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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 3:15:03 GMT
Really? You wouldn't prefer to play against the Eagles in a neutral field, without their franchise QB, rather than the Vikings at home with their franchise QB? I don't understand why you wouldn't want the Eagles to prevail next week. And yes, the Jags will be a worthy opponent but I think you'll beat them. Dude, Case Keenum is not their 'franchise QB.' I don't see Keenum as any better or worse than Foles. I think either team could be tough and if Philly beats the Vikes, they should be respected as much as anyone else. And yeah like I said, I wouldn't want to play the Vikes on their home field but as matchups go, one team doesn't scare me more or less than the other. Sam Bradford, back-up for Keenum. They will all three be free agents next season. Wanna bet that the Vikings will be investing in Keenum? |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 15, 2018 3:39:22 GMT
Dude, Case Keenum is not their 'franchise QB.' I don't see Keenum as any better or worse than Foles. I think either team could be tough and if Philly beats the Vikes, they should be respected as much as anyone else. And yeah like I said, I wouldn't want to play the Vikes on their home field but as matchups go, one team doesn't scare me more or less than the other. Sam Bradford, back-up for Keenum. They will all three be free agents next season. Wanna bet that the Vikings will be investing in Keenum? Bradford was brought in after Bridgewater went down. Whatever they do next season, they never intended Case Keenum to be the man in Minnesota until they had no better alternative. He is their starting QB this season, he is not 'their franchise QB,' as if the team is built around him.
To reiterate, I do not fear Case Keenum any more or less than I do Nick Foles.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 15, 2018 3:44:03 GMT
First we have to beat the Jags-- and say what you want, if they can manhandle the Steelers that way, they can play with anyone. Very true. I'm seeing a lot of people say "if Ben can put up 42 points on the Jaguars, then just think what Brady will do." Thing is, it's never that simple. The Falcons gave up more points to the apparently rudderless Eagles offense than they did the high-powered Rams. The Dolphins get shut out by the Saints in London but beat the Patriots in Miami. The Rodgers-less Packers can get shut out by the Ravens at home and then go into Pittsburgh the following week and put up 28 points. It rarely works out the way you'd expect and the NFL doesn't really follow some simple formula like "Player A is better than Player B and Player B put up x points on Team C, so player A will put up even more points against Team C." I'm actually sure that the Patriots won't score 42 points next week. Agreed. Saying "if Ben can put up 42 points on the Jaguars, then just think what Brady will do" is as stupid as saying if Brady can put up 38 points against the Giants' defense on the Giants' home field, just think what Brady can do against the Giants' defense on a neutral field in Super Bowl XLII".
Plaxico Burress: "23-17, Giants".
Brady: "Ha Ha Ha! He's only giving us 17 points? Ha Ha Ha. We're going to put up 42 points."
Actual score: Giants 17, Patriots 14.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 15, 2018 3:47:16 GMT
As a neutral fan I'm just annoyed the game was won/lost on a bonehead play by the DB. A Hail Mary that got deflected would've been more dramatic and enjoyable. A DB shitting his pants and throwing his body at nothing in particular (and taking out the only other guy who could've made the tackle) is a lame way for a playoff game to end. I'm happy for Vikes fans, I'll say that. As a Pats fan I don't want to have to play the Vikes in their home stadium in the SB, but let's not put the cart before the horse. First we have to beat the Jags-- and say what you want, if they can manhandle the Steelers that way, they can play with anyone. As far as Philly/Minnesota, I can't say I have a preferred opponent between the two. Really? You wouldn't prefer to play against the Eagles in a neutral field, without their franchise QB, rather than the Vikings at home with their franchise QB? Fans of the other 3 teams are definitely rooting against Minnesota because if Minnesota wins the NFC Championship, then Minnesota will most likely win the Super Bowl on their home field. It'll be almost like when the 49ers played Super Bowl XIX at Stanford Stadium. |
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Post by Xeliou66 on Jan 15, 2018 4:05:30 GMT
Bradford was brought in after Bridgewater went down. Whatever they do next season, they never intended Case Keenum to be the man in Minnesota until they had no better alternative. He is their starting QB this season, he is not 'their franchise QB,' as if the team is built around him.
To reiterate, I do not fear Case Keenum any more or less than I do Nick Foles.
I disagree, I think Case Keenum is the Vikings franchise QB, he’s impressed me a lot more than either Bridgewater or Bradford has. He will be their starting QB next year no matter what happens now IMO, he’s led them to a great season. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 15, 2018 4:07:36 GMT
Really? You wouldn't prefer to play against the Eagles in a neutral field, without their franchise QB, rather than the Vikings at home with their franchise QB? Fans of the other 3 teams are definitely rooting against Minnesota because if Minnesota wins the NFC Championship, then Minnesota will most likely win the Super Bowl on their home field. It'll be almost like when the 49ers played Super Bowl XIX at Stanford Stadium. Will home field be that big of an advantage? Sure it will be nice to sleep in your own bed, but the crowd noise will be less. Not all the tickets will go to Viking fans.it will be nice but not as much of a plus as this weeks games. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 15, 2018 4:11:11 GMT
Fans of the other 3 teams are definitely rooting against Minnesota because if Minnesota wins the NFC Championship, then Minnesota will most likely win the Super Bowl on their home field. It'll be almost like when the 49ers played Super Bowl XIX at Stanford Stadium. Will home field be that big of an advantage? Sure it will be nice to sleep in your own bed, but the crowd noise will be less. Not all the tickets will go to Viking fans.it will be nice but not as much of a plus as this weeks games. If the Vikings are in the Super Bowl, many Vikings fans would probably be willing to pay a high price for those tickets. So many people who have tickets would probably be tempted to sell their tickets to a Vikings fan and just watch the game on TV. That's what happened when the 49ers played Super Bowl XIX at Stanford Stadium. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 15, 2018 4:14:45 GMT
Will home field be that big of an advantage? Sure it will be nice to sleep in your own bed, but the crowd noise will be less. Not all the tickets will go to Viking fans.it will be nice but not as much of a plus as this weeks games. If the Vikings are in the Super Bowl, many Vikings fans would probably be willing to pay a high price for those tickets. So many people who have tickets would probably be tempted to sell their tickets to a Vikings fan and just watch the game on TV. Because Patriot fans wouldn't be willing to spend top dollar to cheer their team on in the Superbowl? Now, if you had argued that Vikings fans should have more disposable income given how many playoff/Superbowl games Pats fans have had to pay for the past 17 years, you might have a legitimate argument. #1stteamproblems |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 15, 2018 4:23:31 GMT
Because Patriot fans wouldn't be willing to spend top dollar to cheer their team on in the Superbowl? Now, if you had argued that Vikings fans should have more disposable income given how many playoff/Superbowl games Pats fans have had to pay for the past 17 years, you might have a legitimate argument. #1stteamproblems Patriots fans are bandwagon fans and don't travel to road games. The patriots know this. That's why they usually make it a point to play all their playoff games at home. There is something wrong with my eyes, though, because I see an awful lot of bandwagoners at these 7 Superbowls the previous 15 years. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 15, 2018 4:28:17 GMT
If the Vikings are in the Super Bowl, many Vikings fans would probably be willing to pay a high price for those tickets. So many people who have tickets would probably be tempted to sell their tickets to a Vikings fan and just watch the game on TV. Because Patriot fans wouldn't be willing to spend top dollar to cheer their team on in the Superbowl? 1st, why would Patriots fans spend money to see the Jaguars play in the Super Bowl?
2nd, Vikings fans will be able to pay more than Jaguars fans for Super Bowl tickets because Vikings fans won't have to spend money for airfare and hotel rooms.
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 15, 2018 4:35:48 GMT
Even if the Vikings lose next week, Diggs has solidifies himself as a Minnesota legend. That play is going to live forever here. That was crazy. That's the kind of play that usually happens AGAINST the Vikings, not for them. And I can't believe Forbath even made that 53 yard field goal. MINNESOTA KICKERS DO NOT DO THOSE THINGS IN THE PLAYOFFS. |
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 15, 2018 4:45:51 GMT
That was crazy. That's the kind of play that usually happens AGAINST the Vikings, not for them. And I can't believe Forbath even made that 53 yard field goal. MINNESOTA KICKERS DO NOT DO THOSE THINGS IN THE PLAYOFFS. Forbath came through for us big time. I don't even want to think about the possibility of next week coming down to a field goal though. As happy as I am, I do feel empathy for Marcus Williams. Nobody ever wants to feel as shitty as he probably does right now. I hope he gets a chance to redeem himself at some point. Eh, Williams is a rookie and had a great first season. He also had a pick in the game so it's a shame that he'll be remembered for the Diggs play. |
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 15, 2018 5:05:05 GMT
Doug Marrone postgame speech:
Mike Zimmer postgame speech:
Doug Pederson postgame speech:
Bill Belichick postgame speech: "Big fuckin' whoop. See you assholes at 9am tomorrow morning, and don't be late. Do your fuckin' jobs."
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 15, 2018 5:37:09 GMT
Will home field be that big of an advantage? Sure it will be nice to sleep in your own bed, but the crowd noise will be less. Not all the tickets will go to Viking fans.it will be nice but not as much of a plus as this weeks games. If the Vikings are in the Super Bowl, many Vikings fans would probably be willing to pay a high price for those tickets. So many people who have tickets would probably be tempted to sell their tickets to a Vikings fan and just watch the game on TV. That's what happened when the 49ers played Super Bowl XIX at Stanford Stadium. Not cost but a availability. 17.5% of the tickets go to each conference champions. Another 5% go to the host city. So less that a quarter of the seats are available to Viking fans. The rest are sold to the rich and famous throughout the land. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 15, 2018 5:59:41 GMT
Even if the Vikings lose next week, Diggs has solidifies himself as a Minnesota legend. That play is going to live forever here. That was crazy. That's the kind of play that usually happens AGAINST the Vikings, not for them. And I can't believe Forbath even made that 53 yard field goal. MINNESOTA KICKERS DO NOT DO THOSE THINGS IN THE PLAYOFFS. This looks like it could be the Vikings year. They make a 53-yard FG. They win the game with an unbelievable play on the last play of the game. They have the #1 defense in the NFL this season. And they could be the 1st team to play the Super Bowl on their home field.
It's a lot like the 2012 Ravens. They won their divisional playoff game at Denver in 2OT after an incredible 70-yard TD when the Broncos' safety let the Ravens' receiver get behind him and then they rode that momentum all the way to a Super Bowl win.
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 15, 2018 6:42:47 GMT
Because Patriot fans wouldn't be willing to spend top dollar to cheer their team on in the Superbowl? why would Patriots fans spend money to see the Jaguars play in the Super Bowl?
Because they made so much money in Vegas betting against your predictions these past few years? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 15, 2018 8:27:38 GMT
The play and all the celebration after. In case you want to rewatch it 20 times like me. Just noticed this. Not only did Williams not make the tackle but he also ended up knocking down his own teammate, preventing his own teammate from possibly chasing down the receiver. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 12:28:22 GMT
Bradford was brought in after Bridgewater went down. Whatever they do next season, they never intended Case Keenum to be the man in Minnesota until they had no better alternative. He is their starting QB this season, he is not 'their franchise QB,' as if the team is built around him.
To reiterate, I do not fear Case Keenum any more or less than I do Nick Foles.
Sure but what I'm saying is that if Keenum continues to do what he's been doing (he just beat Drew Brees), when all three are free agents, I bet the Vikings will let Bridgewater and Bradford go and will offer a good contract extension to Keenum. Especially if he wins the Super Bowl which is really not impossible at this point, with the home field advantage (provided that he achieves the first step of beating the Eagles). So maybe I phrased it poorly; I should have said "with their future franchise quarterback" - while even if by some miracle Foles wins the Super Bowl, he will go back to being the back-up when Wentz gets healthy. When you get headlines like this one, you earn a lot of clout: www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/266670/case-keenum-stefon-diggs-play-one-of-greatest-in-nfl-playoff-history-2The thing is, after 16 months of absence, and devastating injury, it's not even certain if Bridgewater will ever be the same (these things sometimes don't heal completely, and you end-up with an unstable knee, less balance, less speed, worse proprioception). Even before the injury, he had two good seasons but largely thanks to his defense and aggressive ground game. Now, he came back in garbage time, got his first snap in 16 months... and threw an interception. I think the Vikings will experiment with him a bit more... and if it is rapidly visible that he's not the same, bye-bye, and the crown goes to the 2017 hero, Case Keenum, who had a regular season passing average of 98.3 which is rather good, and is not mistake-prone (22 TDs vs. 7 interceptions in the regular season). Keenum is only 29 years old so it's likely that they'd keep him for several years if he continues to do well. Here is an opinion from a debate on ESPN that happened on December 1st, that is, before this additional success we saw yesterday: "Domonique Foxworth, a former NFL player and current writer for The Undefeated. Here’s why he feels that the Vikings go with Keenum over Bridgewater: Keenum is my guess. But I am not confident. Both Keenum and Bridgewater will be free agents in 2018, so it'll be an interesting offseason in Minnesota. I'm betting that Keenum will be able to sustain this high level of production for the rest of the season, and I can't imagine a franchise moving on from a proven option at the most important position." The "I'm not confident" part was before yesterday, and sure, it's because Mike Zimmer loves Bridgewater. But this love will sour rapidly if Bridgewater tries to come back and is a shadow of his former self and throws a lot of interceptions. Then you have the hero of 2017 watching from the sideline while the guy with the destroyed knee struggles? Unlikely. The NFL is a cold business, and if the king is dead, long live the new king. Another factor is the status of offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur, who apparently favors Keenum over Bridgewater. If he stays, it's more likely that Keenum gets the nod. If he leaves, then maybe Keenum will leave with him. Certainly there are many NFL teams in dire need of a QB, and if Keenum wins the Super Bowl or at least wins the NFC, there would be a lot of people willing to hire him. But all things considered, my bet is that he'll stay in Minneapolis, and the other two will be the ones going away, while the team drafts a young quarterback to develop in the next several years, under Keenum. It is likely that Keenum himself wants to stay there. Here is what he said: “I’ve got an organization that believes in me, and a system that I can succeed in,” Keenum wrote in The Players’ Tribune. “I’ve got this great group of close-knit teammates, who have become this great group of close-knit friends. And I’m living in this amazing community — that loves, and lives, and breathes football.” --------------- Any opinion from Vikings fans who must know more about this than I do? |
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Post by Marv on Jan 15, 2018 12:37:38 GMT
Chicken takes more than a few hours to digest. Found this out.
::sick face::
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 15, 2018 13:01:02 GMT
The play and all the celebration after. In case you want to rewatch it 20 times like me. I could rewatch it a million times and I still wouldn't understand what the DB is doing. It looks like he's throwing a block on the other defender instead of trying to stop the receiver from catching the ball. That's the thing with big games, I guess. Sometimes somebody makes an amazing play, but sometimes the ball just goes through Buckner's legs. |
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