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What TV show did you last watch a season of on DVD/Blu-ray? Aug 30, 2020 14:20:15 GMT theravenking and HirundoRustica like this

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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Aug 30, 2020 14:20:15 GMT

Just finished Season 1 of His Dark Materials on Blu-ray.

I've never read the books that this is adapted from, though I did see the movie version, The Golden Compass (2007), at the theatre. I haven't watched that version in quite a long time, so I only have very vague memories of it, but I remember being rather disappointed (so I can only imagine how disappointed book readers must've been, as I wasn't even comparing the movie to the book). It seemed to have some good elements/interesting ideas, but it felt like it was lacking something. Consequently, I held out hope that this TV series version, with 8 episodes for its first season, would manage to succeed where the movie had (mostly) failed.

Episode 1 - 'Lyra's Jordan'

SPOILER: Click to show

Once text appears on the screen telling us the necessary info about daemons and how they're a person's soul externalised/personified (plus something about a flood), we meet Lyra's 'uncle', Lord Asriel (James McAvoy, easily setting himself apart from the Daniel Craig version, since they're not really anything alike). When Asriel's snow leopard, Stelmaria (voiced by Helen McCrory, who I've seen in numerous things - Penny Dreadful, the Harry Potter films as Draco's mother, an episode of Doctor Who as an alien fish), was paddling out into the water alongside Asriel, I wondered what she did while he took infant Lyra to the Master? Was she just treading water the whole time he was chatting? And it slightly amused me when Asriel was telling the Master to keep Lyra safe despite his house being flooded and both of them being up to their elbows in water.

After having only recently (or at least it felt like recently) seen Dafne Keen as a kid in Logan (2017), it was slightly surprising to see her already having grown up quite a bit. I thought she was okay in Logan without much dialogue for most of it, but some lines from her here felt a bit 'forced', I found. Her version of Lyra Belacqua was apparently the sort who liked to run/jump around everywhere quite a lot (I felt a bit sorry for the old guy librarian scholar who seemed to care about Lyra despite her skipping out on him during his class). I thought it’d be hard to keep track of Lyra’s daemon, Pan (short for Pantalaimon), with him constantly changing forms, but it wasn't too bad. I really liked Pan's ermine form.

While I thought Dafne Keen was okay, but not 'great' in this first episode, I found that the young actor playing Roger felt a lot more 'natural'/'comfortable' in his role. He was really quite good. It surprised me how much of a dick Asriel was to Lyra (I didn't remember him being so much of one in the movie), getting rough with her/threatening to break her arm, forcing her to hide in a tight space and saying he wouldn’t save her if she made a noise. On top of all that, he wanted her to spy for him - though I'm not sure why she would considering he left her in that cramped space for so long that she eventually fell asleep in there, then he dragged her unconscious form out by her foot before carrying her off. She wanted him to take her to the North with him and what'd he do? Basically shoved her off the airship he was on. Good on Roger for sticking up for her, telling Asriel she was 'special' (though it was slightly amusing that Asriel was like, "Everyone is special!", not seeming to want to give Lyra any special treatment or act like she was more important than anyone else as a lot of people would with their family members).

It was also kind of funny how Mrs Coulter seemed actually decent in comparison to Asriel in this episode, as was hearing that she 'negotiates with bears'. She was nice to Lyra (though Lyra wasn't so nice to poor Roger when he talked to her as they were eating and she ignored him because she was more interested in chatting with Mrs Coulter), and after convincing Lyra to go traveling with her, she said Roger could come with them. When Lyra hugged her, I thought Ruth Wilson did a good job with her reaction. It really said a lot without needing any words at all.

One of the main reasons I wanted to check this show out was because I'd become a fan of Ruth Wilson after watching her in the TV series The Affair. I went seeking out other things she'd appeared in and once she left that show I was pretty bummed, but was delighted to hear she'd joined this show. I know some people had problems with how she looked, but such things shouldn't really matter if you can do the role justice, and she most certainly was doing that. The look she gave when being hugged immediately made me suspect she was Lyra's mother (I honestly couldn't remember from the movie whether she was or not).

Unfortunately, Roger had gone missing (oh, sure, NOW you care about him, Lyra!), so Mrs Coulter agreed to help find him. Lyra tried asking the compass (called an alethiometer, entrusted to her by the Master after he told her to keep it secret/safe), but it seemed to be rather useless since it wouldn't tell her the truth she wanted which was Roger's whereabouts. I was amused when watching an interview with Ruth Wilson where she mentioned having trouble with saying the word 'alethiometer' and how she had to say it several times in a single sentence (I think that may have been in the episode after this one or possibly the next). I had enough trouble spelling it (thanks, copy & paste!).

I noted that Lyra must pack light (ie. nothing) as she ran to join Mrs Coulter's airship. Her golden monkey (which apparently has the ominous-sounding name of Ozymandias, I found out, despite it never being uttered in the show. Heck, even in one of the 'Behind the Scenes' featurettes, Ruth Wilson didn't know her monkey had a name...but that's probably because it wasn't given a name in the books, only in the radio adaptation. I've been reading up on these facts) seemed to notice things Mrs Coulter didn't, and in this instance it spied that Lyra was hiding something in her pocket (the alethiometer).

The animators did a nice job of making the monkey match the personality of Mrs Coulter, where you could tell there was something more going on underneath its calm/cool/collected exterior. I'm well aware that Mrs Coulter isn't really as 'nice' as how she appears to be in this first episode, and the monkey seemed to be a reflection of that. It's also probably the creepiest monkey since that cymbal-clanging toy monkey in the 'Home' episode of Supernatural from Season 1.

While all the above^ mentioned stuff in the episode was pretty good (or at least interesting), there were a few 'minuses' such as so much focus being on the missing kid, Billy Costa, when they could’ve focused more on Roger who we'd actually gotten to know a bit. The Costa kid was basically a nonentity. Even his brother's hawk daemon had more personality (I found it odd that the Gyptians could afford to donate silver to make into a ring for Tony to wear now that his demon had 'settled', when it looked like they could've used it more wisely/spent it on necessities). Consequently, the search party stuff = blah (for me, anyway). Meanwhile, the Master and his scenes just seemed vague/mysterious, but not much else.

Other random thoughts I had during the episode were "Do daemons eat?", "Do all daemons talk?" and every time "Scholastic sanctuary" was mentioned (which was quite a bit), it immediately made me think "That book company?". It also took me reading comments online to realise that every person's daemon was the opposite sex to their human counterpart - ie. girls/women had male daemons and boys/men had female daemons. Despite some minor quibbles, I thought this episode was a pretty good start to the show.

Episode 2 - 'The Idea of North'

SPOILER: Click to show

I admired Mrs Coulter's patience/restraint, since she was still acting nice despite the fact that Lyra could be a bit annoying at times (though she seemed to barely contain her anger/impatience when Lyra kept going on about missing Roger). I found her petting her daemon (and its reaction) interesting when Lyra was talking openly about 'Dust' (didn't Asriel tell her not to talk about that? At least she managed to cover for who she'd heard about it from).

It was a somewhat creepy scene when Lyra went stickybeaking and discovered the monkey separated from Mrs Coulter, remarking how it wasn't natural, but then suddenly it was with her as she appeared at the end of the hall (I've discovered the importance of human/daemon proximity after reading some comments). I felt sorry for the monkey when Mrs Coulter smacked it later on. We saw further signs that she was only just barely containing her anger when she told Lyra in no uncertain terms that she was to stay in her room while guests were over. Naturally, Lyra didn't do as she was told. It took me a while, but I think it was around this point that I worked out Pan would be in his cute white form when Lyra was being more obedient/not getting into trouble, and then he'd change into his brown form (still cute, though) when she was up to mischief - at least that was the 'pattern' that I saw, anyway.

Unfortunately, Lyra's attempt to hide the fact that she was keeping the alethiometer on her person at all times had the opposite effect, as Mrs Coulter remarked on how ridiculous it looked for her to wear a shoulder bag at home and then sicced her apparently very vicious monkey onto poor Pantalaimon, who changed forms to fight it (not that it did him much good). I noticed that the monkey hurting Pan also hurt Lyra (as was to be expected), but nothing happened to Mrs Coulter when Pan fought back.

At last Mrs Coulter revealed her true colours, and she was just as vicious as her monkey, though the way she just watched on as Pan and Lyra were hurt showed that she had that whole cold, steely glare thing working for her (at one point she was even examining her nails, just to show how nonchalant she was about the whole thing). Her remarks about Asriel, revealing bitterness and what seemed like a lot of pent-up aggression being released in regards to him, pretty much made it clear to me that not only was Asriel the father of Lyra (which Mrs Coulter revealed in this scene), but also that Mrs Coulter and he were exes (thus basically confirming she was Lyra's mother...not that she actually came out and said that, though). The kind of outburst from her when talking about him felt like the sort of animosity/disappointment you'd only get from an ex. Ruth Wilson did an excellent job in this scene. Any doubts some may have had about her being able to bring this character to life should've been history after watching her here. She could be truly menacing.

I liked the fact that we were getting to explore more layers to her character. There was a comment she'd made to Lyra earlier about not being able to escape the urge to jump (from heights), which suggested she possibly had some suicidal tendencies. I enjoyed her scene with Father MacPhail, where she said the line, "Oh, such a shame. There always has to be a “but” attached to a compliment." (the way she emphasised the word 'but', practically spitting it out, showed just how much seething anger she had inside).

I especially enjoyed her reaction to burning the kids' letters (after promising them she'd pass them along to those who were missing them). She tossed the letters in the fire, was about to walk on, then paused a moment and there was this look she gave which I thought was great. I thought Ruth Wilson was doing an awesome job of showing just how nasty her character could be. The looks she gives are worth a thousand words.

Lyra's parkour skills from the first episode seemed to be paying off, as she managed to escape with Pan from Mrs Coulter. If only she'd put as much effort into honing her evading skills, since she wasn't free for very long before being taken (presumably by Gobblers).

Minuses of the episode were, again, the Gyptians and the whole search party stuff (I never got to know Billy Costa. If it had been Roger, who we actually got to know in the first episode, then maybe all this screentime devoted to him being missing/the search party for him might've felt earned). The guy crossing over to our world/the 'normal' world, Carlo Boreal (whose name I had to look up), meeting with another guy who apparently knew about daemons didn't really interest me that much either. I didn't like seeing smart phones, etc - felt too modern. I thought this was going to be set purely in a 'fantasy' realm and didn't realise there would be trips to our boring world. Ugh. I guess Boreal's remark about not everyone liking to show off their daemons was the show's attempt to explain why we didn't really see mobs of them in the other world. Obviously the real reason for it was budget. I don't think it would've bothered me as much if I hadn't read so many complaints about it, but they kept saying how people should always have their daemons with them (and the show itself had made clear how important being in close proximity to each other was), plus I remembered seeing so many always around the place in the movie version.

It's somewhat ironic - when watching the movie, it almost felt like they were 'showing off' by having so many CGI daemons in almost every scene. It was back when a lot of movies seemed to overuse CGI. However, with this show it almost has the opposite problem. There aren't enough daemons visible in scenes. Considering how important a plot point it is that anyone minus a daemon is basically regarded as a freak of nature, it doesn't help that oftentimes you're left wondering where all the daemons are, since you can't see them all milling about in scenes with groups of people. I tried not to think about it, but I couldn't help it. Surely not everyone's daemon was some tiny little thing that could be hidden or flying up in the air out of sight. I'm an animal person, so one of the appeals of this story was getting to see lots of animals...but, sadly, there weren't nearly as many as there should've been. Rather disappointing. Curse you, budgetary limitations! *shakes fist* Hopefully the show gets an increased budget in Season 2. I noticed in this episode that Georgina Campbell from Krypton guest-starred as a reporter with a butterfly daemon who questioned Lyra and then sadly got her butterfly daemon crushed by Boreal while they were in a car. How it must suck to have a tiny/delicate/vulnerable daemon. If she'd had a tiger daemon or something, the dude would've been screwed. At least this made clear that killing someone's daemon also killed the person (evidently the body can't live without the soul or vice versa).

Episode 3 - 'The Spies'

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Mrs Coulter seemed rather bored without Lyra around, drinking and walking on the ledge of her balcony (always a goods combo). Further evidence of her suicidal tendencies (on top of her apparent self-loathing, since she would hit her monkey/own soul). The monkey was clearly concerned (maybe not so much about her as the fact that if she died, he would die too), especially when she nearly fell over the edge at one point. While I could recall there being an insect thing in the movie, I remembered it looking something like a wasp or giant mosquito rather than what she had here, which I thought more resembled a sort of robo-scarab.

Most of the Gyptian stuff was still boring to me. Things only got interesting once Ma Costa finally revealed to Lyra that Mrs Coulter was her mother (biggest "Well, duh." moment in the show yet), though I'd figured it would happen later in the season and be more of a dramatic reveal. Proving to not be very wise, two of the Gyptian guys went off to break into Mrs Coulter’s, one of them got caught and I thought it was a nice/interesting touch showing how much Mrs Coulter acted like her monkey (and vice versa), as she pounded on the guy repeatedly with her fists in a sort of ape-like way while her monkey pummeled the poor bird daemon. The crouching position she was in as she sat on him was also kind of ape-like.

Adding to her ape-like behaviour was that yell she gave after the guy decided to commit suicide (I felt bad for his daemon, as I thought "Well, you might've be okay with offing yourself, dude, but what if your daemon would've liked to have continued living? Poor thing wasn't even given a choice."). After the daemon evaporated, it was interesting seeing the monkey reach out like it was fascinated by the floating dusty remains the bird had been reduced to.

The discussion on the boat between Lyra and Farder Coram about wishing daemons were one thing but them being another was mildly interesting (certainly more than world-crossing BOREal - such an apt name). We also learned that spy-flies weren't allowed, and one got away to report back to Mrs Coulter with Lyra's location at the end of the episode. Apart from the Mrs Coulter stuff, I found this a rather 'meh' episode.

Episode 4 - 'Armour’

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Finally, the bear episode!

Before the bear, though, we met Lee Scorseby and his rabbit daemon, Hester. They seemed like a fun duo with their banter (this is only the second thing I can recall seeing Lin-Manuel Miranda in, the other being Mary Poppins Returns. When it seemed like everyone was talking about this guy/mentioning his name, all I could think was, "Who?", but now I'm aware of him), though my main thought was that a rabbit didn't seem like such a wise form for Hester to 'settle' on considering how much time the two of them spent high up in the air. If the bunny fell, Lee would be so screwed.

I couldn't help but think that when Lee got into a bar fight, there should have been lots of daemons around. I also noticed that his daemon didn't seem to react to him getting knocked about (ever since seeing Mrs Coulter's monkey hurting Pan which also hurt Lyra, I'd assumed that all people with daemons would get hurt if their daemons were hurt and vice versa...but Hester seemed fine even though Lee wasn't doing quite so well and she just made snarky comments. I would've thought she'd be a bit more concerned about him). It was a good way to establish the Lyra and Lee dynamic in their scene together where they discussed playing cards, and the scene ended with Hester not letting Lee know Lyra was stealing his bacon/nicking off (I'm not sure whether it was intentional or she just wasn't a very observant daemon). Apparently one of the reasons for not having so many daemons around in scenes with lots of people is because the show uses puppets so the actors have something to interact with rather than just tennis balls on sticks, and obviously if there are a lot of daemon puppets, there would also be a lot of puppeteers required and they'd probably be bumping into each other (at least that's how I interpreted what I watched in the 'Behind The Scenes' featurettes on my Blu-rays and what I read in articles about the series). I will admit that the puppets do look pretty nifty.

We learned that the old guy, Coram, had a thing with a witch (Serafina Pekkala) when he was younger and he seemed concerned that she wouldn't be interested in him now (which is understandable). Lyra having the alethiometer out in plane view all the time seemed like she was blatantly ignoring what she'd been told in the first episode about keeping it hidden/secret. Eventually Coram told her to put it away, but by then I thought it was a bit late for that as they went to see the ~~armoured~~ bear, Iorek Byrnison. I remember in the movie it sounded like the characters pronounced his last name as 'BEARnison', which seemed a bit obvious, so it caught me somewhat by surprise to hear them pronounce it differently here (I may be misremembering the way they pronounced it in the movie, but I definitely recall thinking when watching it, "Really? He's a BEAR and his last name is BEARnison? What are the odds?"). It still stood out to me, when watching all these people walking around the village, that there should have been lots of daemons around too.

I'd already been spoiled for how Iorek looked in the show, having seen previews on TV/at the movies that included him well before the show was ever released here. However, they were just quick shots of him, whereas we got good long looks at him once he fully revealed himself in this episode. I must say, the animators did a superb job with animating him. He looked better/more convincing than the one from the 2007 movie (which shows just how far CGI has come since then). It's great that shows now have the budget to create animals that are photo-real and are up to the same standard as what you'd get from movies (or, in some cases, even better than movies), it's just a bit of a shame that they had to conserve budget to achieve Iorek's realistic look that took money away from having the amount of daemons that really should've been present in any given scene. I guess that in the end it was 'worth' it, though, because he really did look exceptionally good. I appreciated the detail of there being scars on his muzzle, and it was a surprise to see the show didn't shy away from showing the amount of blood from all the animals he'd killed/eaten pooling around on the ground.

Again I felt sorry for Mrs Coulter’s monkey (despite what he'd done to Pan and Lyra) as he tried reaching up to her hand and she swatted/shooed it away, then later when he seemed to try to talk to her and she shushed him as she was writing stuff.

The animators deserve kudos for creating such an expressive animal, as do the puppeteers for helping the animators out with the use of the puppets, and Ruth Wilson deserves credit for developing a believable (albeit rather abusive) relationship with her daemon onscreen. The way she acts with it, I truly believe there is a live animal with her in every scene she shares with it (apparently her monkey's puppeteer is named Brian. I learned that after having heard her mention him several times in interviews when discussing the puppets in the show). This series has done a wonderful job with all these daemons. Once again, the only 'downside' is that I wish we got to see more of them.

I'd remembered from the movie that a big deal had been made about a bear's armour and how important it was to them. Here we learned a bear's armour was as important to them as a daemon was to a person. Lyra seemed like more the type of character she should've been right from the start. In this episode she was outsmarting people and convincing bears to do what she needed them to do to serve her purposes. After she convinced Iorek to help her and in return she told him where his armour was, he ran off, causing havoc, threw a guy out the window of the place where his armour was being kept and then emerged in all his fully-armoured glory. It was a cool character moment for Iorek, but it go me wondering...how do bears put their armour on themselves and do up the buckles, etc?

Just as well the guys who shot at him only shot at his armour, I thought. He showed he meant business when he knocked a guy down, roared in his face and stuck his giant paw on the guy’s head. It really looked like he was about to stomp/crush the guy's head (played by the actor who portrayed Harry's a-hole cousin, Dudley, in the Harry Potter movies and was now almost unrecognisable after having dropped so much of his weight since appearing in those. For a while there I wasn't sure whether it was him or not) and Lyra had to stop him. So, now she had an armoured bear on her side, as well as an aëronaut (by the end of the episode, Lee had come to respect Lyra after brushing her off earlier), which meant she had transportation for where she needed to get to - not a bad day's work.

Meanwhile, Mrs Coulter went to go see her own armoured bear, Iofur Raknison, who had apparently caught Asriel and was holding him prisoner. I thought the scene was done well, as it had this eerie/creepy vibe to it since we mostly just heard Iofur and didn't really see him until his armoured head emerged. It seemed like he and Iorek were competing for who could out-Batman-voice the other. As deep/growly as Iorek's voice was, Iofur's voice seemed even deeper/growlier - I guess that was to make it crystal clear that he was a 'bad' bear, though I thought the animators did a good job of making him have this vulnerable look as he cast his eyes downward in contemplation of what Mrs Coulter was offering him, even his voice seemed slightly less menacing as he said "No bears have ever been brought into the Magisterium before." like he couldn't quite believe it that he was going to have the chance to be the first. I almost felt sorry for him. The only thing that bothered me about the scene was I could not work out what he was saying when he cut off Mrs Coulter mid-sentence at 1:47/1:48 in the video. I've listened to it umpteen times and still can't make it out (turning on subtitles doesn't help either since they don't include whatever it is he says).

I liked the snowy setting in this episode, though the Gyptian characters were still boring. I can't believe I read one review badmouthing the effects and plot in this episode, calling it the 'weakest' so far when I felt quite the opposite. I thought it was about the strongest episode yet. The bears were very well-animated and the voice actors chosen for the roles fit them perfectly. I already love Iorek Byrnison as a character!

Episode 5 - 'The Lost Boy'

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The episode starting with a seemingly random voice-over caught me off guard/was a bit jarring, I found. All I really remember was that it said something about Lyra's destiny being connected to some guy named Will who we’d never seen nor heard of before. Obviously the character was of importance, but it just felt like he came out of nowhere and we were all of a sudden supposed to care about this character we'd never met. Maybe a gradual easing into his character's story might've worked better? The worst part of the voice-over was when it said that if Lyra was told what she had to do, she would fail...what kind of crazy logic is that?! I really didn't care at all about Will's storyline this episode and every time we cut to it I just wanted to get back to what was going on in Lyra's world.

I noticed she was still pulling out the alethiometer for all to see. It told her there was a 'ghost' and she made it her mission to go after it. No one seemed to believe her about this 'ghost', Coram didn't want her to go, and she seemed to quickly forget about the mission to save Roger (but we couldn't forget about Billy-freakin'-Costa because Ma Costa wouldn't shut up about him. I get that she feared for her child, but there were lots of other kidnapped children and yet it seemed like her son was treated as the 'most important', and the way she'd constantly go on and on about him...ugh, it just got to the point where it became annoying every time she mentioned his name. It was like the new "WAAAALT!" or the new "Coraaaaaal!!!" - Lost and The Walking Dead references, respectively). After Lyra briefly chatted with Ma Costa, she separated from the Gyptians and I was glad, as it was just her, Pan and Iorek. I imagine it couldn't have been too comfortable a ride for her being on a bear's back without a saddle. I noticed he left his all-important armour behind. It somewhat amused me when Lyra apologised to Iorek for using him to keep warm as they both were eating.

I wondered where Pan was in that^ scene and I'm still curious if daemons eat anything or not. Nevertheless, it was a good scene between Lyra and Iorek as they chatted and he mentioned the reason for him being exiled/stripped of his armour was because he killed another bear (which was apparently a big no-no in the bear community). The discussion soon shifted to Asriel being guarded by bears and Lyra believing she'd be able to trick/outsmart them, but Iorek maintained that bears "cannot be tricked". They ended up finding a spooky place, Lyra told Iorek (who was supposed to guard her) to stay behind and she'd go it alone. I felt so sorry for poor arctic fox Pan, who was whimpering and his ears were flattening as he looked like he'd rather be anywhere else. I hated Lyra ignoring him telling her to go back. I know that Pan is meant to be the embodiment of her 'soul' and they're basically the same being or whatever, but I can't help thinking of them as two separate entities and for me it was like watching someone willingly/intentionally endangering their animal. The worst part was that he had no choice but to go along with her since they couldn't be separated. Poor Pan.

They finally found Billy-freakin'-Costa and, unsurprisingly, he was missing his daemon. Honestly, I couldn't even remember what it was. I'd later hear them mention 'Ratter', so I'm assuming his daemon was a rat (with a rather unimaginative name when compared to all the other daemon names we'd heard mentioned), though I couldn't recall ever having actually seen it...and now I was never going to. I felt sorry for Iorek having to carry two people on his back (Lyra and Billy). Ma Costa managed to even make mourning her son somewhat annoying (I could've done without the time-wasting lullaby she sang). I guess Billy wasn't quite dead yet, as he then died (maybe it was his mother's singing that did it?). More time-wasting singing ensued. The daemons looking sad was the most emotionally effective part of the whole thing, I found. Next thing, the camp was attacked. I was sad about the little squirrel daemon going *poof* as a guy got killed. Lyra was, of course, taken and she recognised the clothes laid out for her were what Billy had been wearing, thus telling her she was where he'd ended up. The making her strip part was a bit disturbing.

I was glad that we FINALLY got to see Serafina Pekkala (after she'd been talked about so much in the previous episode, but never actually appeared). As soon as I discovered that Ruta Gedmintas (who I knew from the TV series The Strain, as she played one of my favourite characters in that) had been cast in the role which Eva Green played in the movie, I was happy to hear she'd scored another TV gig so soon after The Strain had finished. I'd also wondered what her character would end up looking like. I have to say...I wasn't expecting her to have the look that she had in the show. I was curious which version of the Serafina character was more 'book-accurate' in regards to her appearance - the Ruta Gedmintas version or the Eva Green version. Turns out the answer was 'neither', as I looked it up and in the book she's supposed to have long blonde hair. The show certainly went in the opposite direction to that description. I wonder why both versions of the character we've seen have been brunettes? Do they have something against blondes? It seemed like even more of a bizarre choice given that Ruta Gedmintas has long blonde hair (last time I saw her, anyway), which meant she looked more 'book-accurate' outside of the role.

I liked that she looked 'other-worldly', though. It seemed fitting for a witch character. The veiny pattern on her arm and the green silks wrapped around her were a nice touch, I thought. After watching the extras on my Blu-rays, I did eventually get to one where Ruta Gedmintas explained how long flowing hair just wasn't practical for what they were doing with the character. I believe she's also supposed to have a broomstick (I didn't see one present at any point in the show) and a crown with flowers (but they decided to go with the much more 'badass' scar over one eye to indicate she was the queen of the Lake Enara clan of witches). I'm sure some had a problem with her appearance, but I quickly got used to it. I like that she just glided gracefully through the air and had no need for a broomstick. Might not be 'book-accurate'...but eh, if a broomstick is your mode of transport, I'd imagine you'd always have to carry it with you and there's always the chance it could be stolen, damaged or even destroyed by an enemy (unless there's some magic placed on broomsticks preventing that from happening?). I was disappointed that we just got the one scene with Serafina in this episode, but I thought Ruta did a good job of playing her. She was completely different to her character from The Strain, not only in appearance but also the way she acted, spoke and even the way she carried herself. There was a definite 'supernatural' vibe to her performance and I appreciated that she made her character feel completely different to everyone else we'd met in the show. Outside of the Serafina scene and the stuff with Lyra, Pan and Iorek, I wasn't that fussed on this episode, especially when compared to last episode. Having no Mrs Coulter/Ruth Wilson present didn't help either.

Episode 6 - 'The Daemon-Cages'

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In Bolvangar there still seemed to be a lack of daemons around even those that hadn’t yet been separated from them, I noticed. It was nice to see Lyra reuniting with Roger at long last, not that they could really let on to anyone that they knew each other. It was rather disturbing when they found a daemon that had been separated from its human counterpart bumping its heads against the interior of the box it was imprisoned in. The box for Billy Costa's daemon was empty, which sadly told us it had perished and informed Roger that Billy was gone also.

It seemed that Lyra managed to get the other kids listening to her pretty quickly and they didn't take much convincing to join this girl they'd only just met in her plan to escape. It was a good tense moment when Lyra was forced to hold herself up off the ground while underneath one of the beds as Mrs Coulter entered the room, and although her monkey did some exploring...it didn't manage to track down Lyra, which I thought was a bit odd. I thought Mrs Coulter's monkey was better at sniffing out stuff than that. It mildly amused me when she eventually left and Lyra slumped to the floor in relief (after all, holding herself up for so long was probably murder on her arms), only to have to pull herself up off the ground again when Mrs Coulter re-entered the room briefly to get in a last few words.

I found the blonde woman with glasses, who bossed around the guy (Dr. Rendal I learned his name was, after looking it up because the actor playing him seemed familiar and I wanted to know where I'd seen him before. Turns out he was in the first Season 11 episode of Doctor Who and also the movie Last Christmas), to be kinda creepy, and other daemonless nurse, Clara, even moreso. When they were dragging Lyra towards the machine ('the Silver Guillotine' it's apparently called) for the intercision procedure and the woman told Rendal to grab Lyra’s daemon as she started running away, I thought Pan should’ve been running right alongside her when she attempted to flee. I'm not sure how he was so slow off the mark when by all rights he should've been even quicker at running than Lyra was. I felt sorry for Pan being grabbed and then stuck in the machine. I must admit, though, I was expecting 'more' from the daemon-severing scene. Lyra was mostly calling out for her mother, saying to the people that they didn’t know who she was and how her mother wouldn’t want this, etc. Meanwhile, Pan was upset about the prospect of being separated from Lyra. I expected her to be more upset and calling out for Pan (I know a lot of people seem to have a problem with it, but I personally found the movie's version of the scene was a bit 'better' in this respect).

I'd been dreading this scene in the show, knowing it was coming, and thought I'd be devastated by watching Lyra almost severed from Pan...but I found it just didn't have the emotional 'oomph' I was imagining it would. I thought I'd be tearing up. A couple of things I thought the TV version improved upon from the movie in the scene were the fact that machine looked better, it was bigger and seemed more imposing/scary than the movie version. Also, Ruth Wilson did a good job with playing Mrs Coulter's realisation that it was in fact Lyra in the machine and her rushing to stop it. I thought her performance eclipsed Nicole Kidman's. However, on the whole I was rather disappointed by this scene which I'd thought would be one of the most emotional ones from the season.

I did enjoy Mrs Coulter's chat with Lyra after she'd been released from the machine, though. The way I understood her explanation for what she was doing was she believed that severing daemons was necessary because when children hit puberty, the daemons made them self-doubt/have more 'adult' thoughts/sin, so her solution was to give them a castration/lobotomy, which meant children would have ‘pure’ thoughts only and thereby they wouldn’t attract 'Dust'...or something? I wasn't quite clear on what she was saying. I may have misinterpreted. Ruth Wilson really sold that Mrs Coulter cared about Lyra and would protect her and any friends still alive (though screw everyone else, as far as she was concerned). I hadn't realised that this was going to be the scene where Lyra tricked her by saying the alethiometer was in a tin but in fact it had the spy-fly in it instead which flew out and distracted Mrs Coulter long enough for Lyra to escape. In the movie, because the spy-fly looked more like a wasp or giant mosquito, when it flew out I thought maybe it had stung Mrs Coulter. There was then a weird directorial choice where we didn't see Nicole Kidman's face after that moment for the rest of the movie. I wondered if maybe her character's face had been disfigured in some way by the spy-fly, but I think it ended up being a case of them not having Kidman available for the shot and that's why we only saw the back of her head from that point on in the movie. I was glad there was no facial injury here either. Apparently the spy-fly didn't physically hurt Mrs Coulter, it just surprised her/gave her a fright. Much more frightening, though, was Mrs Coulter's screaming after Lyra locked her in the room. That was truly scary. Then Lyra joined in (obviously Dafne Keen perfected her screaming skills in Logan, since her character did quite a bit of that). Like mother, like daughter. Or, in the case of later on when Mrs Coulter was crawling through the vents to escape, it was more 'like daughter, like mother'. The way she landed after coming out of the vent, in a crouched position, again had a 'monkey-like' quality/look about it.

Elsewhere, Lyra was making the daemonless nurse think about the daemon she was severed from, which was enough of a distraction so that she could then destroy the machine by pushing every button (it's amazing how that always seems to work in things, whereas I would think pushing every button would be more likely to undo anything you were trying to do). I enjoyed seeing the return of Iorek, as he said hello to Lyra after taking out some bad guys.

It was kind of funny that Roger just expected the zombie-like daemonless children to follow him when in fact they didn't at first. A motivational speech was required to get them moving, apparently. Although he was working for the bad guys and tried to use the 'I was just following orders' excuse, I still felt slightly sorry for Rendal when Ma Costa snapped his neck (that's probably because her character annoyed me more often than not and her killing him seemed to be all about getting revenge for her son and not really about any of the other children who'd also suffered as her son had). It was great to see Serafina turn up and kick arse, taking care of a bunch of bad guys with ease (it's handy having a witch on your side). I loved the sound dropping out as she did all that, as well as the effects of her wisping everywhere, and especially her last kill being her stabbing that creepy glasses-wearing blonde woman without even needing to look where she was. Unfortunately, there wasn't really much interaction between Serafina and Lyra, as she just looked up at the witch in awe before she disappeared as quickly as she'd appeared. Once again Ruth Wilson did a really good job portraying Mrs Coulter's emotions, as she was looking rather upset while watching Lyra reunite with her friends, before slipping away.

The 'battle' wasn't as big/epic as it was in the movie, I guess once again thanks to budgetary limitations. I wondered what was going to happen with the poor severed daemons they were gathering up. I felt so bad for those animals. Poor things. They apparently couldn't even talk anymore.

Lyra flying off with Roger, Lee and Iorek was where I remembered the movie had ended. The only one missing was Serafina...but then she turned up. It was a good scene between her and Lee.

Though it was kind of funny how after Serafina made it clear to him how important Lyra was and that he was to keep her safe...he promptly lost her not long after, as she fell (seemingly to her death - though we all knew there wasn't any danger of that actually happening. Where was Pan? I didn't see him falling or yelling out or anything) thanks to flying creatures called cliff-ghasts attacking (no wonder it had been such a moodily-lit scene - they wanted to inject a bit of a 'horror' element to it). I thought it was a bit risky of Lee to be shooting all over the place considering he could've shot what was holding them all up in the air (I also worried when Iorek stuck his head out that he was going to get attacked too). All in all, this episode was certainly an improvement over last episode.

Episode 7 - 'The Fight to the Death'

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The episode began with this slow push-in on the back of Mrs Coulter as she surveyed the ruined intercision machine, then after seeming rather calm, she let out this primal scream (complete with spittle string between her teeth), and the reason why seeing this release of anger from her was so unsettling was because she didn't make a habit out of yelling/screaming (villains who do just wind up being not scary at all/just come off as jokes, I find). It was the sudden shift from quiet/composed to uncontrollable rage that made it work so well. Kudos to Ruth Wilson for going all-out with that scream. It was pretty freaky.

Following the scream, she went and talked to the creepy daemonless nurse, Clara...and then proceeded to strangle her, but didn't actually kill her. Instead, she apologised for her actions. Ruth Wilson seems to have mastered the art of being able to shift gears in an instant. It really is something to behold.

We weren't really given much explanation for how Lyra managed to survive falling at the end of last episode. She went to see the 'bad' bear, Iofur, who had lots of blood smeared over the bottom of his stairs (not very inviting). I guess another reason the show was trying to save on budget was because of this episode, as we were treated to quite a lot of bears. Lyra relied on her ability to lie convincingly, as she told Iofur that she was Iorek's daemon, but wanted to become his daemon instead, spinning some story that ended with her convincing him to make it that fighting Iorek was his idea instead of Iorek's. After she told Iofur to ask her something and she'd prove her 'daemoness' by being able to tell him the truth, he asked her what the first creature he killed was and then she told him she had to go off elsewhere before she could answer. This kind of made him look like a bit of a dope, as he really shouldn't have let her out of his sight (of course anyone could go somewhere else and find an answer. He should've insisted she give him an answer right then and there or else he'd end her). Naturally, she used the alethiometer (and took her sweet time about it too), then eventually came back and gave him the answer. It's a wonder bears are supposedly 'impossible' to trick if this is how easily it can be done.

Eventually, Iorek showed up, Lyra apologised for the part she played in arranging his fight to the death with Iofur, who then summoned them. Cue the 'fight to the death' from the episode's title...albeit without armour on (which seemed strange for two armoured bears). I don't really remember much about the movie's version of the fight, but I thought this one was pretty brutal. I mean, at least there were actual blood stains on their fur (I don't recall there being much, if any, in the movie). No, this version didn't have any jaws being ripped off (it might've been 'book-accurate' for the movie to include it, but it looked rather ridiculous when it happened, since it was completely blood-free and you almost couldn't tell what was being thrown at the screen anyway), but what made this version of the fight feel more 'visceral' to me was the fact that these bears looked so photo-real. It was like watching two actual polar bears fighting. And I hate seeing animals fight, so it packed more 'punch', I thought. Once Iofur finally worked out that Lyra had been lying to him, he threatened her, and that seemed to be what motivated Iorek and gave him the strength to get back on his feet (either that or he was just faking being seriously hurt/acting like he was hurt worse than he actually was). After seemingly being defeated, Iorek attacked and killed Iofur. I'm sure some were disappointed that we didn't actually get to see the kill in grisly detail, but I for one didn't have a problem with us being spared seeing Iofur's gruesome death (he might've been 'bad', but I really don't like seeing animals die, even the 'bad' ones). Sometimes 'less' is 'more'. It was effective enough seeing what we could see, although Lyra blocked some of it, and her covering her ears made it clear how bad it was to hear. Iofur's final death cry was pretty damn chilling, I thought.

When Lyra informed Iorek that he was hurt bad, all I could think was "Well, duh." (why do people always feel the need to inform others that they're hurt? I'm sure in most cases they're well aware that they've been seriously injured). After taking over as King of the bears, Iorek informed the rest not to kill any humans...and then he promptly nicked off with Lyra (great King - immediately abandons his kingdom after regaining it), giving her the new last name of 'Silvertongue' (since she lied so convincingly to Iofur, I guess) and she reunited with Roger (who also survived the fall...along with everyone else, apparently), Serafina turned up to give Lee back his gun he'd lost during the fall, let him know everyone else was alright (seriously, did Serafina catch everyone who fell and set them down gently on the ground or what??) and informed him that a war was coming (aren't they always?). And that was it for Serafina this episode. Very disappointing how underused she was this season. Only THREE episodes with her and she barely got a couple of scenes in each.

When Mrs Coulter found out that Iofur was dead, I imagined her thinking to herself, "Wow, did I bet on the wrong horse...or rather bear." (I'm actually sorry we got to know so little about Iofur and his dynamic with Mrs Coulter. I would've much rather spent more time on them than all the time that was spent on Will and the boring stuff going on in the 'normal' world/our world. The only things of note with his storyline were that he inadvertently killed someone by causing them to trip over his cat - poor cat

- and it looked like he may have had an alethiometer, though I couldn't be sure since we never actually saw what it was he had. Mostly, I was just bored and every time they cut to his story, it felt jarring and I just wished to be back where the action was in Lyra's world). I felt slightly sorry for Iorek having to carry both Lyra and Roger on his back along with his armour he was now wearing. He took them to Asriel who seemed less than pleased to see Lyra, going on about how he didn’t summon her and she had to leave...but then he saw she wasn't alone and he appeared freakily overjoyed that Roger was there. If I were Roger, I would've been hightailing it out of there immediately given Asriel's reaction. This did not bode well for him.

Episode 8 - 'Betrayal'

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I was amused when Roger was walking backwards to avoid looking at Lyra who was in the bathtub and his daemon was doing the same thing. It was a nice moment seeing Lyra and Roger's daemons, Pan and Salcilia, frolicking/playing together as their human counterparts spent time together (of course, this scene of them reconnecting was just so that it would hurt more later on with what happened to Roger/Salcilia). When Roger (rather unwisely, it must be said) went off with Asriel, I wondered WHY would he do such a boneheaded thing when he'd remarked to Lyra earlier that Asriel had been looking at him like a wolf? Did Roger, who always seemed the levelheaded one, suddenly start taking stupid pills?? This episode was really rough for me, since there were quite a few animal deaths. We saw bears being shot at and at least one of them die as they were fighting bad guys. Iorek then got Lyra to where she needed to go, but couldn't cross the bridge with her. I appreciated their hug goodbye, and once again I have to commend the animators for making Iorek so expressive. Just look at his eyes! There are actors who can't emote this much.

I was NOT expecting Asriel to actually go through with separating Roger from his daemon. I thought for sure Lyra would get there in time to stop him or he would have a change of heart. Hearing Salcilia calling out for Roger, asking what was going to happen to them and crying out, “Roger, I don’t want to leave you!" really got to me. See, THIS is what the intercision scene with Lyra and Pan should've been. It should've been an emotional gut-punch like this one was. Even just thinking about it again, I feel sad.

Watching Salcilia die was very upsetting (since I'm an animal person, animal deaths always upset me more than human deaths. Having said that, I didn't realise at the time Roger was actually dead as well. I thought he'd be all zombie-like as other kids severed from their daemons were, so his death didn't really become apparent until later on). It was an interesting choice having this 'manual' intercision machine, where Asriel had to do all the work in severing Roger from Salcilia (and also look Roger in the eyes as he begged him to stop). It wasn't an 'automatic', and was much more personal. It also illustrated just how cold a person Asriel was. I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive him for killing one of the actually likable human characters in the show (and certainly the most likable kid character). He's just as bad as Mrs Coulter now, if not worse (at least she isn't hiding the sort of person she is). And here I'd been thinking Asriel was at his most dickish in the first episode of the show. How wrong I was. Now I'll just be hoping every time I see his character that someone offs him (he can be a tasty treat for Iorek!). Naturally, Lyra managed to survive being blasted backwards by the energy wave or whatever it was once Roger was separated from Salcilia (Lyra's survived falls before, after all). And as if Asriel wasn't deplorable enough by this point, he then had a make-out sesh with Mrs Coulter and tried to convince her to go with him in his attempt to cross to another world (as that was all he cared about, apparently. Not killing Roger/Salcilia

). You know...I thought watching a giant rat and cockroach tonguing each other in the Season 1 final of Doom Patrol would be the weirdest animal-on-animal behaviour I'd witness this year...but watching Asriel and Mrs Coulter's daemons getting all snuggly-wuggly with each other was almost as freaky/bizarre.

Too much to hope for that Asriel perished as soon as he walked through the light, I'm guessing? When Lyra was hiding from Mrs Coulter, I thought she should run over to her and say, "You're not my worst parent anymore! If it becomes a choice between living with you or dad...I choose you!" (since Mrs Coulter was clearly the 'lesser of two evils' at this point). I was so bummed that they offed Roger (as well as poor Salcilia), since I'd enjoyed his friendship/dynamic with Lyra and he made her more tolerable. It became apparent he wasn't coming back to life once she went to him, Pan looked in the empty cage, said Salcilia was gone and then they both just left poor dead Roger alone in the snow.

When Will was stepping through the light on his side and Lyra was stepping through light on her side, I wondered if they might collide/run straight into each other. I was not expecting such a depressing end to the season. I'd read about how the 'proper' ending was left out of the movie and that they did it so they could have a 'happy ending'. While I get fans of the books being peeved about the change, I can only imagine what the reception would've been like had the The Golden Compass ended the same way this season final of the show did. I don't think anyone would've wanted to come back for any sequel (as it was, the movie obviously didn't do well enough to get one anyway). Talk about putting the 'dark' in His Dark Materials. Still, not reading any spoilers helped the season final have an actual impact, as I had no clue what was going to happen.

My overall verdict of the show:

The daemons looked great (well done, animators and puppeteers of the show, you should be very proud of your work), Iorek Byrnison looked AWESOME, and I enjoyed the magical world Lyra inhabited.

As far as the actors/actresses in the show were concerned, I thought by season's end Dafne Keen had improved to how she seemed in the first episode (though I'd still say the young actor who played Roger was the more 'natural' of the two). Ruth Wilson was a stand-out in this show and it was great to see her clearly relishing this wicked role. Other than being surprised that Lee Scorseby wasn't played by an older guy like in the movie, Lin-Manuel Miranda's casting in the role didn't really bother me one way or the other. He injected a bit of 'fun' to proceedings and I enjoyed his dynamics with Lyra, Iorek and Serafina. Speaking of Serafina Pekkala, Ruta Gedmintas might not be Eva Green, but her interpretation of the character was just as fascinating, I thought. My only quibble was that I wanted MORE of her. Rectify that next season, show! Iorek Byrnison was everything I could want in a talking, sometimes-armoured, polar bear. The voice actor they got for the role brought so much nuance just with his voice and the animators did a wonderful job matching his vocal performance by bringing this magnificent photo-real animal to life. And lastly, James McAvoy...well done playing the least likable character I've ever seen you play. Good job with that.

Downsides? I wasn't that interested in anyone not mentioned above^, all the 'normal' world stuff bored me to tears, it was such a shame they couldn't afford to have more daemons, and while the show did improve on a lot of things from the movie, I still found it a bit disappointing in some areas. I think they could've really made certain moments/scenes have more impact if they'd just altered them slightly. Still, the show got a lot of stuff 'right', I thought, and the 'positives' outweighed the 'negatives', so my overall enjoyment wasn't 'ruined'. Here's hoping Season 2 can be even better. I just watched two somewhat different trailers for the second season.

Last, but definitely not least, this show's opening credits and theme are a thing of beauty. The credits themselves are so lovely/interesting to watch, but the theme is VERY powerful to listen to. I wasn't sure about it when I heard it in the first episode, but as I watched each episode I looked forward to hearing it more and more, and then by the end of the season I found it very emotional to listen to. It sums the show up so beautifully and certainly left an impact on me. I just can't praise it enough. Definitely worth a listen!

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Most recently finished Season 3 of Lucifer on DVD.

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It has been well over a year since I watched Season 2 on DVD. I had bought Season 3 on DVD last year, but hadn't watched them until now (too many other shows to watch on DVD/Blu-ray). I was glad they gave us a recap of last season, as I'd forgotten some things. I remembered Lucifer's mum played by Tricia Helfer and him sending her to wherever, and I vaguely recalled him waking up semi-naked in the desert, but I think I'd forgotten about him having his wings back. I was going to review this season episode by episode, but instead I think I'll just review it character by character.

Obviously the most sensible place to start would be with the title character, the Devil himself...who this season lost his 'Devil Face' but regained his wings (not that he seemed too happy about it. Personally, I'd think that was a good trade). Lucifer could be an amusing guy quite a lot of the time, but sometimes his jokes would fall a bit flat, I found. Another thing that wore a bit thin was him finding something to obsess over each episode. Whatever personal issues he had going on, he managed to find parallels with whatever the case was in the episode, and then he would keep going on and on about it, finding 'links' between the two. It got rather tiresome after a while and made him somewhat unlikable at times. I think the 'lowest' point he reached was towards the end of the season when he was trying to relive the 'greatest hits' between him and Chloe, revisiting classic moments between the two of them in the show, trying to force things to being how they used to be. It was really awkward to watch and I felt some secondhand embarrassment there.

There was some humourous stuff that actually worked: Lucifer not knowing Chloe's badge number, but remembering her cup size. Using only emojis to inform Amenadiel what had happened in last season's final with their mum. Speaking through a puppet, then shooting through the puppet (unintentionally) - the only thing that could've made the whole puppet stuff even more funny was if we'd seen Puppet Angel from the 'Smile Time' episode of Angel in the background somewhere at one point.

There were quite a few other amusing lines/moments with him sprinkled throughout the season too, but what I really enjoyed was the Lucifer/Chloe interaction (or 'Deckerstar' as that ship has apparently been named). While to some it may seem 'boring', I actually appreciate it (and if you don't like the two of them, why watch the show? It's clearly the central relationship and isn't going anywhere anytime soon). I remember watching some other show where a character gave someone the bullet they'd been shot with and so Lucifer gifting Chloe with the bullet she'd shot him with (back in Season 1 I think it was?) reminded me of that. I liked seeing them have a nice scene together at the end of the episode. I want more of those.

For those concerned that Lucifer had 'softened' too much due to his feelings for Chloe, I think he showed he could kick just as much arse whilst having feelings as evidenced at the end of the season when he appeared in all his winged glory and took out a bunch of bad guys. The red of the blood against the white of his wings made for a really striking visual, I thought.

I also really liked the visuals of him protecting Chloe with his wings (especially the shot from underneath them with the beam of light shining though the gap above).

It appears the show was conserving its budget for ^that scene, which would explain why a previous dream sequence was so dodgy-looking.

Finally, by the end of the season Lucifer was able to admit his feelings to Chloe and reveal his true self to her (even if he wasn't aware that his Devil Face was showing at the time - which is how it seemed). Speaking of dodgy effects, I still don't like his Devil Face look. A better face would've been when it started reappearing and you could see the flames underneath his skin - that was a bit more 'restrained' and not as fake-looking as his full-on Devil Face always looks (to me, anyway). I can't help but wonder what Chloe's reaction to learning Lucifer was what he'd always claimed to be if it had been his wings she saw rather than his Devil Face. Tom Ellis continues to be equal parts charming and dangerous in the role of Lucifer Morningstar. There's nothing else I can really add to that. He's perfect in the role (which I guess is why he got the gig).

As for Chloe Decker - it was good to see the show allow Lauren German to display her comedic side this season. There were quite a few instances where she got to be funny, such as her getting drunk and imitating Lucifer.

I was amused at her imitating his accent (and that^ wasn't the only time she did it either. I think she did it in at least two separate episodes). The funniest, though, was her awkward laugh while undercover, which I thought was quite hilarious - as was Lucifer's description of what it sounded like.

It was also amusing seeing her attempt to be like Lucifer ('Lucinda' as he dubbed her).

I'm glad Chloe was given a chance to show she had a bit more of a 'lighter' side to her, as oftentimes it seemed she was stuck being the 'straight man' (or 'straight woman', rather) to Lucifer's more larger-than-life character. Actresses in these types of shows more often than not seem to get the thankless 'by-the-book' part while the actors get to have the more 'fun' roles. So good on Lauren German for getting to have some fun with her role this season.

That isn't to say she didn't have her fair share of 'serious' moments. There were the usual instances of her losing patience with Lucifer and being frustrated at him not telling her what he clearly wanted to (too bad he didn't use his wings that he wanted to be rid of as proof to Chloe what he'd been telling her all along was the truth. It seemed a bit contrived why he didn't just 'unfurl' in front of her). Some may have seen the way she acted towards him as being 'too harsh', but I could understand her frustrations.

Despite all that, we still saw instances where she clearly cared about Lucifer and also wanted to have him around (like in the episode when it was her birthday, for instance).

I also thought Chloe showed what a decent person she was by standing by Maze, believing her innocent of crimes that all evidence pointed to her committing and forgiving her for loads of crap she pulled when she didn't really deserve it (I'll get to that later). Unfortunately, Chloe also got saddled with being 1/3 of a dreaded 'love triangle' this season between herself, Lucifer and the new character of Pierce played by Tom Welling. That was a pretty thankless position to be stuck in, and while I can understand people being annoyed that she'd get involved with him, I could also see how she was driven towards him by Lucifer's continued habit of acting like he was about to tell her how he felt...only to back-pedal. There was an interesting dynamic between Chloe and Pierce at the start of the season where she was eager to show him what a good cop she was, but he was dismissive and even downright rude towards her. Things changed eventually, though, when he saved her from being shot and seemed to change his opinion of her. It was inevitable that some other guy would come into the picture to throw a spanner in the works of the budding 'Deckerstar' romance. I'm just glad it was over with by season's end. What I'm most hoping for now that Chloe knows everything Lucifer told her about himself is true is that we get to see a new dynamic between them. Things needed to change and grow in their relationship, so here's hoping Lauren German's given some good material to work with next season.

Regarding Pierce...I was at first surprised to see Tom Welling looking quite a bit older than the last time I saw him, which was the Smallville series final, but I guess since that was quite some time ago it makes sense he's looking a bit different these days. His character was more douchey than 'Detective Douche' (which Lucifer refers to Dan as) ever was in the beginning of this season. I didn't like him at all. He then seemed to shift gears after saving Chloe and we learned he was Cain (who killed his brother, Abel). He seemed to grow a bit more of a personality. However, he still wasn't that interesting. They tried to give him a bit more of a 'lighter' side in the episode where he and Lucifer posed as a couple, but that seemed to be really just a one episode sort of dynamic between them. Mostly it just felt like his character consisted of suicidal tendencies, dickishness and switching from "I don't like you." into "I love you!" mode in regards to Chloe. There wasn't a whole lot to his character that I found noteworthy. Hell, even the one episode with Abel managed to give that character more personality than Cain had throughout the season. The whole Cain storyline seemed too drawn-out. It felt like it should've only taken up half the season, not the whole season.

Much more successful was the character of Charlotte Richards played by Tricia Helfer. Last season her character wasn't actually her character, but rather Lucifer's mother who'd taken over her body. This season, however, we got to know the actual Charlotte Richards. I thought Tricia Helfer did a good job playing someone who was clearly different to what she played last season. Although we lost the 'Mother' character with all of her delightful quirks/attempts at adjusting to humanity, Charlotte still proved to be an interesting character. She got some funny moments, such as her mistaking her relationship with Lucifer as them having had a 'thing' (Lucifer's reaction to the snogging was amusing).

But she also had some more 'serious' stuff such as her fearing her return to Hell if she died again, trying to be 'good' and her learning the truth about Lucifer, etc. She took it pretty well, considering. There was also her interaction with Ella (some more amusing stuff there) and Dan (he was still hurt she was acting like she didn't know him, but by the end of the season they worked things out and reconnected...which, of course, was just in time for her to die thanks to being inadvertently shot by Cain when he was trying to kill Amenadiel). It's a shame we lost her character, but clearly the show wasn't sure where else they could take her character, plus they needed some sort of significant death at the end of the season and weren't willing to off anyone else (oh, how I wish it had been Maze that was offed instead). Here's hoping Tricia Helfer goes onto bigger and better things. She was a welcome addition to the show in Season 2 and I was glad to have her stick around for Season 3 at least.

A character who I wasn't so sure how I felt about was Ella. She was nice enough, quirky/funny at times...but sometimes it'd verge into being too much. I've seen more versions of this 'type' of character than I can count, and some succeed while others failed at making the character type endearing. Aimee Garcia (who I'm mostly familiar with from Dexter, but have seen in other things and also remember from a one episode guest star appearance in Season 3 of Supernatural) was good in the role...but occasionally they went a bit overboard with her quirkiness and it got slightly irritating. However, she did amuse me at times - one example being when she was making out that Chloe and Pierce had steamy chemistry and was miming it to her.

I also felt bad for her when Pierce yelled at her to stop talking and the next episode she was very quiet, used as few words as possible and was disheartened by having someone she regarded as a 'hero' being so mean to her. I could identify with her reaction to it, so that helped me grow to like her character more. I actually don't mind her now...but I haven't grown SO fond of her that I wished for a whole episode devoted to her character like what we got at the end of the season as one of the two 'bonus' episodes. Ella herself wasn't so bad, but her 'ghost' friend (who turned out to in fact be an angel - the least convincing portrayal of an angel I've ever seen) was very much annoying. I blame the actress. I remember her from the final season of House and I couldn't stand her in that. Her line deliveries sound like she's just reading them from the page and she had nowhere near the gravitas to pull off playing an otherworldly being (especially the Angel of Death). Extreme casting fail. Please never return. The one 'good' thing about the episode was getting to see Chloe having to dress up as a 'Furry' and getting into a fight with another...who, of course, turned out to be Maze.

I suppose now is as good a time as any to address my issues with the demon. I, for one, was glad when she was missing from the start of the season (apparently the actress was on maternity leave). Too bad she couldn't stay gone. I was never fussed on the character. "I'm sexy and kick lots of arse!" seemed to be her character description...and that was it. Kicking arse and liking to deal out punishment/death isn't really a well-rounded character, though. Occasionally they'd show her 'softening' slightly and being decent to Trixie and also her mother, Chloe (once in a blue moon), but on the whole she seemed to detest everyone except Lucifer, Amenadiel and Dr. Linda). This season I found she became completely intolerable. First, there was her petty jealousy over Dr. Linda and Amenadiel getting involved. It was bad enough that she basically threatened them to break up, but she wasn't even getting together with Amenadiel after the two of them broke up, so it seemed like it was a "I'm not interested in him...but I don't want you with him either." sort of thing which was really unfair to Dr. Linda and I have no idea why she put her 'friendship' with Maze above what she wanted (ie. a relationship with Amenadiel). And that's what really ticked me off this season regarding the Maze character - everyone's devotion to her despite her doing everything to show she wasn't deserving of it. The way she went after Chloe, who'd been nothing but decent to her, was what pushed her from being a character I disliked to one I downright hated.

As if her jealousy of Dr. Linda and Amenadiel wasn't enough, she then also got jealous of Chloe because Lucifer liked her. It really came across as Maze being territorial and practically wanting to mark both Amenadiel and Lucifer as hers, keeping anyone else from 'having' them. She became her most horrible when she was yelling to Dan, badmouthing Chloe and Trixie and Trixie overhead (understandably, she was upset). In a following episode we saw her trashing Chloe's place, stealing stuff, then when Chloe came home and was good enough to give Maze the benefit of the doubt, having told Trixie Maze had a 'good reason' for hurting her feelings...Maze was unapologetic. She resented Chloe for something Chloe had no control over (ie. Lucifer's feelings for her) and laid all the blame for her own problems at poor Chloe's feet. She accepted no responsibility at all for all the bad stuff she'd done.

The way she treated Chloe was terrible...yet Chloe stood up for her/stood by her, believed in her innocence and even had a speech towards the end of the episode saying how she was her friend...yet Maze just basically spat in her face and then went off to side with Cain who she KNEW was wanting to cause Chloe pain. Worse yet, Maze appeared to get off on the idea of causing Chloe pain, yet she'd never done anything to deserve that. Maze was also happy to set Lucifer up for Cain's murder, let's not forget (when she throws a tanty, she goes WAY overboard). By the end of the season it became clear the only human Maze felt anything for was Dr. Linda (though way to treat your friends, Maze, forcing her to break up with the one guy Dr. Linda had real feelings for...and for what? Because you're possessive of all non-humans?). It's a shame the show took the Maze character in this direction, as she seemed to be 'decent' towards Chloe in the first half before things changed. I really see nothing 'redeeming' about her character. She lashes out whenever she doesn't get her way and misplaces blame while accepting no responsibility/consequences herself. I'm annoyed that we're stuck with her. The show has a long ways to go before I find her remotely tolerable, and even then I doubt I'll ever 'like' her character. I'm aware this is an 'unpopular' opinion...but there you go.

In comparison to Maze, the characters of Dr. Linda, Dan and Amenadiel looked pretty good, actually. These three characters used to fall in my 'meh' pile, as I wasn't that fussed on any of them in the first two seasons, though I'd started to like Dr. Linda and Dan last season. Amenadiel was fine, but rather boring, I found. Still, 'boring' was better than 'horrible' (which is what Maze was). I like Dr. Linda's interaction with all the non-Maze characters, Dan became a character who I even felt sympathy for this season (especially after Charlotte died) and Amenadiel...well...oftentimes it seemed the show was unsure what to do with his character, but then we got the alternate reality 'bonus' episode at the very end of the season and I was reminded of how boring he was when all he did was tell Lucifer to go (back) to Hell and I'm grateful they've allowed him to interact with the other characters now. I'd really like to see him have more one-on-one interaction with Dan (and Chloe as well, if possible, since I'm not even sure what sort of 'dynamic' the two of them have).

When I started this season, I was quite enjoying it, but my enjoyment lessened as it went on (in large part thanks to Maze). I'm hoping Season 4 will be better...whenever I get around to watching it, that is.

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FINALLY finished Season 4 of Fear the Walking Dead on Blu-ray.

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I started watching this season quite a while ago, but about halfway through I was losing interest and then I stopped about four episodes from the end and decided to watch several other shows on DVD/Blu-ray. It was only recently that I got around to finishing the season. When I started watching this show, I already knew there were those who complained about it (but I wanted to judge it for myself), and I have to say that this fourth season was when I finally 'got' what they were talking about and have to agree...it's pretty boring/average now. I almost can't muster enough enthusiasm to review the season, but since I'd already jotted down some thoughts as I watched the episodes (I stopped towards the end of the season after I'd lost interest), I may as well make use of them. So, here goes...

Episode 1

The beginning of the season started in an unexpected way. You'd think we'd pick up from where the Season 3 cliffhanger ended, with Madison waking up on the shore after the dam flooded...but, no, instead we start with Garret Dillahunt (who I'll always remember as playing Cromartie aka Chrome Artie from Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles), dressed like a cowboy and talking to whoever he thinks is out there with him in the middle of nowhere. And, boy...can he talk. I must say I got sick of him yammering on for ages with boring crap where I had no clue what half of it was thanks to his accent. Things livened up a bit when he shot a zombie, revealing Morgan was behind it, then he asked, "What's your story?" - which is not only the episode's title, but also a theme running throughout the episode...as well as the entire season. One guarantee - you'll never want to hear that question asked ever again after watching this season.

I noticed the show got a spiffy new title card at the beginning, accompanied by the most minimal 'theme music' (if it can even be counted as theme music) ever. This is followed by a flashback to Morgan, who is apparently in self-imposed exile, hanging out at a junk yard and being visited (or is he just imagining it?) by people from The Walking Dead. While I've heard of the character named 'Jesus', I myself never watched that show long enough to see him introduced. He's the first one who appears, then Morgan's visited by Carol and lastly Rick. I only vaguely recalled Morgan from Season 1 of TWD and definitely never saw all the stuff he went through in later seasons of that show, but from what I could gather he'd obviously been through some bad stuff....which I get, but then everyone else has been through bad stuff too, so I'm not sure what makes his bad stuff 'special'.

This episode seemed to focus a lot on Morgan walking (not the most thrilling viewing experience ever, it must be said). After he left some water and whatever else for a guy in the back of a truck who didn’t want it, we were all caught up with what Morgan had been doing before his encounter with Garret Dillahunt's character, John Dorie, who seems friendly enough and like he only wants some company. Morgan comes off as a bit of a jerk, knocking back Dorie's kind offer (you'd think Morgan would've accepted after the dude from earlier on refused his own offer to help), but after a lot of arm-twisting, he sleeps for a while in Dorie's truck before leaving...and then promptly gets in trouble with some bad dudes (should've stuck with Dorie, Morgan!). Dorie saves him (thus proving Dorie the more decent of the two), but they're outnumbered. Fortunately for them, Maggie Grace from Lost and the Taken films (playing a character by the name of Althea here) shows up in her kick-arse SWAT van that has mounted machine guns at the ready with one tug of a lever.

After she saves the two, she wants their stories. Honestly, though, I would've rather she shared hers.

It was around this point, I think, that I noticed everything now appeared to have a grey filter over it (except when looking through Althea's video camera lens). I also noticed Maggie Grace was doing a deep husky voice thing that I didn't recall her having in other stuff I'd watched her in. I guess that, combined with her short brown hairdo, was to make her as different a character to Shannon from Lost as she could be. Dorie was happy to tell her his story, but Morgan being his (it would seem) typical grumpy self refused, even after Althea pointed out she'd just saved him. He keeps wanting to leave those who’re being friendly and trying to help/save him...I say just let him go.

Later, the bad dudes they encountered return and try to steal the awesome SWAT van, but when one of them mocks Althea, saying she's not so tough without her lever (connected to the machine guns), she proves the fool wrong. Then there's some zombie-killing, bad dudes getting killed by zombies, and Althea again saving Dorie/Morgan with her SWAT van's machine guns. Morgan manages to be pretty spry for a guy shot in the leg. He eventually tells Althea some stuff about where he came from, something about a kingdom and a pet tiger, but nothing particularly useful (though like Althea, I wanted to hear more about the tiger). At one point Althea says she calls zombies ‘the dead’, Dorie says he calls them ‘the passed’, and Morgan mentions that where he’s from they call them ‘walkers’. At this point it’d be funny if someone said "I just call ‘em zombies." and everyone looked at them weird.

Morgan says he loses people then loses himself, yet again walks off from help, then what follows is the most slow-paced zombie chase ever. It's almost comical how Morgan's hobbling along, slowly pursued by two zombies, and once again we see he would be dead without Dorie's help. Morgan kills a zombie, Althea again gives them a ride, Morgan says no more asking questions (or rather, if Althea asks...he just won’t give answers), they see a person on the road up ahead and decide to get out of the safety of the SWAT van to go investigate...because that seems smart

. They could've left one of them in there at least. The funniest part was Althea saying something like "Oh, great time to let me know you both don’t like killing." (especially after they'd just killed a bunch of zombies). I figured the person in the middle of the road would turn out to either be Madison or Alicia, since we hadn't seen them all episode. It ended up being Alicia...sporting some crazy hair (probably gave Maggie Grace flashbacks to Feral Claire from Lost).

Feral Alicia, Nick, Luciana and Strand surround the three and the episode ends with Althea asking the same thing she's going to be asking everyone she meets for the rest of the season. Oh, and Nick’s not dead (damn it).

Episode 2

We start with ‘Before’ appearing on the screen and everything’s not grey-filtered like in the last episode (plus, Nick’s hair is back to its oily ratty self). All the gang are together at a baseball stadium, alive and well and I’m confused because there are people we don’t know including some kid (oh joy...a kid character) who apparently hates salmon patties...and for some reason this is important enough for us to waste time on hearing the origin story of as she tells it to Madison (really engrossing stuff). We then get the new opening title card thing again, and I see what they're doing now - each episode's title card image has something in it relating to the episode (it's kind of like Once Upon A Time's title card in that way). And oh look, more engrossing stuff with turnip problems and weevils. Even the characters are bored with all of this, since Nick likes being bored apparently and Alicia suggests they stare at a wall later on.

Jenna Elfman pulls a gun on Madison (hi, Dharma...not that I ever watched Dharma & Greg), her name is Naomi, she's soon outnumbered and asked if she knows the kid’s family, then winds up on top of a tank and falls in goop/oil, followed by Madison who jumps in after her (for some reason. Seriously, she just had a gun aimed at you. Leave her be!), the others open the tank thus causing a zombie oil slide (probably less fun than it sounds) and finally do some zombie-killing. I found it weird that both Madison and Naomi didn't immediately take showers after, instead they wasted time talking and Madison informed Naomi about the hot water (so why don't you go use it instead of talking about it?). Nick goes outside in a truck, but experiences flashbacks to last season's dam explosion and crashes the truck while going really slowly, then needs others to save him/kill zombies for him - because he's become completely useless this season, it would seem.

They get back to the stadium and soon guys turn up outside, set up camper vans (and 'smug lawn chairs' as I saw someone comment elsewhere). They're referred to as the Vultures and the lead guy is named Mel (as in Sideshow Mel from The Simpsons?). Yeah, he looks really intimidating...

Their evil master plan is...to wait until Madison’s gang die because of bad turnips. If these are supposed to be the bad guys for the first part of the season, I have to say they're pretty weak (even moreso than the Proctors from the end of last season). They also have a guy riding around on a bicycle while playing music to herd zombies into their trucks. It would appear the kid (who I guess I should start calling by her name, which is Charlie) was a spy, feeding them info. Serves you right, Nick, for being so trusting! Yet Luciana still takes a book out to her later on (STOP doing nice things for people who don't deserve it, you bozos!). We then cut to ‘Now’ (hey, it's like Supernatural except they replaced 'Then' with 'Before') and everything’s back to a grey filter (BAH!). There was something about a flag belonging to the Vultures, which the gang in the SWAT van takes with them, but I didn't really follow what was so important about them because I was too bored.

Episode 3

Nick's chopping crops, burning turnips and we're apparently switching between different time periods as it keeps changing from grey filter to no grey filter. Meanwhile, Althea gets a few good kicks into Nick as they're fighting in the SWAT van, causing it to crash. She bargains for them helping her get the SWAT van out of a ditch and telling her their story if she tells them where she got the flag. Again with the story-telling and the flags - the former I'm sick of hearing about already and the latter I don't even care about. Ugh. On the plus side, we were treated to seeing Morgan hitting Nick with his stick, which was funny. Unintentionally funny, though, was him warning Nick that he'd better not move more than five feet from the SWAT van...despite the fact he couldn’t chase Nick if he ran, since he's got a limp and all. Nick sees a car go by (the Vulturesmobile) and wants to go after it, but Morgan won't let him, so then Nick attracts zombies with the SWAT van's horn that keeps blaring continually (and is very annoying. I had to turn the volume down) and Morgan leaves his beloved stick behind when he has to run from zombies. Nick nearly died, but Morgan saved him (damn it). You 'don't kill', Morgan? I'm sure all those zombies you killed would beg to differ.

Thankfully, Alicia's around to take charge, telling others what they need to do. They attract zombies and Althea shoots some of them. Meanwhile, in flashback (?), Nick and Madison go to the guy from the Vultures who rode a bicycle around with music playing to attract zombies into the trucks last episode and they find Charlie there with him. I already hate him and his hipster hat. We learn that the guy taught Nick about feeding his family (turnips!). Althea really wants her stories from people and panics when she sees that the place she kept them in her SWAT van had its lock broken (Nick and Morgan crashed into it during their fight earlier), checking all the tapes are there. Strand and Althea make a deal that they tell her everything as she takes them to where she got the flag. Nick kills hipster hat guy (I knew as soon as the stag head fell to the floor that he’d fall onto it), Nick feels he isn't dying quickly enough and so gives him a helping hand, pushing him further onto the stag head.

The field of bluebonnets for this episode's title card makes sense now, since we flashback to somewhere Nick and Madison found together which had the flowers (it reminds me of the meadow from the beginning and ending of the movie Eclipse). In the 'present' (whatever that actually is), Nick's holding one of the flowers and I wasn’t expecting that gunshot...or that Nick would be killed so early in the season (I knew he would be eventually killed off, just not when or how) or that the one to kill him would be Charlie. I should be pleased he was finally offed...but by that brat? Ehh, I couldn't quite enjoy it as much as I would've liked to. This is what you get for helping her out/caring about her, Nick! Lesson learned. I noticed Strand hugged Luciana in an effort to comfort her, but not Alicia (you know, the actual sister of the guy who just died). WTH? Maybe he was worried she'd stab him out of anger. So, Nick dies (finally) and we cut to him lying down in the field amid the bluebonnets. I must say, this show seems to have a habit of killing off its 'main' characters in the most unexpected (yet underwhelming) of ways. It was mildly annoying that we never got to see Madison’s reaction to the death of her 'favourite'.

Alicia: “HA! I win!"

Smell ya later, Mr. Unhygienic-Oily-Ratty-Hair who loved to bathe only in blood.

Episode 4

The gang are filmed by Althea as they mourn Lifeless Nick (all that's missing is her asking them, "How do you feeeeeeel?"

), Alicia stabs him in the head (working out some of that pent-up resentment towards her brother who was always her mum's 'favourite', I'd wager), Strand covers his corpse with a jacket...and I forgot what Luciana did. Althea interviews them on the SWAT van as they transport Stinky Nick, but says they can hold off (so she at least respects the dead until they're buried), but obviously it would be a long trip filled with awkward silence, so they decide to hell with that and fill her in. It would appear Strand was hoarding stuff and just wanted himself and the guy he liked to get away and live, but then he winds up sharing it with everyone whilst not telling them the complete truth. Alicia and Naomi go to the waterslide park...which sounds like a fun time, but isn't so 'fun' (for them, anyway. It was quite entertaining to watch, though). They crawl up the slippery waterslide and at the top find a mounted machine gun, but get attacked by a zombie which causes Naomi to slide back down and then Alicia’s hanging off the gun, the piece of it she's hanging onto comes loose, she pulls it off and slides down too...though she manages to use the gun mount to kill zombies at the bottom. There's lots of green/moss on the slide. I've noticed this season that the gore seems to be 'toned down' a bit from what it was like previously. Lots of rather boring zombie kills. Just mainly head-stabs with a bit of blood spurting out and that's it. Where's the creativity?

Nick and Luciana decide where they’re going to go based on what random page in a book they flip to (because basically 'eeny, meeny, miny, moe'-ing your life choices is the best way to go), while Morgan’s yet again nicking off on poor old Dorie. We continually cut between present and past and I can't be bothered specifying which time period each thing that happens takes place in. It's confusing enough to watch let alone describe. In the SWAT van they're all alluding to making decisions that led to something bad. The title card for this episode turns out to be the field where they bury Soon-to-be-worm-food Nick under The Lion King tree. Turns out they just wanted guns to go after the Vultures. Alicia leaves Dirtnap Nick first, then Luciana goes, and lastly Morgan who leaves a blue flower on the grave. Sadly, we don't get any Zombie Nick covered in blood (he could've been as a zombie as he was in life!) since Alicia stabbed him in the head earlier. We learn that Naomi is not actually Naomi's name, but that it's Laura and she was the one who Dorie was searching for when he finds his gun in her bag. The others tell him she’s dead. He needs a moment.

Episode 5

When it became apparent that this was going to be a Dorie-focused episode, I was annoyed since we hadn’t even gotten an Alicia-focused episode yet after 3 and a bit seasons into the show! How many zombies does a girl have to kill to get an episode focused on her in this show? Although I like his character because he’s nice, it was still boring spending time on him trying to think of words with his Scrabble letters. Eventually he meets Naomi/Laura. She’s not very appreciative of his help and could’ve been nicer to him, I thought. She keeps wanting to nick off without saying goodbye and is even planning to steal his truck. WHY do all these decent characters keep helping ungrateful characters? Go help those who'd actually appreciate it, for crying out loud! He sets up a privacy curtain for her and even offers to sleep on the couch. He fills her in on his cowboy background (ie. he doesn’t want to use guns on zombies because he accidentally fatally shot someone in the leg when he was a cop), teaches her how to fish...while standing in water they know zombies have washed up in (doesn't seem too wise) and, surprisingly, the fish tastes good despite having come out of zombie-infested water.

At one point they're attacked by zombies while in the truck and Dorie nearly lets one get him because he refuses to use his guns, so instead he stabs it, thus sending blood everywhere including on Naomi/Laura (once again it proves to be fortunate in this show that having zombie blood all over you doesn't cause you to turn and somehow magically manages to stay out of people's mouths/eyes/nostrils even when they're splattered with it). Dorie gets angry about her poking around in his guns (I think she might've used one to kill zombies when he refused to use it). The ditch that Dorie had dug (alliteration!) outside his place proves not enough to stop zombies (gee, I never would've expected them to just keep piling into it until there was enough of them that they could make it across that very small gap). Climbing into the ditch doesn't seem like a wise idea either. Naomi's/Laura's nearly overrun until Dorie finally kills zombies with his guns. The moral of the story? Being all 'anti-gun' is never the way to go in the Zombiepocalypse. Miraculously both still alive after having only just narrowly escaped death, the next thing they do - naturally - is make out (and presumably more). She’s, of course, gone by morning, having left Dorie a message in the form of spelling out 'I love you too I’m sorry' with Scrabble letters (after she wasn't able to tell him with words). I was amused by Dorie's fish radio that was his wake up alarm at the beginning and near the end of the episode, but other than that...this show isn't exactly a barrel of laughs (not that I need humour in everything that I watch, but once in a while wouldn't hurt). The episode finishes in the 'present' (I guess?), with Dorie and Morgan.

Episodes 6 & 7

This is where my enthusiasm for writing down my thoughts on each episode first began to wane, and so they're blended together for these two (and might not be quite in the right order).

Laura/Naomi keeps nicking off and trying to steal cars, she seemingly betrayed the gang, Alicia accidentally (?) shoots Dorie in a gunfight, there's a truck explosion with Mel, Charlie wants to see if he’s okay, Alicia says he’s gone/dead...but it appears he's only mostly dead, as he's now Extra Crispy Mel, so Alicia makes sure he's really dead by stabbing him with her sharpened gun mount (which she picked up at the waterslide park). It's a cool-looking weapon, but I miss her butterfly knife (as I'm sure you do, mszanadu

). Strand confesses to Madison he had a truck with supplies ready to go, as he planned to make like Naomi/Laura and skedaddle. We're once again cutting between periods of time, as we learn that Madison sent Mel away (back before he was extra crispy), but Alicia and Nick (who is still hanging around on the show for flashbacks - argh!) wanted to save him...for goodness knows what reason, considering what he'd done. Alicia regresses to her old not-so-smart self when she and Nick get stuck, as Vultures unload zombies from the trucks they'd herded them into previously, and can't get back inside the stadium. My first thought: why not just drive through them?

Episode 8

This one starts with Madison meeting Althea in whatever period of time that happened (I can't keep track of when anything takes place in this show anymore). Since things didn't pick up right where the last episode left off like I'd expected it too, I thought I'd missed an episode. WHAT does this season have against telling a story in linear form?

Madison trips a wire and consequently shoots Althea's food, which doesn't go over so well and gets her tied up for her trouble. She's forced to tell Althea her story (argh! ENOUGH with that! Don't give her what she wants, Madison! You're just encouraging her obsession!) and since Althea didn't specify how long ago to start from, Madison's story dates back to when Alicia and Nick were kids, as they nursed an injured bird back to health that had flown into a window (Madison says they never gave up on it, while she thought she’d find it dead - good ol' pessimistic Madison).

In a different time period, Alicia’s crew is battling Althea's crew, Althea says she’d punch Alicia in the cooch, Dorie’s still shot, they’re housing little psycho Charlie, Alicia is holding her at gunpoint, gets in a fight with Althea, finds her mum’s tape, after Althea had said her truck was 'built like a tank in a tank in a bank vault'...the door falls off, Morgan won’t let Alicia shoot Naomi/Laura and hugs her, she helps Dorie (who should've bled out by now?) and they all wind up around a fire together, telling the tale of how Madison died (which Alicia had mentioned earlier, blaming Naomi/Laura for). We learn Naomi's/Laura's really real name is actually June (seriously? This is like YoSaffBridge from Firefly with the multiple names).

We finally cut back to where the last episode left off, with Alicia and Nick caught in the middle of a zombie horde because they didn't drive over the zombies. Evidently Madison watched Jurassic Park enough that she applies the same rule to zombies as Alan Gant did to the T-Rex and distracts them with a flare, leading them away from her dopey kids and into the stadium, then proceeds to lock the zombies in with her as her back's against the wall and there's no visible means of escape, throws the flare on the ground, lighting up the stadium...and that's how she dies (I guess? It's not like we actually see her die).

Like with Now-Rotted Nick, I knew Madison's death would happen this season long before I ever watched it, but I didn't know when or by what means it would occur. At least you can't say the show isn't consistent when it comes to main character deaths - they've all been how I'm guessing no one imagined they'd be, both unexpected and disappointing/underwhelming. Others may not have liked you, Madison, and while you did make some (okay...a lot of) questionable decisions/choices, I didn't mind ya. At least now you can reunite with Travis and your 'favourtie' offspring.

Still...Alicia WINS!

Unless, of course, Daniel Salazar suddenly appears out of nowhere and kills you (which would be when I'd stop watching. I'm with this show for as long as Alicia Clark/Alycia Debnam-Carey is. Once she's gone, so am I).

At the end of the episode, everyone shares noodles...even with Killer Charlie.

Other random thoughts on this episode (this is the first time this season where I've had enough thoughts on an episode to warrant an 'Other random thoughts' section in my episode review):

They never showed what happened directly following the end of last season, only gave us vague references to it...and now I guess we'll never get to see what happened (presuming Madison won't be hanging around via flashbacks like Now-Fertilizer Nick is).

Strange that no one remembered the handy zombie blood-smearing trick to survive zombies that EVERYONE was using in the first three seasons.

Madison hugged her 'favourite' child, but not Alicia when reuniting with them earlier in the episode. Whatever. At least Alicia's still breathing, unlike others who shall remain lifeless.

No more non-linear storytelling flashbacks/flashforwards/flashwhatevers, please!

Episode 9

This one begins with a storm, lots of rain and wind (I thought it was Winter/snow at first) and, amusingly, zombies being picked up by the wind and flung through the air (though it looked more like someone with telekinetic powers was tossing them around - that'd be awesome, if Alicia developed telekinetic powers).

Yay! No confusing different time periods now! Boo! Permanent grey filter over everything (as it was only reserved for the 'present' segments previously, but now we're stuck with it). I'm also annoyed to see that Alycia Debnam-Carey, who should be the show's lead (now that the other three who were listed before her in the credits are all gone), is now listed second after the actor who plays Morgan. ADC has been there right from the very start of this show, so that alone should ensure her name comes first, but giving a character who only joined the show in Season 4 the top spot over her? That's really unfair. He hasn't been on this show long enough to earn that spot. It's like they weren't willing to make someone ADC's age the show's 'lead' and they think that only the more 'adult' actors/actresses should get to be the show's leads (first Kim Dickens/Madison, now Lennie James/Morgan). If I were ADC, I'd be PISSED. She waited three and a half seasons, is the last one standing of the original castmembers and now she's credited behind a crossover character.

I can kind of get that Morgan and his crew didn’t know Nick well, so they could forgive Charlie for offing him...but apparently Luciana forgives her too (because she brings that book back they gave her)? Your first instinct was right, Luciana - chase her away! And don’t leave your door open when you go out after her, that’s how that zombie got inside which nearly ate you while you listened to your record that somehow blocked out the sound of Strand fighting/killing said zombie. Meanwhile, Alicia is fixated on finding the mystery person who's been attaching 'help me' notes to zombies, but finds the guy is already a zombie. She then goes out into the storm, despite Morgan's efforts at trying to get her to seek shelter with him as he informs her that he's leaving and wants everyone to go with him.

Elsewhere, Strand’s a drunk now, June is all about her different personas and whether Dorie only loved the 'Laura' one (speaking of Dorie, he’s slowly recovering from his bullet wound and figures Strand owes him - to help go look for Charlie - since Alicia shot him...even though Charlie killed Strand’s friend, Nick). The episode ends with Althea and June stuck in the middle of the storm with zombies being flung against the windows of the SWAT van (I think). Flying zombies will never not be amusing.

Episode 10

FINALLY! The Alicia-centric episode I've been waiting three and a half seasons for. A shame it took the show THIS long to make it happen (she should've had episodes focused on her back when other characters were getting them). Getting an Alicia-centric episode wasn't the only thing that took a long time, as it also seemed to take her forever just to get in the door (I think it took over a minute for her to get in the door and then once inside, walk away from the door towards the screen). Still, she creates one hell of a silhouette (especially with that new weapon of hers).

Butterfly Knife:

They did something interesting/fitting with the title card segment for the episode by having the letters from 'Fear the Walking Dead' get blown away like the zombies were. Once finally inside the house, Alicia was her usual kick-arse self, swiftly dealing with a couple of zombies. I appreciated the slight bit of 'realism' that was added when she got her weapon stuck in the wall after having stabbed it through one zombie's head. It looked like she was without a weapon as another zombie appeared, but then she found whatever spiky object was handy and used that - looking like a BAMF as she did so.

As if to taunt her, while her previous issue was kicking a door open, the next problem she faced was getting a constantly swinging door to stay closed. In fact, I think there were a few. This episode could've been titled ‘Alicia vs the Doors’ (instead of its actual title, which was 'Close Your Eyes' - that immediately makes me think of Buffy/Angel and him being duped by someone telling him that twice in his unnaturally long life), though it might've led people to believe Alicia was going to be fighting Jim Morrison (or Val Kilmer).

She then discovers Charlie is in the house and I personally LOVED the fact that Alicia dropped a bunch of truth bombs on the little murderer - such as telling her how Nick died slowly/painfully, how she knew she’d done it after he tried to save her, calling her garbage, saying she wanted to kill her and that’s why she wanted her out of the house, etc. After the flying zombies last episode, I thought the show was done with comical visuals...but here we were treated to a zombie that had been impaled on a tree branch and was swaying back and forth towards the house, reaching out and making the usual zombie noises while hoping to snack on Charlie. Alicia tells her that she’s not going to forgive her and wasn't saving her from branch zombie because she cared, but because she wanted Charlie to live with what she'd done. I practically cheered and applauded Alicia in this scene, as long ago I grew tired of shows taking it too easy on kid characters. So many times they're the reason other characters get killed (usually adults), even if it's unintentional and not outright murder like what Charlie did to Nick, yet they're always told "It's not your fault." and other BS. Thankfully, Alicia didn't take it easy on her. I was relieved about that.

I wasn't sure what the heck was going on with Alicia apologising to whatever she dislodged from the fireplace...but after a bit of research it turned out that it was a callback to Madison's bird story she told Althea in her last episode on the show.

When Charlie tried to make small talk as they ate together, I thought "Good on you, Alicia!" as she made it perfectly clear to her she wasn't interested in any of that. After seeing Charlie removing pictures from photo frames of the people who lived in the house, Alicia told her it was pointless - Charlie's reason for doing it was later somewhat explained when the two of them then wound up stuck in the flooded basement and she says to Alicia she couldn't remember what her parents looked like before being zombies and how she didn't want to be one, so she wanted Alicia to shoot her. Alicia wants to shoot her too...but alas, is unable to go through with it. They’re miraculously freed by branch zombie falling on the locked outside door to the basement (somehow that breaks the lock), they get out, make graves for the dead family whose house they're now occupying, find a crashed bus on a bridge, Alicia kills a zombie with an arm dangling by a few threads, the two walk off and Alicia wants to shows Charlie the beach (which she's never seen). *sigh* They were this close to keeping Alicia angry at Charlie for what she'd done...but I guess they wanted to have the two of them start becoming close. Alycia Debnam-Carey did a great job with her first episode centred (mainly) around her. She played a whole range of emotions and despite my frustration with the development, managed to completely sell Alicia's turnaround on her attitude towards Charlie, making it believable that Alicia would choose to let her anger go because it was just too much to hang onto (at least that's the way I interpreted it). It was also probably my favourite episode of the season.

Episode 11

ANOTHER Morgan episode?? I guess after having the one and only Alicia-centric episode ever in this show previously, the showrunners felt the need to 'balance' things out by making it All About Morgan once again.

Flying debris taking out the zombie going towards Morgan was mildly amusing, but then we were subjected to MORE of Morgan walking after the storm was over and he sought shelter in the back of a truck. He wakes up to find that the truck he's been sleeping in has been driven somewhere, he hears a woman on the radio who tells him to take what he needs and leave what he doesn't, but he's his usual rude self. He then meets wheelchair guy with a gun who he has an argument with about talking to someone on the radio (they keep saying essentially the same thing back and forth 5 times or so and it gets old REALLY fast. One thing this show will never win any awards for is its dialogue, that's for sure). Wheelchair dude is with a woman named Sarah who drives the truck, running over a zombie, and wheelchair dude only awards her half a point because she nearly killed a bird (that would almost make me like him...but I still find him annoying. His name is Wendell).

Morgan’s going to go back to the gang over a bridge but changes his mind and lies that the bridge is out. He then comes to the rescue of a guy with a sack over his head escaping zombies (who's somehow survived/avoided being bitten despite his hands being tied behind his back). It turns out to be Aaron Stanford who played James Cole in the TV series version of 12 Monkeys. Here he's playing a far less interesting/likable character named Jim Brauer (what other character name does that sound like?) and I quickly tired of him rambling about beer (which he makes). Morgan unwittingly returns him to Sarah and Wendell, who turn out to be the truckers Jim escaped from. They not only want him back, but they also want Morgan to direct them to Virginia. Zombies suddenly turn up, Jim knocks Morgan down a hill, he somehow manages to get on top of a car with his hands tied behind his back, gets stuck there after telling the truckers where to go and they don’t help, then later on manages to get off the car and also avoid getting bitten. He uses a road sign as an axe, convinces the truckers to take him and leave boxes on their way to help people, and it's revealed that the woman he talked to on the radio earlier is bad news judging by the way she's writing something on a zombie’s face. This was a blah episode after the previous one.

Episode 13 (I didn't even bother writing down any notes for episode 12 apparently) was another boring one, as it was just Strand and Dorie trying to cross water while there was an alligator eating zombies and they set off a car alarm to attract the zombies into the water/provide a distraction for the alligator, but (predictably) the alarm eventually died and then they had to abandon their plans of crossing the water. Elsewhere, Luciana encountered a guy stuck in a car who was totally done for, but the last thing he wanted before dying was a beer...so she went in search of one, found one of the helpful boxes (which managed to keep the beer in it cold) and got it to him before he died. Yes, a very thrilling episode - crossing water and searching for beer.

Episode 14 wasn't much better. If they expected the backstory for crazy woman from the radio (whose name is Martha) to excuse what she was doing to people, then they failed miserably. She and her husband were in a car accident and no one would pull over to help her husband (who was quite clearly done for and no one could've saved judging by the fact he looked like he was almost cut in half). There's a quick montage that's supposed to illustrate time passing and in that space of time she goes from sane to INSANE. So, now she kills people who try to help others (because that makes sense...not. If anything, wouldn't you go after those who don't help people? Or is it just a case of "Well, they didn't help me...so screw everyone else in need of help!" as far as she's concerned?). It makes very little sense, even when she attempts to explain that she wants to make Morgan 'strong' (because of course he's the one she becomes fixated on). That's crazy person logic for ya.

Episode 15 featured Morgan and his crew getting stuck on the roof of a tall building after having 'escaped' to there when fleeing zombies in the previous episode. Althea's off taking care of them by herself or something, there's seemingly no way down and also Jim got bit last episode. He keeps blaming Morgan, who insists over and over that the others go, as he's staying behind (he never wants to hang with people for very long, it seems). They eventually do leave, but come back for him and he gets down thanks to a truck with an extending ladder. Jimbo throws himself down on a vehicle below, causing its alarm to go off and attract the zombies so the others can make their escape (after Morgan did the same thing with a dead zombie earlier on) – it’s the new trick everyone uses in the show (replacing the old zombie blood smear trick. Now that Nick's dead, it appears his trick died with him since no one ever uses it anymore). They name beer after Dead Jimbo and the whole thing was ridiculous.

Episode 16 is pretty ho-hum for a season final. They keep crazy woman alive after capturing her, she poisons them all with antifreeze in their drinking water, they're all dying, Morgan won't kill the crazy bitch and instead just handcuffs her to a car, then naturally he arrives in the nick of time to give everyone alcohol (even Charlie drinks. I wish we could've seen her drunk, it might've been amusing) that apparently counteracts the effects of antifreeze

. Martha got bit, becomes a zombie and FINALLY Morgan does what he should've done from the very start and offs the psycho. The only entertaining part in the episode, I found, was Althea writing an expletive-laden note, telling the others to get the c#^t (referring to Martha).

Well, in case it wasn't clear...I found this season to alternate between being boring and confusing with very little to enjoy about it. Alicia was, of course, awesome and really went through quite a lot of changes this season. She's probably developed the most since the start of the show. Dorie was a decent person (though got a bit boring when he'd start monologuing). I liked Althea (except for her constant ""What's your story?" catchphrase). I wasn't so fussed on Naomi/Laura/June (seriously, three names? What is she, a spy?). Strand and Luciana were okay. Charlie was annoying, but I'm actually not that sad she offed Nick (I was prepared to be super annoyed near when it looked like she was going to start wearing Dorie's cowboy hat à la Carl wearing Rick's hat on TWD, but thankfully it didn't last). I don't like the two truckers who we're now seemingly stuck with (I'm guessing the woman, Sarah, is supposed to be 'funny' at times, but she just annoys me). Lastly, I'd read long before watching this season that new showrunners took over from the ones who ran the show in the previous three seasons (this seems to be a pattern with these shows) and how they'd 'changed' what the show was. I didn't really understand until watching, when it became clear they were obsessed with the Morgan character (and Lennie James as an actor), making the show revolve around him (when Alicia was RIGHT THERE!) and unceremoniously getting rid of all the other original characters from the show. It's as if they wanted to sweep away everything they didn't like about the show and only kept the few things they did like (ie. Alicia, Strand and Luciana). Safe to say I won't be in a rush to watch Season 5 of Fear the Walking Morgan (or should that be Fear the Morgan Dead?).

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