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Post by Skaathar on Jan 19, 2018 15:06:21 GMT
Very few MCU movies have forced humor. Some of the jokes can be a bit forced. Just for example, the whole Beyonce joke in Doctor Strange. That was forced and it wasn't funny. The smaller jokes like the Shambala WiFi password work better. That's what I meant, very few have forced humor. Dr. Strange and gotg2 are two of those offenders. Most of the other movies have dry, witty jokes. they may or may not be funny for some people but majority aren't forced. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 19, 2018 15:25:42 GMT
The comic books have "forced" humor. The comics are also kid friendly. At least they were back when they actually sold in large numbers. When most of the DC characters were created they were aimed at 8-10 year olds. The Marvel superheros were aimed at tweens and early teens.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 19, 2018 17:00:51 GMT
One more thing its hypocritical to praise campy Marvel films and bash campy DC films. JL is no different than Guardians,Ragnerok or Homecoming I'm sorry, but are you saying it's hypocritical to praise good films while bashing bland films? |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 19, 2018 17:31:19 GMT
One more thing its hypocritical to praise campy Marvel films and bash campy DC films. JL is no different than Guardians,Ragnerok or Homecoming I'm sorry, but are you saying it's hypocritical to praise good films while bashing bland films? I'm sorry, no, he is saying it's hypocritical to praise bland films while bashing good films. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 19, 2018 17:35:34 GMT
Define "forced humor", compare and contrast jokes from the shows and movies to prove your point, also are you typing on your phone or something? Anytime Tony Stark talks,Age of Ultron Ultron trying to be a comedian,Dr Strange is full of Jokes too,Strange is trying to make Wong laugh and at the end he does.Spiderman Homecoming is pretty much a disney show "Anytime Tony Stark talks" Any and every time? What are specific examples? How do they feel forced to you? "Age of Ultron Ultron trying to be a comedian" When did he? "Dr Strange is full of jokes too, Strange is trying to make Wong laugh and at the end he does." So why did the jokes feel forced to you? Answer. "Spider-Man Homecoming is pretty much a Disney show" Elaborate. I also asked you to compare the jokes in the MCU movies and the jokes on the Netflix shows and explain why one is forced the other isn't. You didn't do such. You are not very good at debating, I'm sorry. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 19, 2018 17:38:05 GMT
One more thing its hypocritical to praise campy Marvel films and bash campy DC films. JL is no different than Guardians,Ragnerok or Homecoming It isn't hypocritical, those films were better put together than JL and whatever comedy and camp were used in them felt more organic to their stories than JL. It's simple as that. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 19, 2018 17:42:20 GMT
I'm sorry, but are you saying it's hypocritical to praise good films while bashing bland films? I'm sorry, no, he is saying it's hypocritical to praise bland films while bashing good films. JL isn't exactly what I'd call a great movie, or even a very good movie. "Passable" sure, "fun" sure, "serviceable" I can see why but it has lots of problems in its storytelling and compared to GOTG Vol 2, Ragnarok, and Homecoming it is an inferior product when you look at the effectiveness of what goals were intended to be accomplished and in terms of character progression. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 19, 2018 17:57:42 GMT
I'm sorry, but are you saying it's hypocritical to praise good films while bashing bland films? I'm sorry, no, he is saying it's hypocritical to praise bland films while bashing good films. So you're both saying it's hypocritical to praise Justice League while bashing films like Thor Ragnarok or Spiderman HC? Gotcha. Glad we can agree on that. |
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Post by Larcen26 on Jan 19, 2018 19:15:32 GMT
"The best thing about MCU are the Netflix Shows"
This I agree with.
But it's not because of the lack of levity, it's because of better development of characters and story.
That being said, I'd take all of the movies over Iron Fist, and I'd take most of the movies before "The Defenders". And I'd take the best of the movies over the second half of "Luke Cage".
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Post by thenewnexus on Jan 19, 2018 22:40:59 GMT
One more thing its hypocritical to praise campy Marvel films and bash campy DC films. JL is no different than Guardians,Ragnerok or Homecoming I'm sorry, but are you saying it's hypocritical to praise good films while bashing bland films? They are bland though. MOS is DCs only good movie amd WS is Marvels good movie. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 19, 2018 22:48:14 GMT
I'm sorry, but are you saying it's hypocritical to praise good films while bashing bland films? They are bland though. MOS is DCs only good movie amd WS is Marvels good movie. Majority of general audience and critics disagree with you. In fact, majority would rate MOS about as good as MCU's worst films. |
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Jan 19, 2018 23:09:26 GMT
They are bland though. MOS is DCs only good movie amd WS is Marvels good movie. Majority of general audience and critics disagree with you. In fact, majority would rate MOS about as good as MCU's worst films. MOS has a vocal minority who love it, a love that interestingly only seems to inspire anger. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 19, 2018 23:19:31 GMT
They are bland though. MOS is DCs only good movie amd WS is Marvels good movie. Majority of general audience and critics disagree with you. In fact, majority would rate MOS about as good as MCU's worst films. Doubtful. An even if so, the absolute majority of general audience rates DC Batman and Superman films way way higher than any MCU, up to the top 5. And the DC shows are rated so much higher anyway than any MCU shows. All relative. And all a clumsy bandwagon argument. A million flies cannot be wrong about a piece of raccoon turd in your estimation? If so: enjoy. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 19, 2018 23:22:03 GMT
As opposed to anytime Frank Castle talks? His mind was based on Starks. Can you actually quote any of them? No, it's just not ashamed of itself anymore. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 19, 2018 23:23:36 GMT
the absolute majority of general audience rates DC Batman and Superman films Around the same as MCU films. Of course, in Batman and Superman's case it's more for nostalgia than actual real value. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 19, 2018 23:50:34 GMT
the absolute majority of general audience rates DC Batman and Superman films Around the same as MCU films. in your fantasy, sam. I see TDK on 4 on the all time favorites, MCU movies a few hundred places below. If that is all the same to you... and don't you forgot about those awards and adjusted critics ratings  |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 19, 2018 23:51:26 GMT
Around the same as MCU films. I see TDK on 4 on the all time favorites, MCU movies a few hundred places below. Sympathy for dead actors does that. And TDK not having to compete against other major CBMs aside from Iron Man (which did almost as good, but didn't have a dead actor to hype it up). Real competition is why TDKR didn't do as well nor is as remembered. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 20, 2018 0:01:42 GMT
Majority of general audience and critics disagree with you. In fact, majority would rate MOS about as good as MCU's worst films. Doubtful. An even if so, the absolute majority of general audience rates DC Batman and Superman films way way higher than any MCU, up to the top 5. And the DC shows are rated so much higher anyway than any MCU shows. All relative. And all a clumsy bandwagon argument. A million flies cannot be wrong about a piece of raccoon turd in your estimation? If so: enjoy. Doubtful? Almost every single rating metric for movies list MOS about in the same bracket as Thor: The Dark World - a movie which is considered one of MCU's worst: IMDB: Thor TDW-7/10 MOS-7.1/10 RT: Thor TDW - 66% fresh, 77% audience score, 6.2/10 rating MOS - 55% fresh, 75% audience score, 6.2/10 rating Metacritic: Thor TDW - 54% MOS - 55% Box office: Thor TDW - $644 million / $170 million budget MOS - $668 million / $225 million budget And like I said, that's already DCEU's best film outside of WW vs. MCU's arguably worst film. |
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Post by scabab on Jan 20, 2018 0:21:33 GMT
Once again you're going completely off track.
This thread has zero to do with DC. Nothing in the OP even mentioned anything at all to do with DC.
How do you all keep diverting discussons to the same thing every time?
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 20, 2018 0:24:39 GMT
Once again you're going completely off track. This thread has zero to do with DC. Nothing in the OP even mentioned anything at all to do with DC. How do you all keep diverting discussons to the same thing every time? I'm simply replying to a bunch of posts. The MCU keeps getting dragged into discussions in the DCEU board as well too. |
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