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Post by charzhino on Apr 4, 2018 10:15:41 GMT
If he could control time, nothing would've stopped him. Nothing was stopping him, he was handling opposition with ease. Hardly the films fault. Apocalypse was written to be OP, even in instances where was ripped by Magneto for example, its only because the writers let him otherwise Apocalypse can simply change his molecular armour to durable plastic. Phoenix killing him in the film is no more of a ex machine to Surtur killing Hela.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 4, 2018 11:50:25 GMT
If he could control time, nothing would've stopped him. Nothing was stopping him, he was handling opposition with ease. If he could control time, not even Phoenix would've been able to stop him. In fact, if he could control time there wouldn't have been a movie and he'd have won as soon as he revived. Surtur was set up much better and was a villain, meaning they can't just summon his power whenever they need an easy out. Plus using him was still a loss because it meant sacrificing Asgard the place to save Asgard the people. Not so with X-Men, where they want to have their cake and east it too and keep it around to use whenever they need an easy plot contrivance to end the story because they were too incompetent to think of better ways.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 4, 2018 12:48:29 GMT
Surtur was set up much better and was a villain, meaning they can't just summon his power whenever they need an easy out. Plus using him was still a loss because it meant sacrificing Asgard the place to save Asgard the people. There was no set up for Surtur, just a brief cameo in the first 5 minutes and forgotten until the end. Jeans troubling Phoneix powers was gradually shown throughout in Apocalypse and in 3 films in the original trilogy. And Phoneix force resurgence meant sacrificing Jean at the end of X2 and leading to her eventual death in X3, and will lead into her despondent crazed state in Dark Phoneix film. More impactful than a bunch of faceless Asgardians being rescued but still alive.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 4, 2018 12:51:51 GMT
There was no set up for Surtur, just a brief cameo in the first 5 minutes and forgotten until the end. Showing him at the start and explaining his role in destiny is all we need. What do you want, the very first scene in the first Thor movie being a flash-forward of Surtur destroying Asgard? It wasn't in the first X-Men movie, it just started coming out of nowhere in X2. A really silly sacrifice to create false drama. Which they'll likely botch, just like last time.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 4, 2018 16:55:57 GMT
Surtur was set up much better and was a villain, meaning they can't just summon his power whenever they need an easy out. Plus using him was still a loss because it meant sacrificing Asgard the place to save Asgard the people. There was no set up for Surtur, just a brief cameo in the first 5 minutes and forgotten until the end. Jeans troubling Phoneix powers was gradually shown throughout in Apocalypse and in 3 films in the original trilogy. And Phoneix force resurgence meant sacrificing Jean at the end of X2 and leading to her eventual death in X3, and will lead into her despondent crazed state in Dark Phoneix film. More impactful than a bunch of faceless Asgardians being rescued but still alive. Age of Ultron also sets up Ragnarok.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 21:16:52 GMT
FINALLY got around to watching JL last night and WOW I knew it'd probably be lackluster but this was really REALLY bad. It pains me to type that too cause I am more of a DC fan . JL was a big incoherent mess. Will never watch it again . 3/10
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 5, 2018 13:21:55 GMT
DC fans are seriously pathetic. How can anyone think SS or JL even compares to SM:HC or Thor 3? It is comical.
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Post by cricket on Apr 5, 2018 13:35:23 GMT
DC fans are seriously pathetic. How can anyone think SS or JL even compares to SM:HC or Thor 3? It is comical. You say it best, they are pathetic. They like to call Marvel fans manchildren (and many other things in this very board) with an amusement vibe to it, but they don't understand that this is how we see DC fans, as pathetic beings, with a pitiable vibe to it...
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 5, 2018 14:06:29 GMT
The DCEU is that goth/emo kid in high school who used to be kinda cute as a toddler and all the grannies cooed over him. Now he's hit puberty, slathered on white makeup and dyed his hair extra black (it's already black!). He then refuses to look at anyone in eye, wears an overly long black coat and swooshes' around in heavy textured combat boots cuz he desperately wants to be in a Marilyn Manson video. And when the grannies wonder what happened to him and his parents try to get him to open (hey try something normal, you might get girls); he refuses and insists on over dramatic rock tunes that talk about death and darkness (think nine inch nails and early Linkin Park). The DCEU like this goth dude, has zero friends (partly because he's alienated them: think those who loved Christopher Reeve movies and TDK) and doesn't even try to get new ones. Instead he sulks around, reads grim-dark angel comics and broods when the teacher announces a school trip. It doesn't help that the only area available for him to sit in class is the corner where he is forced to listen to girls swoon over the golden boy MCU.
To the goth kid, the golden boy is everything he hates but the golden boy MCU doesn't mind the goth kid at all and even acknowledges him occasionally but the goth!DCEU just can't be bothered and just wishes he'd shut the eff up and disappear. This is cuz the MCU is tall, built like a brick and is blond with blue eyes. He's super popular with the staff, the cheer-leading squad, and even some of the losers. He has a gaggle of chad friends who high five each other in the hallway and they don't even need to try to get good grades. How can Goth!DCEU even compete? So he starts flunking gym class and the days where he has to go - he can't keep racking up detention hours forever - goth!DCEU has to watch the athletic prowess of chad!MCU. The MCU gains 14 straight wins in a row and when it's the DCEU's turn he gives a middling performance at best (Man of Steel). So goth!DCEU vows to compete academically and he thinks his magnum opus will be rewarded during the class presentation. I mean he can be a good speaker when he wants to be - yet his attempt at a philosophical thesis where he meshes Greek, Roman and Judeo-Christian ideas into a weird hodgepodge of bonkers is simply met with befuddled stares by his classmates and his teacher thinks he might be a potential cat-killer. This is clearly not the reaction goth!DCEU wanted and when the pretty girls giggle and CHAD!MCU slings an arm around one of them, goth!DCEU just loses it vowing to win the supposed battle.
Chad!MCU meanwhile is perplexed and laughs some more, then his chad friends join and the teacher smirks like "SURE JAN". Emotionally embarrassed, goth!DCEU starts sending death threats and storms out the class before the teacher could call the cops. He is thus branded a weirdo though chad!MCU does admit that he feels sorry for him but it's too late cuz rumors spread about goth!DCEU about his weirdness. So Goth!DCEU retreats even further into dark, grim and brooding and for his assignment vows to add a few ironic jokes (Justice League). The entire assignment is about where he hopes to be in the future but all he wants to present is a black screen with a creepy face where you're unsure if it's laughing or frowning. However, this defiant edge-lord attitude gains him two fans (a nebbish weirdo with bad acne and a gangly sunlight deprived basket case) that go on a mission to defend him wherever they go. They memorize the dictionary for pretentious words, write long treatises and read Shakespeare to find insults to hurl. They find goth!DCEU lurking around during recess and they just go stand next to him. Goth! DCEU hates that someone even dared come near him and he moves aside but the two weird kids follow him and they show him their fan-art. They titter on like losers about how cool his outburst was and how they hate chad!MCU and as if on cue, chad!MCU walks past with his large posse and admirers, they roar in laughter and hop into his expensive billion dollar Lamborghini, a marvel to behold but little did goth! DCEU know, was that his deep murderous frown was mirrored by the two losers next to him. One of the losers then takes out a phone and plays: "you make me wanna die" revealing knife scars on his wrist and goth!DCEU gets an idea and decides to rope the two losers into it. Something which most definitely won't end well.
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