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Post by sdm3 on Jan 6, 2018 2:32:41 GMT
Not sure how much truth there is to all the recent reports of trouble in football paradise. Several sources are now reporting that Belichick "sees an opening" to coach the Giants and is seriously considering it. Brady is approaching 41 years old and seems destined to eventually go on to officially found some mad health cult. Which of them is the first to leave the Patriots?
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 6, 2018 2:37:57 GMT
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 6, 2018 3:06:41 GMT
Belichick because he's done this before. Brady is near his finish line. Belichick could probably go another 5-10yrs if he really really wanted elsewhere.
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Jan 6, 2018 3:28:52 GMT
Belichick will leave to take the recently vacated MNF opening.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 6, 2018 4:25:13 GMT
Belichick will leave after this season because it's clear that Belichick has no real power and Kraft is letting Brady call all the shots. Brady got Kraft to force Belichick to give away a franchise QB to the 49ers for very little. So Belichick will leave and go somewhere else and prove that he can win without Brady. Meanwhile, Brady will continue to decline and will be another Steve DeBerg, relegated to a backup role.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 12:11:14 GMT
I think the reason the media are proposing for why they gave away Jimmy G for so little is likely to be real (a temporary rift between Bellichick, Kraft, and Brady, with the latter feeling uncomfortable with Jimmy G breathing behind his neck) but I also think their temporary disagreement is outweighed by 18 years of fruitful collaboration and maybe they are already over it and will continue to collaborate for as long as Brady can play at his high level, and his longevity so far hasn't really shown signs of fading; the guy is still putting together MVP-caliber performances and is a clear contender (or rather, favorite) for another ring now and one or two more in the near future) so I don't see a reason for this to change in the next two or even three years.
After Brady retires then maybe Bellichick will go elsewhere. Maybe. So I voted for the third option, the continuation, but I guess if the poll had an option saying "Brady will stay for two or three more years then retire and then and only then Bellichick will leave, maybe" that's what I'd have voted for.
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 6, 2018 12:23:06 GMT
After Brady retires then maybe Bellichick will go elsewhere. Maybe. So I voted for the third option, the continuation, but I guess if the poll had an option saying "Brady will stay for two or three more years then retire and then and only then Bellichick will leave, maybe" that's what I'd have voted for. In that case it would still be Brady leaving first, no? The poll doesn't suggest that if either of them leaves, it has to happen right away following this season. |
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Post by marsexplorer on Jan 6, 2018 12:26:31 GMT
Belichick will leave to take the recently vacated MNF opening. Why would ESPN torture us like that? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 12:48:43 GMT
After Brady retires then maybe Bellichick will go elsewhere. Maybe. So I voted for the third option, the continuation, but I guess if the poll had an option saying "Brady will stay for two or three more years then retire and then and only then Bellichick will leave, maybe" that's what I'd have voted for. In that case it would still be Brady leaving first, no? The poll doesn't suggest that if either of them leaves, it has to happen right away following this season. Yes, I thought of this too but didn't explicitly say it, because the poll seemed to imply that "leaving" would be going to another team, like Brady doing what Favre did and playing for the Jets; Bellichick coaching the Giants. In the sense or "leaving as in retirement" then I'd suggest that the full phrase I used to characterize my prediction would be accurate. |
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Post by marsexplorer on Jan 6, 2018 13:19:28 GMT
In that case it would still be Brady leaving first, no? The poll doesn't suggest that if either of them leaves, it has to happen right away following this season. Yes, I thought of this too but didn't explicitly say it, because the poll seemed to imply that "leaving" would be going to another team, like Brady doing what Favre did and playing for the Jets; Bellichick coaching the Giants. In the sense or "leaving as in retirement" then I'd suggest that the full phrase I used to characterize my prediction would be accurate. It seems as though Brady wanted Garoppolo gone avoid what was the Rodgers/Farve situation. Farve was basically forced out of Green Bay. |
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 6, 2018 13:29:37 GMT
Yes, I thought of this too but didn't explicitly say it, because the poll seemed to imply that "leaving" would be going to another team, like Brady doing what Favre did and playing for the Jets; Bellichick coaching the Giants. In the sense or "leaving as in retirement" then I'd suggest that the full phrase I used to characterize my prediction would be accurate. It seems as though Brady wanted Garoppolo gone avoid what was the Rodgers/Farve situation. Farve was basically forced out of Green Bay. If so, Brady put himself before the team. He'd rather the Pats have a crap backup QB as long as it means his own job is safe. It's part of the competitive spirit that makes him as great a player as he is, but it doesn't make him any more likeable. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 13:38:11 GMT
It seems as though Brady wanted Garoppolo gone avoid what was the Rodgers/Farve situation. Farve was basically forced out of Green Bay. If so, Brady put himself before the team. He'd rather the Pats have a crap backup QB as long as it means his own job is safe. It's part of the competitive spirit that makes him as great a player as he is, but it doesn't make him any more likeable. Yes, this seems to be the likely explanation which is why I've been saying that this part of the ESPN report rings true to me. |
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Post by marsexplorer on Jan 6, 2018 13:38:17 GMT
It seems as though Brady wanted Garoppolo gone avoid what was the Rodgers/Farve situation. Farve was basically forced out of Green Bay. If so, Brady put himself before the team. He'd rather the Pats have a crap backup QB as long as it means his own job is safe. It's part of the competitive spirit that makes him as great a player as he is, but it doesn't make him any more likeable. I never had a problem with Brady until now, when he seems to be turning in to a total selfish nutjob. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 13:54:27 GMT
If so, Brady put himself before the team. He'd rather the Pats have a crap backup QB as long as it means his own job is safe. It's part of the competitive spirit that makes him as great a player as he is, but it doesn't make him any more likeable. I never had a problem with Brady until now, when he seems to be turning in to a total selfish nutjob. Yes, and I don't like the quack doctor commercial cult thingy either. It's nuts. They'll be advertising useless nutritional supplements sold like if they were made of gold, dubious muscle training practices, and so forth. I'd rather see people not being fooled by quacks, and upholding the opinion of serious, board-certified Sports Medicine doctors and savvy, ethical personal trainers and coaches, rather then a quack like this guy that Brady has been promoting. A doctor spends four years in college, four years in medical school, four years in specialty training, and after 12 years, hopefully practices evidence-based, scientifically sound methods. A quack like this guy pretends to have a degree in "Chinese Medicine" by a school that has closed down, gets under investigation for making bogus claims of healing properties of the crap he was selling... and now gets endorsed by a top athlete like Tom Brady for obvious commercial gain (see the dream of having TB12 institutes spread all over the world like McDonald's)? That's like something to be sanctioned as a threat to public health, and if Bellichick is upset at this, I tip my hat to him. I'm very disappointed in Brady for getting involved with this shady stuff. He seemed to be a nice guy before, focused on his family (beautiful wife, nice kids) and his professionally-played games... but now, this? I mean, being upset at an upstart trying to get his place is understandable, and part of being a competitive athlete... but this quack medicine stuff is really too much. |
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2018 13:55:06 GMT
Shouldn’t we wait until TB is not the lead candidate for MVP and the Patriots are not the #1 seed in the AFC before writing the obituary on the Brady/Belichick era?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 13:57:14 GMT
Shouldn’t we wait until TB is not the lead candidate for MVP and the Patriots are not the #1 seed in the AFC before writing the obituary on the Brady/Belichick era? Sure, and that's kind of what I implied in my first post here. But what's your opinion on the quack "doctor" associated with Brady? I would like to hear the opinion of a Patriots fan on this shady stuff. Does he want to be know as Shady Brady? |
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2018 14:07:52 GMT
Shouldn’t we wait until TB is not the lead candidate for MVP and the Patriots are not the #1 seed in the AFC before writing the obituary on the Brady/Belichick era? But what's your opinion on the quack "doctor" associated with Brady? I call him, Rasputin. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 17:58:42 GMT
It seems as though Brady wanted Garoppolo gone avoid what was the Rodgers/Farve situation. Farve was basically forced out of Green Bay. If so, Brady put himself before the team. He'd rather the Pats have a crap backup QB as long as it means his own job is safe. It's part of the competitive spirit that makes him as great a player as he is, but it doesn't make him any more likeable. Flashes of Jeter refusing to move to 3B when A-Rod was a better shortstop. |
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 6, 2018 19:15:53 GMT
I can't see Brady leaving if they've nust traded away their future QB prospect to keep him there. Belichick could go if he's thinking 3-5 years ahead. So it has to be Bellichick.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 6, 2018 20:15:36 GMT
Yes, I thought of this too but didn't explicitly say it, because the poll seemed to imply that "leaving" would be going to another team, like Brady doing what Favre did and playing for the Jets; Bellichick coaching the Giants. In the sense or "leaving as in retirement" then I'd suggest that the full phrase I used to characterize my prediction would be accurate. It seems as though Brady wanted Garoppolo gone avoid what was the Rodgers/Farve situation. Farve was basically forced out of Green Bay. Yep, Brady has always been a selfish player and never gave a shit about the team. That's why Brady has always refused to give advice to young QBs.
We've seen the Broncos fail to find a QB to replace Peyton Manning. Belichick had a franchise QB who could replace Brady in the Patriots' system and continue winning, but Brady is so selfish that he got Kraft to force Belichick to give away a franchise QB to the 49ers. So now the Patriots will be just like the Broncos pretty soon.
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