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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jan 20, 2018 22:43:57 GMT
I know it's nowhere near as good as X1 or 2 or First Class or Logan, but I like it way better than Origins and The Wolverine and Apocalypse, and objectively, yeah DoFP is probably a better movie, but I find Last Stand to much more rewatchable and enjoyable. Their biggest mistake was trying to run two main X-Men runs into one story; Dark Phoenix and the Cure. Given the initial tone of the film series so far at the time, they should have stuck with the Cure storyline and saved Dark Phoenix for a future film. But Last Stand had balls to kill off Prof. X, which before it got undermined by DoFP, worked well emotionally. Didn't feel like it was for shock purposes. The moment where Logan opens the door and sees Xavier right before he explodes hits all the notes emotionally, same with Magneto's shock as well. My problem with the new films is that they're becoming the Jennifer Lawrence films. They took the mystique out of Mystique, which really irritates me, and I really hope Dark Phoenix doesn't become another Jennifer Lawrence film.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 20, 2018 23:41:39 GMT
Its good I dont know why it gets a bad rep. Its just too short at like 1hour 45 minutes so trying to jam in the Dark Phoneix story and the cure was not needed. If they focused on 1, it would have been a great end to the original trilogy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 3:53:20 GMT
Yeah, I'd say it was enjoyable but a rushed mess. Still better than Apocalypse.
I honestly prefer the old X Men trilogy to the new one. FC is probably my second favorite X Men movie behind X2, DOFPwas pretty good but too much Jennifer Lawrence, Apocalypse was more disappointing than The Last Stand and X Men was just a fun introduction to the franchise.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 21, 2018 19:50:57 GMT
Always liked it, never saw the online disdain, it may be the weakest of the first trilogy but it's not bad. I have never read the comic books though.
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Post by azzajones on Jan 21, 2018 22:01:39 GMT
I like how gray the film is, you're not sure who, if anyone, was right - hell, if there are any right decisions and they simply had to pick the lesser of two evils.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 21, 2018 23:34:20 GMT
I enjoyed it about the same as Apocalypse. A lot of characters get shortchanged but the action is entertaining.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 23, 2018 14:00:37 GMT
I see the problems in retrospect, but I enjoyed it while watching it. Same with Apocalypse.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jan 23, 2018 19:09:09 GMT
I know it's nowhere near as good as X1 or 2 or First Class or Logan, but I like it way better than Origins and The Wolverine and Apocalypse, and objectively, yeah DoFP is probably a better movie, but I find Last Stand to much more rewatchable and enjoyable. Their biggest mistake was trying to run two main X-Men runs into one story; Dark Phoenix and the Cure. Given the initial tone of the film series so far at the time, they should have stuck with the Cure storyline and saved Dark Phoenix for a future film. But Last Stand had balls to kill off Prof. X, which before it got undermined by DoFP, worked well emotionally. Didn't feel like it was for shock purposes. The moment where Logan opens the door and sees Xavier right before he explodes hits all the notes emotionally, same with Magneto's shock as well. My problem with the new films is that they're becoming the Jennifer Lawrence films. They took the mystique out of Mystique, which really irritates me, and I really hope Dark Phoenix doesn't become another Jennifer Lawrence film. Professor X didn’t die in X3. And JLaw screentime in the X-Men has been too small to be consider a main character and she only spend two weeks of filming on DP. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jan 23, 2018 19:14:56 GMT
Its good I dont know why it gets a bad rep. Its just too short at like 1hour 45 minutes so trying to jam in the Dark Phoneix story and the cure was not needed. If they focused on 1, it would have been a great end to the original trilogy. There are other problems like the fact that it’s padded out with pointless scene like Angel. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jan 25, 2018 9:28:14 GMT
It's okay. I like it, for the most part.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Jan 25, 2018 12:33:54 GMT
I don't remember disliking it when I saw the film, that's usually a good sign with me.
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Post by leesilm on Jan 26, 2018 3:01:45 GMT
I agree that one of the biggest issues was it is rushed, they should have let the movie be another 45mins longer, if they were going to tackle the Cure stuff AND Dark Phoenix/Jean. I think the only reasons I didn't love it (I do like it) when I originally saw it was I never cared for Jean in the movies (until APOCALYPSE, they did phenomenally better!). The ending is bleakly beautiful, with she and Logan. Honestly, despite having never shipped them in the movies or comics, it broke my heart to watch it cause you knew what that was doing to Logan. The only thing he could give her was the peace of a quick death. It seemed to echo some of the Samuri Wolverine stuff. And I didn't want Rogue to lose her powers, but having read a lot of the comics, I figured it wouldn't last... flash-forward to DAYS OF FUTURE PAST, and I find out that's true- her cure just temporarily suppressed her powers. It made sense, with how she was written in the movies. And the scene with she and Logan, ("I'm not your father, I'm your friend") was one of the best scenes in the original trilogy.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 26, 2018 12:27:31 GMT
I didn't but I can see why some might like it. I feel like it would have been a better movie if they didn't cram the cure storyline with the Dark Phoenix storyline.
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Post by James on Jan 30, 2018 19:27:16 GMT
I found it to be pretty good and underrated. However, it's the second weakest of the franchise for me (next to Origins). I just felt like they rushed some of the deaths and didn't have much meaning to them. Also, some characters could have been used so much more to their potential but were somewhat wasted because of the limited amount of spotlight they had in the movie (eg Juggernaut, Colossus, etc). But the film still had a great end battle and the acting is still sharp. It's also very entertaining and one of those movies you can just pop in and have fun with. I give it 7/10. Definitely not the bad film people make it out to be.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Feb 27, 2018 16:39:29 GMT
It's not horrible, just disappointing. There are aspects of the movie I like, but there's too much crammed into a short running time.
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Post by scabab on Mar 1, 2018 9:05:25 GMT
Yeah it ain't too bad, has some pretty good action scenes in there.
Though yes it was too short and it was a big mistake to have two major story lines in there. In hindsight with the upcoming movie they really should have nixed the Dark Phoenix story line.
It also had too many characters in general which meant a bunch weren't getting much screen time.
A two hour movie, focused solely on the Cure story line and removing say half a dozen characters and it would have been solid.
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