide agreed. They were a dominant team. The Giants and Cardinals showed them anything can happen in the playoffs. That to me is a failure - those Phils teams who should have won multiple WS Rings. This years Birds? This is gravy. They go one and done - I don't consider it a failure - all because Wentz went down. Wentz has pretty much achieved 'Jesus' status here already where people bow to him like Iverson, Embiid, Cole Hamels, Bernie Parent, Tommy McDonald, and cheesesteaks ............. I look at the next few weeks as 'fun' - what happens happens - your franchise QB is gone for the year. Gravy. Make the best of it I'm not just talking about this year's Eagles but rather their entire history in the Super Bowl era. You said yourself that you consider the post-08 Phillies a failure - wouldn't you consider the history of the Eagles, overall, a series of failings? I get that they've made it to 5 NFC title games in the last 20 years, and yet in losing all but 1 of them, and furthermore losing in the Big game every time they've made it there (a piddling twice in the Super Bowl era), wouldn't you say you've expected more overall? It's a really interesting question to be blunt. As I stated I get the viewpoint of 'anything less than a title' is a failure. I look at all of those NFC Championship Games - just like the Phils playoff run from 2008-2011 as an absolutely glorious time. Granted they came up short. Every year was a party. Night by night. You knew your team was great and they were going to kick a$$ and take names on gameday. Did they win the big one? (besides 2008 Phils). No.Punch to the gut. Life sucked out of you. You may even call in sick the next day at work and drown your sorrows away But would you regard it as a failure? You should make a post on it. I'm sure there's lots of thoughts on it. I view the Phils as a failure - as far as the Birds NFC Championship Games - I can't recall if I expected them to win the Super Bowl or not - I was young, ignorant and probably drunk 24/7 and happy they were Division Champs and made it to multiple NFC Championship Games. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 3:13:44 GMT
@screamingtreefrogs I'll tell you what. If Atlanta loses to the Rams, I will root for the Eagles. Of course I can't root for the Eagles if Atlanta wins because then we'll be playing against you. But if we are out, I'll adopt the Eagles and hope for a Cinderella-grade miracle. That would be fun to watch. So the bottom line is, I hope you are wrong and I'm right if it comes to Falcons vs. Eagles, but I hope you are right and I'm wrong if it's anybody else vs. the Eagles. How about that? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 3:19:35 GMT
@screamingtreefrogs I'll tell you what. If Atlanta loses to the Rams, I will root for the Eagles. Of course I can't root for the Eagles if Atlanta wins because then we'll be playing against you. But if we are out, I'll adopt the Eagles and hope for a Cinderella-grade miracle. That would be fun to watch. So the bottom line is, I hope you are wrong and I'm right if it comes to Falcons vs. Eagles, but I hope you are right and I'm wrong if it's anybody else vs. the Eagles. How about that? Sounds good. Home teams aside. Majority of time I root for the underdog. Of course every game and every situation has it's own 'story' and history behind it - but to me there's nothing quite like an underdog story of the downtrodden coming out on top. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Jan 4, 2018 15:24:14 GMT
To call a spade a spade - the ol' argument 'A team hasn't done this or that in so many years.....' really doesn't apply. New players. New coaches. In some situations new management. 11 years ago is an eternity. I get what you're saying. I don't blame people for thinking they're going to be one and done. I actually love it. I really think if things break right for them - they concentrate on the run, Foles doesn't turn the ball over and dinks and dunks, special teams and the 'D' steps up - they'll be in any game. I just can't see them getting smoked and obliterated. Granted the defense was abysmal the last month of the season or so (disregarding that exhibition game against the Cowboys the last week of the year) - they were actually #1 (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) against the run going into the Cowboys game. I just don't see any particular aspect of any one teams game in the NFC that puts them above another. Sure the Vikes D is tremendous. We're also talking about QB who has never been there before. Rams - yeah - they've been putting up a ton of points on people. Goff has never been there before. It sounds like the Birds - being the top seed just might be the most least respected team in the NFC - and I love it I'm just having fun with you guys, truthfully I wouldn't be all that surprised if the Eagles' defense carries them to a hard-fought win. I would however be surprised if Foles' offense suddenly goes on a tear in a playoff game against a tough opponent. Foles is a streaky player but has played well in the past. He also really only had one poor game against the Raiders. The Cowboys game was like a preseason game and he lit up the Giants. He led the Eagles down the field in three straight games for the go ahead score and the win. Why do you have so much faith in guys like Keenum and Goff, who have never done anything? |
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Post by DSDSquared on Jan 4, 2018 15:28:54 GMT
You did not say that the Eagles MIGHT be 1 and done. You stated that they will be one and done. Huge difference. Why does a team like the Falcons have a better chance? Are they suddenly good on the road? Has Matt Ryan suddenly learned how to win a road playoff game? No. That dome team will have to come to Philly and play against a team who basically has not lost at home in a year and a half. I will bump this thread in a few weeks and laugh. The Eagles could lose. Anyone can, but they have a better chance than most.
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Post by NJtoTX on Jan 4, 2018 15:53:19 GMT
What's weird is the Titans were 33-1 to win it after the preseason and by making the playoffs, their odds are now 100-1.
Bills stay exactly the same at 100-1.
Falcons were 12-1, now 20-1.
Chiefs nearly the same: 22-1 and now 20-1.
Same for the Panthers, from 28-1 to 30-1.
Rams went from 150-1 to 12-1.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jan 4, 2018 17:26:53 GMT
What's weird is the Titans were 33-1 to win it after the preseason and by making the playoffs, their odds are now 100-1. Bills stay exactly the same at 100-1. Falcons were 12-1, now 20-1. Chiefs nearly the same: 22-1 and now 20-1. Same for the Panthers, from 28-1 to 30-1. Rams went from 150-1 to 12-1. I remember the crazy odds for the Browns to win their division. I almost bet on them just because the odds were so good. Glad I didn't ha ha. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 21:56:13 GMT
You did not say that the Eagles MIGHT be 1 and done. You stated that they will be one and done. Huge difference. Why does a team like the Falcons have a better chance? Are they suddenly good on the road? Has Matt Ryan suddenly learned how to win a road playoff game? No. That dome team will have to come to Philly and play against a team who basically has not lost at home in a year and a half. I will bump this thread in a few weeks and laugh. The Eagles could lose. Anyone can, but they have a better chance than most. We'll see who will be bumping threads, and who will be laughing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 21:57:17 GMT
You did not say that the Eagles MIGHT be 1 and done. You stated that they will be one and done. Huge difference. Why does a team like the Falcons have a better chance? Are they suddenly good on the road? Has Matt Ryan suddenly learned how to win a road playoff game? No. That dome team will have to come to Philly and play against a team who basically has not lost at home in a year and a half. I will bump this thread in a few weeks and laugh. The Eagles could lose. Anyone can, but they have a better chance than most. We'll see who will be bumping threads, and who will be laughing. I fully intend on being a gracious winner and good sport when the Birds win their first game |
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Post by mecano04 on Jan 4, 2018 22:40:40 GMT
Aren't the Pats favorite each season?
If they make it there, I'm curious to see if a third team will go full retard against them while having the game in hand.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 22:45:02 GMT
Aren't the Pats favorite each season? If they make it there, I'm curious to see if a third team will go full retard against them while having the game in hand. I'm still waiting for Scorcher VI 'Here we go again......again!!' |
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Post by mecano04 on Jan 4, 2018 23:21:33 GMT
Aren't the Pats favorite each season? If they make it there, I'm curious to see if a third team will go full retard against them while having the game in hand. I'm still waiting for Scorcher VI 'Here we go again......again!!' Yours is more appropriate for the subject but my favorite is still: |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 3:12:33 GMT
We'll see who will be bumping threads, and who will be laughing. I fully intend on being a gracious winner and good sport when the Birds win their first game Like I said, I have nothing against the Eagles. I'll root for them if the Falcons get eliminated by the Rams, before having to face the Eagles. Of course I'll not root for them if they are the Falcons' opponents; that's natural. My prediction that the Eagles will be one-and-done or at best two-and-done stems from my analysis of what I've been seeing before and after Wentz' injury. It's not malicious; it's not to provoke or tease or troll anyone. It's just what I believe will happen, frankly. Maybe I'm wrong and if the facts prove me wrong, I'll graciously admit that I was mistaken. And I have nothing against your attitude either. You're trying to be optimistic, you support your team, you are focusing on the motivation factor. While doing so, you are not arrogant or offensive. All good. Christian-Flickinger's attitude, however, is irritating, so, like a normal human being, I'll experience some pleasure if he is proven wrong. Just what you just said, as compared to what he just said, shows a huge attitude difference: yours, nice and good. His, not so much. (Clarification, before this whole mess starts again - I'm saying this, as a regular IMDBv2 Sports member, not as a moderator. As far as moderation goes, Christian-Flickinger is entitled to his opinion and having one is not a ToS violation, so this has nothing to do with moderation. But I'm entitled to *my* personal opinion of his attitude). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 3:29:20 GMT
I fully intend on being a gracious winner and good sport when the Birds win their first game Like I said, I have nothing against the Eagles. I'll root for them if the Falcons get eliminated by the Rams, before having to face the Eagles. Of course I'll not root for them if they are the Falcons' opponents; that's natural. My prediction that the Eagles will be one-and-done or at best two-and-done stems from my analysis of what I've been seeing before and after Wentz' injury. It's not malicious; it's not to provoke or tease or troll anyone. It's just what I believe will happen, frankly. Maybe I'm wrong and if the facts prove me wrong, I'll graciously admit that I was mistaken. And I have nothing against your attitude either. You're trying to be optimistic, you support your team, you are focusing on the motivation factor. While doing so, you are not arrogant or offensive. All good. Christian-Flickinger's attitude, however, is irritating, so, like a normal human being, I'll experience some pleasure if he is proven wrong. Just what you just said, as compared to what he just said, shows a huge attitude difference: yours, nice and good. His, not so much. (Clarification, before this whole mess starts again - I'm saying this, as a regular IMDBv2 Sports member, not as a moderator. As far as moderation goes, Christian-Flickinger is entitled to his opinion and having one is not a ToS violation, so this has nothing to do with moderation. But I'm entitled to *my* personal opinion of his attitude). I wouldn't take it personal or be offended - as Philly fans - we all beat up on each other too on here  I think it's hysterical. But we have one common ground we root for our home teams. There was an old poster on the old IMDB - Jenny_Page from Philly - I wish she posted here - I used to call her Chip Kelly's wife incognito - she would defend him at will to her grave - never mind he destroyed the team. It was hysterical. Not trying to sound like Nostradamus - we can all pull a rabbit out of our a$$ at times - but I predicted he'd go 2-14 with the 9ers and get fired after one year - after he was fired she disappeared oh i miss her so. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Jan 5, 2018 16:01:52 GMT
I fully intend on being a gracious winner and good sport when the Birds win their first game Like I said, I have nothing against the Eagles. I'll root for them if the Falcons get eliminated by the Rams, before having to face the Eagles. Of course I'll not root for them if they are the Falcons' opponents; that's natural. My prediction that the Eagles will be one-and-done or at best two-and-done stems from my analysis of what I've been seeing before and after Wentz' injury. It's not malicious; it's not to provoke or tease or troll anyone. It's just what I believe will happen, frankly. Maybe I'm wrong and if the facts prove me wrong, I'll graciously admit that I was mistaken. And I have nothing against your attitude either. You're trying to be optimistic, you support your team, you are focusing on the motivation factor. While doing so, you are not arrogant or offensive. All good. Christian-Flickinger's attitude, however, is irritating, so, like a normal human being, I'll experience some pleasure if he is proven wrong. Just what you just said, as compared to what he just said, shows a huge attitude difference: yours, nice and good. His, not so much. (Clarification, before this whole mess starts again - I'm saying this, as a regular IMDBv2 Sports member, not as a moderator. As far as moderation goes, Christian-Flickinger is entitled to his opinion and having one is not a ToS violation, so this has nothing to do with moderation. But I'm entitled to *my* personal opinion of his attitude). You are so full of crap. YOU are the one with a poor attitude. You said that Philly is one and done and I called you on it. That is it. I would go as far as to say I would be shocked if they lose their first playoff game. This discussion will be hilarious after next Saturday when the Eagles win. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 16:46:13 GMT
Like I said, I have nothing against the Eagles. I'll root for them if the Falcons get eliminated by the Rams, before having to face the Eagles. Of course I'll not root for them if they are the Falcons' opponents; that's natural. My prediction that the Eagles will be one-and-done or at best two-and-done stems from my analysis of what I've been seeing before and after Wentz' injury. It's not malicious; it's not to provoke or tease or troll anyone. It's just what I believe will happen, frankly. Maybe I'm wrong and if the facts prove me wrong, I'll graciously admit that I was mistaken. And I have nothing against your attitude either. You're trying to be optimistic, you support your team, you are focusing on the motivation factor. While doing so, you are not arrogant or offensive. All good. Christian-Flickinger's attitude, however, is irritating, so, like a normal human being, I'll experience some pleasure if he is proven wrong. Just what you just said, as compared to what he just said, shows a huge attitude difference: yours, nice and good. His, not so much. (Clarification, before this whole mess starts again - I'm saying this, as a regular IMDBv2 Sports member, not as a moderator. As far as moderation goes, Christian-Flickinger is entitled to his opinion and having one is not a ToS violation, so this has nothing to do with moderation. But I'm entitled to *my* personal opinion of his attitude). You are so full of crap. YOU are the one with a poor attitude. You said that Philly is one and done and I called you on it. That is it. I would go as far as to say I would be shocked if they lose their first playoff game. This discussion will be hilarious after next Saturday when the Eagles win. @screamingtreefrogs Hey, buddy, see what I was saying about this guy's attitude? ^^^ Case in point. He was "nice" enough to fully demonstrate it and confirm what I just told you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 16:54:14 GMT
we're passionate crazy fans even if it's a bad look at times - what can i say birds fan floors giants fan shooting his mouth off and embarrasses him in front of his girlfriend |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 17:19:14 GMT
we're passionate crazy fans even if it's a bad look at times - what can i say birds fan floors giants fan shooting his mouth off and embarrasses him in front of his girlfriend What can you say? You could say that this is wrong. Rooting for a different team is no reason to justify being violently assaulted. This is thuggish behavior, and if this is what you are proud of, *I* don't know what to say! It's OK to passionately root for your team. It is not to OK to punch and knock-out the supporters of other teams. What this Eagles fan needs is to be arrested and charged with felony assault. I remember an episode I witnessed when I once took my young son to the Falcon's stadium. It was a Panthers at Falcons game. There was a guy there, peacefully rooting for the Panthers, dressed in Panther's gear, not saying anything provocative, just cheering and applauding when they had a good play. A drunken Falcons fan started to harass and threaten him. The situation was about to turn into spontaneous assault, with the belligerent and obnoxious Falcons' fan doing all the action, while the Panthers fan tried to be quiet and ignore him. You know what happened? I didn't do anything because I was more concerned with my young son's safety, trying to shield him from whatever bad shit was about to happen. But other Falcons' fans yelled at the guy to stop, and since he didn't, went out and summoned event staff security, and the drunken bully was thrown out. Then the other Falcons' fans apologized to the Panthers' fan, saying "We are sorry for his behavior, sir. We are rivals, but you paid your ticket and have the right to be here; feel free to support your team." That's class. |
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