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Post by thenewnexus on Jan 18, 2018 22:39:03 GMT
There is no jokes and its dark. The only good movie is Winter Soldier everything is campy. Even Iron Fist which I didn't like was a perfect 10 compared to the movies.
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Post by scabab on Jan 18, 2018 22:54:21 GMT
It's not like jokes are a bad thing. It's a good thing to laugh but yes they do go overboard with it sometimes.
Daredevil is arguably the best MCU product but aside from Jessica Jones I wouldn't really put the shows on the same level as the movies.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 19, 2018 0:12:14 GMT
There is no jokes and its dark. The only good movie is Winter Soldier everything is campy. Even Iron Fist which I didn't like was a perfect 10 compared to the movies. There *are* jokes in the Netflix shows, pay better attention. And if dark=good you must love Star Trek Discovery and hate The Orville.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 0:14:25 GMT
Again, the rest of the world disagrees with you.
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Post by thenewnexus on Jan 19, 2018 0:44:48 GMT
There is no jokes and its dark. The only good movie is Winter Soldier everything is campy. Even Iron Fist which I didn't like was a perfect 10 compared to the movies. There *are* jokes in the Netflix shows, pay better attention. And if dark=good you must love Star Trek Discovery and hate The Orville. I have not seen any forced Humor on the shows
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 19, 2018 2:56:30 GMT
There is no jokes and its dark. No, there are jokes. As for being "dark", that doesn't mean it's any good. You must really hate Star Wars, Star Trek, Indiana Jones, Dr Who, Ghostbusters and numerous other classics.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 19, 2018 3:14:01 GMT
They've all been 1/10 except Daredevil season 1 in my opinion.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jan 19, 2018 3:19:19 GMT
Dude Kat Dennings has a great sense of humor, you’re never gonna get to bang her if you have no sense of humor!
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 19, 2018 3:23:41 GMT
Very few MCU movies have forced humor.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 19, 2018 3:25:47 GMT
Whenever comic book movies try be "dark and gritty," they usually make the ACTUAL STUPID THINGS (grown men dressing up as bats, alien armies comin' over here with there lasers) stand out like a sore thumb. This is why I couldn't get over the cartoon lizard rat in the Amazing Spider-Man.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 19, 2018 5:21:09 GMT
Most of their Netflix shows are the real authentic Marvel. Their movies are just Disney soulless products.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 19, 2018 5:21:44 GMT
There *are* jokes in the Netflix shows, pay better attention. And if dark=good you must love Star Trek Discovery and hate The Orville. I have not seen any forced Humor on the shows Define "forced humor", compare and contrast jokes from the shows and movies to prove your point, also are you typing on your phone or something?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 19, 2018 5:25:28 GMT
Most of their Netflix shows are the real authentic Marvel. Their movies are just Disney soulless products. What do you mean by "real authentic Marvel"? And the first two Iron Man movies and The Incredible Hulk were being made before Disney bought the company wholesale, the rest of phase one was also in development before the deal was done.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 19, 2018 6:35:40 GMT
Most of their Netflix shows are the real authentic Marvel. Their movies are just Disney soulless products. What do you mean by "real authentic Marvel"? And the first two Iron Man movies and The Incredible Hulk were being made before Disney bought the company wholesale, the rest of phase one was also in development before the deal was done. True for Iron Man, which is the reason you also noticed his sequel movies sharply declined because that was the time Disney took over and started dumbing him down. True for Hulk too. Another reason Ed Norton's Hulk was the best Hulk because despite the flaws of the film, Ed Norton's Hulk was more of a character study version of Hulk, which is more than I can say for the Hulk in thor 3 that is a gag joke. Real authentic marvel is what marvel truly is once you strip away the disney over the top kid friendly influence. Another example is the MCU cartoons of today that are a complete failure and getting cancelled always and the cartoons from the 1990s and early 2000s. X-Men TAS, X-Men Evolution and Spiderman TAS, Spectacular Spiderman.
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Post by scabab on Jan 19, 2018 6:40:43 GMT
Very few MCU movies have forced humor. Some of the jokes can be a bit forced. Just for example, the whole Beyonce joke in Doctor Strange. That was forced and it wasn't funny. The smaller jokes like the Shambala WiFi password work better.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 19, 2018 7:06:07 GMT
What do you mean by "real authentic Marvel"? And the first two Iron Man movies and The Incredible Hulk were being made before Disney bought the company wholesale, the rest of phase one was also in development before the deal was done. True for Iron Man, which is the reason you also noticed his sequel movies sharply declined because that was the time Disney took over and started dumbing him down. True for Hulk too. Another reason Ed Norton's Hulk was the best Hulk because despite the flaws of the film, Ed Norton's Hulk was more of a character study version of Hulk, which is more than I can say for the Hulk in thor 3 that is a gag joke. Real authentic marvel is what marvel truly is once you strip away the disney over the top kid friendly influence. Another example is the MCU cartoons of today that are a complete failure and getting cancelled always and the cartoons from the 1990s and early 2000s. X-Men TAS, X-Men Evolution and Spiderman TAS, Spectacular Spiderman. Dumbing down in what way? Be specific. Also be more in-depth when you say "once you strip away the Disney over the top kid friendly influence", what do you mean exactly? A lot of cartoon shows today based on comic books are not as good as they used to be, and it's more than just the Marvel based ones. Despite a couple exceptions, most animated programing intended for adolescents is just not on the level of what the 90's were like, and it's not because of Disney.
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Post by thenewnexus on Jan 19, 2018 8:39:21 GMT
I have not seen any forced Humor on the shows Define "forced humor", compare and contrast jokes from the shows and movies to prove your point, also are you typing on your phone or something? Anytime Tony Stark talks,Age of Ultron Ultron trying to be a comedian,Dr Strange is full of Jokes too,Strange is trying to make Wong laugh and at the end he does.Spiderman Homecoming is pretty much a disney show
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Post by thenewnexus on Jan 19, 2018 8:41:53 GMT
One more thing its hypocritical to praise campy Marvel films and bash campy DC films. JL is no different than Guardians,Ragnerok or Homecoming
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 19, 2018 10:07:32 GMT
Possibly. An abundance of forced jokes is part of the MCU movie formula and always a sign that you do not have anything new to say, story, idea or structure wise.
Worse, the "Marvel poison" has affected other franchises too, just look at the Yo Mamma jokes in the last Star Wars, even Yoda behaves more than a squishy-turd-in-your-pillow Raccon by stupidly quipping and blowing things up.
Ceterum censeo Marvelem delendam esse.
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Post by King Conan on Jan 19, 2018 13:41:24 GMT
The MCU shows are better, because they are more story and character driven. The movies are just mindless CGI orgies where buildings and whole countries are destroyed, and innocent people a killed.
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