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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 10, 2018 1:03:16 GMT
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jan 10, 2018 1:27:33 GMT
THIS time I think the accusers ARE LYING.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 10, 2018 1:36:27 GMT
I don't condone Stan trying to have his way with his healthcare workers but, c'mon, how much effort would it take to fend off an nonagenarian? It says the nurses' "duties included taking Lee's blood pressure, bringing him food and drink".
To take his blood pressure, they have to stand close to him and have 1 hand on the pump and the other hand on the pressure gauge. It would be pretty easy for Stan Lee to grope them while they were trying to take his blood pressure.
Similar with bringing him food and drink. They're carrying a tray, probably with both hands. So again it would be pretty easy for Stan Lee to grope them while they're carrying a tray.
It's not like Stan Lee is confined to a bed or a wheelchair. He frequently travels to comic conventions so he's still very mobile.
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Post by sostie on Jan 10, 2018 1:38:43 GMT
I don't condone Stan trying to have his way with his healthcare workers but, c'mon, how much effort would it take to fend off an nonagenarian? It says the nurses' "duties included taking Lee's blood pressure, bringing him food and drink".
To take his blood pressure, they have to stand close to him and have 1 hand on the pump and the other hand on the pressure gauge. It would be pretty easy for Stan Lee to grope them while they were trying to take his blood pressure.
And it would be pretty easy for him not to do it as well. But that doesn't matter does it. Because you've already deduced he's a sex offender. Better inform his lawyers...save them some time.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 10, 2018 1:40:45 GMT
Whoa! The guy who is the face of Marvel and has appeared in more MCU movies than anyone else is a sex offender? Looks like you didn't read the quote or click on the link, loser. And you say you aren't biased. 1st , I just read the article. It says Stan Lee walked around naked, groped his nurses, and demanded oral sex in the shower. 2nd, I didn't make this up or start this thread so don't attack me for a thread I didn't start.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 10, 2018 1:44:01 GMT
I don't condone Stan trying to have his way with his healthcare workers but, c'mon, how much effort would it take to fend off an nonagenarian? It says the nurses' "duties included taking Lee's blood pressure, bringing him food and drink".
To take his blood pressure, they have to stand close to him and have 1 hand on the pump and the other hand on the pressure gauge. It would be pretty easy for Stan Lee to grope them while they were trying to take his blood pressure.
Similar with bringing him food and drink. They're carrying a tray, probably with both hands. So again it would be pretty easy for Stan Lee to grope them while they're carrying a tray.
It's not like Stan Lee is confined to a bed or a wheelchair. He frequently travels to comic conventions so he's still very mobile.
Lee hasn't done anything wrong, the rep from the facility and others who work there have never seen or heard about this type of behavior from him. Its looking more and more obvious as every new detail is released that the person or persons making this accusations just want his money - because, let's face it, he's worth quite a lot and he's in his mid 90's. Also, note that the people accusing him are not revealing themselves and are only requesting money, they are not wanting to take legal action or anything of the sort - they just want his money.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 10, 2018 1:46:39 GMT
Looks like you didn't read the quote or click on the link, loser. And you say you aren't biased. 1st , I just read the article. It says Stan Lee walked around naked, groped his nurses, and demanded oral sex in the shower. 2nd, I didn't make this up or start this thread so don't attack me for a thread I didn't start. 1st, you only read the opening paragraph, you didn't read anything else, which is what I originally quoted( remember you replied TO ME, not the thread itself). 2nd, I never said you started the thread or am calling you out for it. I called you out as a hypocrite - you say you're not biased but you clearly are and its on full display here.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 10, 2018 2:11:00 GMT
the people accusing him are not revealing themselves That's not much of a defense for Stan Lee. Many victims of sexual assault by celebrities often don't want to reveal themselves because they'll get hounded by the media and also crazed fans of the celebrity will defend the celebrity and accuse them of making up the story. they are not wanting to take legal action or anything of the sort - they just want his money. They don't want to take legal action because: 1. They don't want to be hounded by the media and also accused of making up the story by crazed fans of the celebrity or even possibly receive death threats from crazed fans of the celebrity. 2. Stan Lee is a rich celebrity, which means he'll have a team of top-notch lawyers so Stan Lee would get away with it without any jail time (and probably no judge would sentence a 90+ year-old man to jail for groping women anyway). So their only recourse is to strike at Stan Lee where it'll hurt him the most - his bank account. It's no different than Fred Goldman suing O.J. for wrongful death. You think Fred Goldman was really after O.J.'s money? No, Fred Goldman really wanted O.J. thrown in jail and didn't give a shit about getting any money. But O.J.'s Dream Team of lawyers got O.J. off so O.J. wasn't going to jail (at least not for the 2 murders). So Fred Goldman's only recourse was to strike at O.J. where it would hurt him the most - his bank account.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 10, 2018 2:18:22 GMT
the people accusing him are not revealing themselves That's not much of a defense for Stan Lee. Many victims of sexual assault by celebrities often don't want to reveal themselves because they'll get hounded by the media and also crazed fans of the celebrity will defend the celebrity and accuse them of making up the story. they are not wanting to take legal action or anything of the sort - they just want his money. They don't want to take legal action because: 1. They don't want to be hounded by the media and also accused of making up the story by crazed fans of the celebrity or even possibly receive death threats from crazed fans of the celebrity. 2. Stan Lee is a rich celebrity, which means he'll have a team of top-notch lawyers so Stan Lee would get away with it without any jail time (and probably no judge would sentence a 90+ year-old man to jail for groping women anyway). So their only recourse is to strike at Stan Lee where it'll hurt him the most - his bank account. It's no different than Fred Goldman suing O.J. for wrongful death. You think Fred Goldman was really after O.J.'s money? No, Fred Goldman really wanted O.J. thrown in jail and didn't give a shit about getting any money. But O.J.'s Dream Team of lawyers got O.J. off so O.J. wasn't going to jail (at least not for the 2 murders). So Fred Goldman's only recourse was to strike at O.J. where it would hurt him the most - his bank account. You definitely have not been paying attention to the media in the last couple of months. Also, what is your goal here, anyway? Why do you want Stan Lee to be guilty and are ignoring all evidence that is suggesting he's innocent of the whole ordeal? Do you hate Marvel and their fans so much that you want to see them spin out of control for your own amusement?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 10, 2018 2:27:06 GMT
That's not much of a defense for Stan Lee. Many victims of sexual assault by celebrities often don't want to reveal themselves because they'll get hounded by the media and also crazed fans of the celebrity will defend the celebrity and accuse them of making up the story. They don't want to take legal action because: 1. They don't want to be hounded by the media and also accused of making up the story by crazed fans of the celebrity or even possibly receive death threats from crazed fans of the celebrity. 2. Stan Lee is a rich celebrity, which means he'll have a team of top-notch lawyers so Stan Lee would get away with it without any jail time (and probably no judge would sentence a 90+ year-old man to jail for groping women anyway). So their only recourse is to strike at Stan Lee where it'll hurt him the most - his bank account. It's no different than Fred Goldman suing O.J. for wrongful death. You think Fred Goldman was really after O.J.'s money? No, Fred Goldman really wanted O.J. thrown in jail and didn't give a shit about getting any money. But O.J.'s Dream Team of lawyers got O.J. off so O.J. wasn't going to jail (at least not for the 2 murders). So Fred Goldman's only recourse was to strike at O.J. where it would hurt him the most - his bank account. You definitely have not been paying attention to the media in the last couple of months. Also, what is your goal here, anyway? Why do you want Stan Lee to be guilty and are ignoring all evidence that is suggesting he's innocent of the whole ordeal? Do you hate Marvel and their fans so much that you want to see them spin out of control for your own amusement? I don't hate Marvel. I've said many times that Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are 2 of the top 10 best superhero movies ever made. I also like X2: X-Men United and X-Men: Days of Future Past and even the first Fantastic Four movie (the one starring Ioan Gruffeld and Jessica Alba).
As for my "goal", I want to see justice done. Stan Lee shouldn't be put above the law and shouldn't get away with sexual assault just because he's a rich celebrity.
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Post by sostie on Jan 10, 2018 2:27:08 GMT
That's not much of a defense for Stan Lee. Many victims of sexual assault by celebrities often don't want to reveal themselves because they'll get hounded by the media and also crazed fans of the celebrity will defend the celebrity and accuse them of making up the story. They don't want to take legal action because: 1. They don't want to be hounded by the media and also accused of making up the story by crazed fans of the celebrity or even possibly receive death threats from crazed fans of the celebrity. 2. Stan Lee is a rich celebrity, which means he'll have a team of top-notch lawyers so Stan Lee would get away with it without any jail time (and probably no judge would sentence a 90+ year-old man to jail for groping women anyway). So their only recourse is to strike at Stan Lee where it'll hurt him the most - his bank account. It's no different than Fred Goldman suing O.J. for wrongful death. You think Fred Goldman was really after O.J.'s money? No, Fred Goldman really wanted O.J. thrown in jail and didn't give a shit about getting any money. But O.J.'s Dream Team of lawyers got O.J. off so O.J. wasn't going to jail (at least not for the 2 murders). So Fred Goldman's only recourse was to strike at O.J. where it would hurt him the most - his bank account. You definitely have not been paying attention to the media in the last couple of months. Also, what is your goal here, anyway? Why do you want Stan Lee to be guilty and are ignoring all evidence that is suggesting he's innocent of the whole ordeal? Do you hate Marvel and their fans so much that you want to see them spin out of control for your own amusement? His goal is that he is quite happy to decide that someone is a sex pest based on SOME of the reporting because he doesn't like anything MCU related. I mean I don't particularly care for DC-Fan..but through selective reading and biased conclusion I have gathered the following about DC-Fan.. He is either a homophobe or is sexual predator...why else state on his IMDB page he is "100% heterosexual male"? He is also a a mysoginist...why else would he list his Top 5 Playmates on his IMDB page? Now I don't know all the facts here, a good chance I am wrong, I've just chosen what I want to from what is on that page and made a biased conclusion. Not nice is it?
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jan 10, 2018 2:30:14 GMT
Well, he created Striperella. /jk
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 10, 2018 2:39:35 GMT
You definitely have not been paying attention to the media in the last couple of months. Also, what is your goal here, anyway? Why do you want Stan Lee to be guilty and are ignoring all evidence that is suggesting he's innocent of the whole ordeal? Do you hate Marvel and their fans so much that you want to see them spin out of control for your own amusement? I don't hate Marvel. I've said many times that Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are 2 of the top 10 best superhero movies ever made. I also like X2: X-Men United and X-Men: Days of Future Past and even the first Fantastic Four movie (the one starring Ioan Gruffeld and Jessica Alba).
As for my "goal", I want to see justice done. Stan Lee shouldn't be put above the law and shouldn't get away with sexual assault just because he's a rich celebrity.
You do hate Marvel, liking a few movies that are based on their characters doesn't not make you a hater - there is lots of evidence for this. If you want justice done then why are you shunning away the evidence people are saying that denies these claims? Like the people from the facility who have said Lee is a kind man who has never displayed this kind of behavior? Where is "let's wait and see on this"? I mean if these people are not lying and the people who have anonymously made these accusations are lying scammers then they should be taken to court. But here you are, totally in favor with the notion that Lee is scum and guilty. Again, do you dislike Marvel and their fans that much? Grow up and act your age.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 10, 2018 3:00:20 GMT
I don't hate Marvel. I've said many times that Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are 2 of the top 10 best superhero movies ever made. I also like X2: X-Men United and X-Men: Days of Future Past and even the first Fantastic Four movie (the one starring Ioan Gruffeld and Jessica Alba).
As for my "goal", I want to see justice done. Stan Lee shouldn't be put above the law and shouldn't get away with sexual assault just because he's a rich celebrity.
You do hate Marvel, liking a few movies that are based on their characters doesn't not make you a hater - there is lots of evidence for this. If you want justice done then why are you shunning away the evidence people are saying that denies these claims? Like the people from the facility who have said Lee is a kind man who has never displayed this kind of behavior? Where is "let's wait and see on this"? I mean if these people are not lying and the people who have anonymously made these accusations are lying scammers then they should be taken to court. But here you are, totally in favor with the notion that Lee is scum and guilty. Again, do you dislike Marvel and their fans that much? Grow up and act your age. And even if all these allegations are true, I feel like DC-Fan might be blowing this out of proportion just to fit his agenda.
I mean, this isn't exactly a defense and doesn't excuse those behaviors themselves, but... I've seen comments stating that elderlies going a bit "loopy" isn't entirely uncommon...
Also, wasn't there a DC editor who got fired because of what might be an even worse allegations?
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 10, 2018 3:23:42 GMT
You definitely have not been paying attention to the media in the last couple of months. Also, what is your goal here, anyway? Why do you want Stan Lee to be guilty and are ignoring all evidence that is suggesting he's innocent of the whole ordeal? Do you hate Marvel and their fans so much that you want to see them spin out of control for your own amusement? I don't hate Marvel. I've said many times that Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are 2 of the top 10 best superhero movies ever made. I also like X2: X-Men United and X-Men: Days of Future Past and even the first Fantastic Four movie (the one starring Ioan Gruffeld and Jessica Alba).
As for my "goal", I want to see justice done. Stan Lee shouldn't be put above the law and shouldn't get away with sexual assault just because he's a rich celebrity.
So you already have him convicted? Look as a former abuse victim I agree we must give credence to victims stories, but we have to balance that with the presumption of innocence.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 10, 2018 3:56:02 GMT
I don't hate Marvel. I've said many times that Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are 2 of the top 10 best superhero movies ever made. I also like X2: X-Men United and X-Men: Days of Future Past and even the first Fantastic Four movie (the one starring Ioan Gruffeld and Jessica Alba).
As for my "goal", I want to see justice done. Stan Lee shouldn't be put above the law and shouldn't get away with sexual assault just because he's a rich celebrity.
If you want justice done then why are you shunning away the evidence people are saying that denies these claims? What evidence? There isn't any shred of evidence to prove that what the nurses said isn't true. Like the people from the facility who have said Lee is a kind man who has never displayed this kind of behavior? 1st, that's not evidence. That's just opinions from people. 2nd, there are plenty of cases of priests being found guilty of molesting children and many of their parishioners saying that they were completely surprised because the priest was a kind man who has never displayed this kind of behavior. So the opinions of those people who say Stan Lee is a kind man doesn't hold much weight here.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 10, 2018 4:02:40 GMT
If you want justice done then why are you shunning away the evidence people are saying that denies these claims? What evidence? There isn't any shred of evidence to prove that what the nurses said isn't true. Like the people from the facility who have said Lee is a kind man who has never displayed this kind of behavior? 1st, that's not evidence. That's just opinions from people. 2nd, there are plenty of cases of priests being found guilty of molesting children and many of their parishioners saying that they were completely surprised because the priest was a kind man who has never displayed this kind of behavior. So the opinions of those people who say Stan Lee is a kind man doesn't hold much weight here.Maybe but, I'll tell what does hold weight here - innocent - until proven guilty.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 10, 2018 4:26:44 GMT
So who will play Stan Lee when Law & Order: SVU does an episode based on the sexual transgressions of the Avengers' creator?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jan 10, 2018 4:43:10 GMT
That DC-Fan guy is such a creepy weirdo. I bet it would make his year life if Stan Lee was confirmed to be a sexual predator. I mean, he’s clearly really hoping those allegations are true. He even clicked like on the OP. “Creepy weirdo” is actually an understatement.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 5:13:29 GMT
That DC-Fan guy is such a creepy weirdo. I bet it would make his year life if Stan Lee was confirmed to be a sexual predator. I mean, he’s clearly really hoping those allegations are true. He even clicked like on the OP. “Creepy weirdo” is actually an understatement. How can you like a story about women being sexually harrased? Sick sick sick But still he isnt banned. What the freaking fuck. Really scabab enough is enough. Because of DC-Fan women cannot feel safe on these boards. You must take action or else I share you under the people that support sexual violence against women too. #teamcolden #hasdcfanbeenbannedyet
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