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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 11, 2018 12:13:36 GMT
Me personally I would like to see the resistance end up being a major antagonist, especially towards Rey. Change it up some!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 15:44:30 GMT
Broken record time: Snoke's alive and he's Plagueis.
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Post by ryboto on Jan 11, 2018 15:59:58 GMT
Broken record time: Snoke's alive and he's Plagueis. I mean, sure, that'd be FUN. But look what the previous two films did. -Mary Sue is now super Sue -Resistance is down to nothing, now we need a "spark" of "hope" to start a new one.. -Kids can use the force for things beyond enhanced feeling or senses completely untrained -First Order has limitless resources and apparently owns the galaxy 5 minutes after TFA having only fired 5 shots from a mega weapon -Or is the Galaxy ungoverned? Who knows? Even if he is Plagueis...to tie up all the garbage plot lines and to overthrow a power as developed as the FO from a band of what, 20 people? - it just doesn't sound like they'll be able to tell all that and wrap up the trilogy in one more movie. Such a sloppy mess. Would have been more interesting for Luke to meet Plagueis, as was mentioned in a thread...so maybe we'll get a film full of Force Ghost. Why the hell not at this point?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 16:19:37 GMT
Broken record time: Snoke's alive and he's Plagueis. I mean, sure, that'd be FUN. But look what the previous two films did. -Mary Sue is now super Sue -Resistance is down to nothing, now we need a "spark" of "hope" to start a new one.. -Kids can use the force for things beyond enhanced feeling or senses completely untrained -First Order has limitless resources and apparently owns the galaxy 5 minutes after TFA having only fired 5 shots from a mega weapon -Or is the Galaxy ungoverned? Who knows? Even if he is Plagueis...to tie up all the garbage plot lines and to overthrow a power as developed as the FO from a band of what, 20 people? - it just doesn't sound like they'll be able to tell all that and wrap up the trilogy in one more movie. Such a sloppy mess. Would have been more interesting for Luke to meet Plagueis, as was mentioned in a thread...so maybe we'll get a film full of Force Ghost. Why the hell not at this point? I know, I know. But it's possible that Ep. IX could simply toss Ep. VIII over its shoulder, not unlike how VIII just ignored VII. Super Sue can be written off as Plagueis' seed and could be retconned to have received some training from him prior to her abandonment on Jakku. I concede: it's a pipe dream filled with band-aids when the whole dam has already broken, but I'd sell my soul back to Disney for Plagueis.
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Post by ryboto on Jan 11, 2018 16:25:55 GMT
ha, maybe you'll get your wish and he'll get his own 'solo' film. I'd probably watch it if those familiar with the Plagueis story said it was decent...I just don't know if I'll get to it for a while...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 16:42:11 GMT
ha, maybe you'll get your wish and he'll get his own 'solo' film. I'd probably watch it if those familiar with the Plagueis story said it was decent...I just don't know if I'll get to it for a while... You know, you'd be surprised at how popular Plagueis is. I have a couple t-shirts and people (well, guys mostly) go out of their way to talk to me about them. I remember the summer after TFA came out, we had a gig at a music festival and I was wearing my Plagueis Lives t-shirt. The 50-year-old sound guy was like, "Love your t-shirt man," while we were tearing down. I was like, "you know the reference?" He's like, "Oh yeah! It's gotta be him. Snoke's gotta be Plagueis. It makes so much sense." Then he called his wife and was like, "Yeah, honey! This guy in one of the bands has a Plagueis Lives t-shirt on! Yeah....yeah, I know, it's awesome. I want one." Just this past weekend I was at a family lunch at a coney island. Had to take my three-year-old to the bathroom. On my way back, some young cook ran out from the kitchen to stop me and say, "Just wanted to let you know that t-shirts awesome man. Love Plagueis!" And it's happened two dozen times in between where strangers see it and want to talk about it.
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Post by mcufan on Jan 11, 2018 17:05:56 GMT
Me personally I would like to see the resistance end up being a major antagonist, especially towards Rey. Change it up some! I would like to see Rey become evil and back.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 11, 2018 18:40:59 GMT
Me personally I would like to see the resistance end up being a major antagonist, especially towards Rey. Change it up some! I would like to see Rey become evil and back. If they make her evil, I don't want a refund redemption arch for her. Infact my dream ending for episode 9 is her, Kylo Ren and both the first order and resistance killed off/destroyed. Let's take a real risk!
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Post by mcufan on Jan 11, 2018 18:43:52 GMT
I would like to see Rey become evil and back. If they make her evil, I don't want a refund redemption arch for her. Infact my dream ending for episode 9 is her, Kylo Ren and both the first order and resistance killed off/destroyed. Let's take a real risk! Clean slate for the galaxy! I like it!
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Post by politicidal on Jan 11, 2018 19:09:26 GMT
How though, there's like twenty people left!
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Post by mcufan on Jan 11, 2018 19:23:46 GMT
How though, there's like twenty people left! What about the Outer RIM allies?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 19:26:10 GMT
How though, there's like twenty people left! Put them all on Raddus II, specifically on the bridge, have a FO ship ramp up to light speed and BLAMO! Let's see Neo Leia survive that one! (Rey will survive because she'll have self-taught on the art of Force shielding)
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 11, 2018 23:35:56 GMT
If they make her evil, I don't want a refund redemption arch for her. Infact my dream ending for episode 9 is her, Kylo Ren and both the first order and resistance killed off/destroyed. Let's take a real risk! Clean slate for the galaxy! I like it! I was thinking more of an ending to the saga, at as far as episodes are concerned. I would like Disney to explore the past, like the first force user and the origin of the Jedi, the Sith and the creation of the Republic.
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Post by mcufan on Jan 11, 2018 23:40:22 GMT
Clean slate for the galaxy! I like it! I was thinking more of an ending to the saga, at as far as episodes are concerned. I would like Disney to explore the past, like the first force user and the origin of the Jedi, the Sith and the creation of the Republic. what about the future without skywalkers? Like 200 or 300 years in the future?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 11, 2018 23:42:59 GMT
I was thinking more of an ending to the saga, at as far as episodes are concerned. I would like Disney to explore the past, like the first force user and the origin of the Jedi, the Sith and the creation of the Republic. what about the future without skywalkers? Like 200 or 300 years in the future? That could work.
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Post by azzajones on Jan 19, 2018 7:41:14 GMT
A few of the Knights of Ren were unhappy with Kylo killing Snoke and taking over, then after Kylo does more & more evil things, they decide to defect to the Resistance. The film opens with a secret meeting between the defecting Knights and Leia, Poe & Rey - since it's a secret meeting Leia has a hood on with her face covered - however Kylo works out they're defecting and crashes the meeting with Storm troopers, where after a fight Leia makes a valiant stand allowing Poe, Rey & the Knight to escape while she stays behind and is killed by Kylo. Rey, Poe & the Knight escape back to the Resistance base, with the Resistance now under the command of Wedge Antilles.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 13:28:52 GMT
A few of the Knights of Ren were unhappy with Kylo killing Snoke and taking over, then after Kylo does more & more evil things, they decide to defect to the Resistance. The film opens with a secret meeting between the defecting Knights and Leia, Poe & Rey - since it's a secret meeting Leia has a hood on with her face covered - however Kylo works out they're defecting and crashes the meeting with Storm troopers, where after a fight Leia makes a valiant stand allowing Poe, Rey & the Knight to escape while she stays behind and is killed by Kylo. Rey, Poe & the Knight escape back to the Resistance base, with the Resistance now under the command of Wedge Antilles. Yeah, where the hell is Wedge??? They made a big damn deal about him and Lando still doing their things in the Aftermath series and we still haven't seen either one in a ST film. What the hell?
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Post by ryboto on Jan 19, 2018 13:50:28 GMT
A few of the Knights of Ren were unhappy with Kylo killing Snoke and taking over, then after Kylo does more & more evil things, they decide to defect to the Resistance. The film opens with a secret meeting between the defecting Knights and Leia, Poe & Rey - since it's a secret meeting Leia has a hood on with her face covered - however Kylo works out they're defecting and crashes the meeting with Storm troopers, where after a fight Leia makes a valiant stand allowing Poe, Rey & the Knight to escape while she stays behind and is killed by Kylo. Rey, Poe & the Knight escape back to the Resistance base, with the Resistance now under the command of Wedge Antilles. Yeah, where the hell is Wedge??? They made a big damn deal about him and Lando still doing their things in the Aftermath series and we still haven't seen either one in a ST film. What the hell? As I'm not interested in this new universe, I hadn't read the Aftermath stuff...I just assumed they were dead.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 15:40:54 GMT
Yeah, where the hell is Wedge??? They made a big damn deal about him and Lando still doing their things in the Aftermath series and we still haven't seen either one in a ST film. What the hell? As I'm not interested in this new universe, I hadn't read the Aftermath stuff...I just assumed they were dead. Just another reason TFA/TLJ are disappointing as a combo. I let it slide that Wedge and Lando weren't mentioned in TFA because TFA had to introduce us to the new cast and it brought back pretty much everyone else from the OT. One film can only do so much. But in the Aftermath books - which are supposed to work in tandem with the new movies - Wedge not only appears, but plays a pretty big role. I'd say he was probably the ninth most-featured character in the trilogy (there's a band of six new heroes - one of whom makes a cameo in TFA by the way - and two main villains that are the most-featured, but Wedge being by far the most featured supporting character and having several major plot investments). And when the story's over, he's still alive. So where is he? Same with Lando. There were two interlude chapters that featured Lando in the trilogy. They had nothing to do with the main plots except to show that the Empire's power was quickly waning. So why show us Lando (Lobot too!) is alive (and kicking ass by the way) if he wasn't going to make a grand entrance in a film? But then again, they made a big deal about Vader's red light saber being found by a dark side cult (and used!). They also made a big deal about Boba Fett's armor being found (and used!). These were also interlude chapters that had nothing whatsoever to do with the main plot. So you'd think that adding these side stories to the book in between TFA and TLJ were indications that Rey finding Anakin's blue light saber at Maz's castle was not just an Abrams mystery box, but was in fact, a cleverly unfolding plot about how powerful relics were going to play a role in the ST's plot. But just like how the TFA novelization alluded to Snoke in several ways as a bridge character between the PT, OT and ST, it's all just garbage in the dumpster that RJ lit on fire.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 19, 2018 19:07:07 GMT
Broken record time: Snoke's alive and he's Plagueis. At the least, it won't surprise me if they have some throwaway line explaining who he was.
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