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Post by bravomailer on Jan 5, 2018 3:33:35 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 5, 2018 4:06:16 GMT
great interesting choice. that whole movie was filled with strange relationships. including the relationship between MILLAND and his sister. I honestly don’t see any implied sexual relationship there (between Rick and Pamela Fitzgerald, that is): it may seem strange to us nowadays that two grown siblings would buy a house together, but I don’t think there’s a single thing to suggest any incestuous connection in the film. I honestly believe you’re seeing a bit too much into it here. With that said, I do definitely see an implied relationship (so obvious, in fact, that it’s less subtext and more text) between Miss Holloway and Mary Meredith. As for other choices in this category (first ones that come to mind are the monster flicks, as there is just so much material here)… Countess Zaleska and Lili in Dracula’s Daughter, one of my favorite Universal horrors Dr. Frankenstein and Dr. Pretorius, Bride of FrankensteinIrena Dubrovna and Elizabeth Russell’s Cat Woman, Cat PeopleBrandon and Philip, RopeGuy Haines and Bruno Antony, Strangers on a Train Baron Meinster, Brides of Dracula Again, sorry for all the horror flicks, but they tended to have a lot of subtext.
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Post by OldAussie on Jan 5, 2018 4:35:47 GMT
Claire Bloom in The Haunting
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Post by OldAussie on Jan 5, 2018 4:41:34 GMT
Cherry Valance and Matthew Garth comparing "guns". Actually, I don't buy the homoerotic interpretation, but some do.
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Jan 5, 2018 4:52:04 GMT
ill give it a rewatch and get back to you.
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Post by OldAussie on Jan 5, 2018 4:56:06 GMT
Anthony Quinn and Henry Fonda in Warlock
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 5, 2018 4:58:33 GMT
Cherry Valance and Matthew Garth comparing "guns". Actually, I don't buy the homoerotic interpretation, but some do. That’s an interesting case for me as well, OldAussie. There’s nothing about the characters that particularly seems to suggest that interpretation, and it’s never really returned to (unless there’s something I’m not remembering). But, to me, that scene by itself, alone (perhaps, even, taken out of context), does seem homoerotic—which makes it an intriguing case of “intentional, or not?” and, even if not, “really there, or seeing too much into it?”
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Post by OldAussie on Jan 5, 2018 5:03:01 GMT
If anyone hasn't seen it, I recommend The Celluloid Closet - very good documentary on this topic.
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Jan 5, 2018 5:22:50 GMT
very obvious lesbian undertones in this classic historical bollywood flick:
look at the two servants smiling at each other.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 5, 2018 14:08:01 GMT
A couple from Fassbinder, there's probably more
The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant
Fox and His Friends
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Post by bravomailer on Jan 5, 2018 14:35:38 GMT
Haven't seen Giant in 45 years so I'm not sure if Luz was attracted to Liz's femininity or disliked it.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 6, 2018 2:19:33 GMT
A couple from Fassbinder, there's probably more The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant
Fox and His FriendsI haven't seen these, Fox, but I would definitely add Fassbinder's Querelle (1982).
Querelle, was probably the most obvious answer from Fassbinder's filmography, but I haven't seen that one yet. He's very hit or miss for me, but that looks like one of his more interesting films, at least visually if nothing else.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 6, 2018 2:26:27 GMT
A couple from Fassbinder, there's probably more The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant
Fox and His Friends Desert Hearts (1986), a beautiful lesbian love story starring Helen Shaver and Patricia Charbonneau
Haven't see that one either, but apparently it inspired this song from one of my all time favorite bands, so I do hope to check it out at some point. Field Mice - "So Said Kay"
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Post by jervistetch on Jan 6, 2018 3:04:27 GMT
Joan and Mercedes in JOHNNY GUITAR. And they weren't the only ones in that film. Overtones and undertones abound in Nicholas Ray's truly bizarre Western.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 8, 2018 4:27:07 GMT
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 19, 2018 19:23:38 GMT
Mikaël / Carl Theodor Dreyer (1924). On its very thin surface we have the story of an autocratic but loving father who expects devotion and obedience from his adopted son – the title character. The son, however, is a free-spending wastrel who isn’t above stealing from his master’s house to finance his affair with a Countess. Dip under the surface and you will find – as has been recognized very early on – the story of a gay older man and his jealousy of his young ward with whom he is in love. It should be acknowledged that in movies, at least through the 1960s, homosexuality was considered (at least for the purposes of popular consumption in film) as a particularly twisted mental disease. And along with gayness would come other, often violent, breaches of normality. Thus, characters like Wilmer, Joel Cairo, Bill Womack (Harry Morgan's wordless screen debut as Charles Laughton's masseur and henchman in "The Big Clock") as well as Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd in "Diamonds Are Forever" (1971) - and countless other examples of gangsters, criminals, and psycho killers - are portrayed as gay.
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Post by Archelaus on Jan 19, 2018 19:37:26 GMT
Written on the Wind (1956) Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (1958)
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Post by Archelaus on Jan 20, 2018 5:41:01 GMT
There was some homoerotic subtext between Kyle and Mitch since Douglas Sirk, the director, intended for Kyle to be gay.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jan 20, 2018 15:40:25 GMT
These two fellows in Diamonds Are Forever 1971 The assassins Thumper and Bambi too have always struck me as gay and probably in a relationship.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jan 20, 2018 15:46:28 GMT
As for other choices in this category (first ones that come to mind are the monster flicks, as there is just so much material here)… Countess Zaleska and Lili in Dracula’s Daughter, one of my favorite Universal horrors There've been several vampire films over the years with lesbian overtones, eg Vampyres (1974). That totally flew by me, if it's there. Dr. Pretorius is pretty clearly gay, but I didn't sense anything between him and Dr. Frankenstein.
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