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Post by shadyvsesham on Jan 28, 2018 6:53:38 GMT
A 5-3 Super Bowl record is still pretty good, a lot better than your playoff prediction record this season of 2-8 so far. Jesus Christ, even the Cowboys' record this year was better than that, and that's saying something. 5-3 isn't bad if those 1, 2, or all 3 of those losses were to teams that were favorites. But when you go 5-3 in the Super Bowl and all 3 of those losses were to underdogs, that's awful and that definitely removes Belicheat and Shady Brady from any conversation of GOAT.
Joe Montana certainly wouldn't lose a Super Bowl to an underdog, let alone lose 3 Super Bowls to underdogs. Michael Jordan would never lose an NBA Finals to an underdog, let alone lose 3 NBA Finals to underdogs. Losing a 3rd Super Bowl to an underdog would completely destroy Belicheat's and Shady Brady's legacies.
How about someone who went 0-6 in playoff predictions? You got no credibility, give it a rest.
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Post by poelzig on Jan 28, 2018 6:54:33 GMT
Another reason to hate the Patriots? They're making me root for the fucking eagles. Another reason to hate the Eagles? There's NO WAY AT ALL THEY WILL BEAT the fucking patriots. PIN THIS NOW if you want but it's not possible for the eagles to win. Bet it and book it and go ahead and spend the money. By the 5 minute mark of the 3rd quarter we will all be playing poker or playing drinking games or wondering if that cute chick that came to the party with our friend meant to flash her panties and can we get her number without our friend or significant other seeing us. WHY? Because the Patriots will be too far ahead and Foles will long since have crashed back to Earth like the cheese whiz eating back up he is.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 28, 2018 7:11:40 GMT
5-3 isn't bad if those 1, 2, or all 3 of those losses were to teams that were favorites. But when you go 5-3 in the Super Bowl and all 3 of those losses were to underdogs, that's awful and that definitely removes Belicheat and Shady Brady from any conversation of GOAT.
Joe Montana certainly wouldn't lose a Super Bowl to an underdog, let alone lose 3 Super Bowls to underdogs. Michael Jordan would never lose an NBA Finals to an underdog, let alone lose 3 NBA Finals to underdogs. Losing a 3rd Super Bowl to an underdog would completely destroy Belicheat's and Shady Brady's legacies.
To this day, one of the dumbest arguments ever is that somehow going 4-0 in Super Bowls is better than going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever.
To this day, THE DUMBEST ARGUMENT EVER is that somehow going 5-3 in Super Bowls when you the favorite in 7 games is better than going 8-0 or 7-1.
When you're the favorite in 7 of 8 Super Bowls and you don't go 7-1 or 8-0, then YOU'RE A FAILURE. And that's exactly what Belicheat and Shady Brady will be if they lose a 3rd Super Bowl to an underdog.
And NO, going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever is definitely not any better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl. Saying that " going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever is better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl" is as dumb as saying "Loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring is better than a 1-2-3 inning for the offense".
The end result of loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring is no runs. So loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring isn't any better than a 1-2-3 inning. Likewise, the end result of going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in the Super Bowl is just 4 wins. So 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in the Super Bowl is definitely not any better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl.
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Post by Beardy McJewsenheimer ESQ on Jan 28, 2018 7:20:06 GMT
Not as dumb as claiming someone ever made that argument.
Don't worry dude, your Pats are gonna win this one. Rest easy
Out of curiosity, since you're doing this whole bit where you pretend to be a Cowboys fan, if winning 5 out of 8 Super Bowls is a failure because you were the favorite in 7 of them, what is it when you're the number 1 seed and lose your first playoff game at home? Something the Cowboys have done the last two times they were the #1 seed.
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 28, 2018 7:28:18 GMT
To this day, one of the dumbest arguments ever is that somehow going 4-0 in Super Bowls is better than going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever.
To this day, THE DUMBEST ARGUMENT EVER is that somehow going 5-3 in Super Bowls when you the favorite in 7 games is better than going 8-0 or 7-1.
When you're the favorite in 7 of 8 Super Bowls and you don't go 7-1 or 8-0, then YOU'RE A FAILURE. And that's exactly what Belicheat and Shady Brady will be if they lose a 3rd Super Bowl to an underdog.
And NO, going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever is definitely not any better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl. Saying that " going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever is better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl" is as dumb as saying "Loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring is better than a 1-2-3 inning for the offense".
The end result of loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring is no runs. So loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring isn't any better than a 1-2-3 inning. Likewise, the end result of going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in the Super Bowl is just 4 wins. So 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in the Super Bowl is definitely not any better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl. Joe Montana played, let's give him 14 seasons as a starter discounting those two years from 91-92 in which he played 0 and 1 games respectively. He made 4 Super Bowl appearances. That means he failed to make the Super Bowl in 10 other seasons. Unless the man was playing against the 72 Dolphins every year I'm pretty sure he lost to some underdogs before even reaching the Super Bowl more often than not. How is that better than losing IN the Super Bowl? Tom Brady has literally reached the Super Bowl in half of the seasons in his career as a starting QB. Half.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 28, 2018 8:23:30 GMT
To this day, THE DUMBEST ARGUMENT EVER is that somehow going 5-3 in Super Bowls when you the favorite in 7 games is better than going 8-0 or 7-1.
When you're the favorite in 7 of 8 Super Bowls and you don't go 7-1 or 8-0, then YOU'RE A FAILURE. And that's exactly what Belicheat and Shady Brady will be if they lose a 3rd Super Bowl to an underdog.
And NO, going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever is definitely not any better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl. Saying that " going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever is better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl" is as dumb as saying "Loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring is better than a 1-2-3 inning for the offense".
The end result of loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring is no runs. So loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring isn't any better than a 1-2-3 inning. Likewise, the end result of going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in the Super Bowl is just 4 wins. So 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in the Super Bowl is definitely not any better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl. Joe Montana played, let's give him 14 seasons as a starter discounting those two years from 91-92 in which he played 0 and 1 games respectively. He made 4 Super Bowl appearances. That means he failed to make the Super Bowl in 10 other seasons. Unless the man was playing against the 72 Dolphins every year I'm pretty sure he lost to some underdogs before even reaching the Super Bowl more often than not. How is that better than losing IN the Super Bowl? If you load the bases with no outs and you don't score, how is that a better inning than a 1-2-3 inning? The end result is 0 runs scored. Likewise, if you go 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in Super Bowls, how is that better than going 4-0 in Super Bowls? The end result is 4 wins. Tom Brady has literally reached the Super Bowl in half of the seasons in his career as a starting QB. Half.
I've heard many coaches and players say before the season "Our goal is to win the Super Bowl". Tell me, how many coaches and players have you ever heard say before the season "Our goal is to LOSE the Super Bowl"?
Why is it that Patriots fans are so dumb that they can't understand the simple fact that LOSING the Super Bowl isn't any better than all the other teams that didn't win the Super Bowl? The end result is that you're still a loser.
Moreover, if you lose the Super Bowl to an underdog, that makes you an even bigger failure because you underachieved and lost a game that you should've won. If Belicheat and Shady Brady lose this Super Bowl to an underdog Eagles team that was an underdog AT HOME in both their playoff games, that would be equivalent to missing a putt from 6 inches away. It's a HUGE failure!
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 28, 2018 8:36:57 GMT
Joe Montana played, let's give him 14 seasons as a starter discounting those two years from 91-92 in which he played 0 and 1 games respectively. He made 4 Super Bowl appearances. That means he failed to make the Super Bowl in 10 other seasons. Unless the man was playing against the 72 Dolphins every year I'm pretty sure he lost to some underdogs before even reaching the Super Bowl more often than not. How is that better than losing IN the Super Bowl? If you load the bases with no outs and you don't score, how is that a better inning than a 1-2-3 inning? The end result is 0 runs scored. Likewise, if you go 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in Super Bowls, how is that better than going 4-0 in Super Bowls? The end result is 4 wins. You know what's better than 4-0? 5-3. Or, as we may see in a week's time, 6-2. A goal that Tom Brady has achieved more times than Joe Montana, who was eliminated in games prior to the Super Bowl far more times than Brady. That's me, big time Patriots fan over here, all know this!
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 28, 2018 8:41:31 GMT
If you load the bases with no outs and you don't score, how is that a better inning than a 1-2-3 inning? The end result is 0 runs scored. Likewise, if you go 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in Super Bowls, how is that better than going 4-0 in Super Bowls? The end result is 4 wins. You know what's better than 4-0? 5-3. Or, as we may see in a week's time, 6-2. Too bad that at least 4 of those wins by the Shady One have asterisks for cheating, making them as worthless as Lance Armstrong's 7 Tour de France wins. I've heard many coaches and players say before the season "Our goal is to win the Super Bowl". A goal that Tom Brady has achieved more times than Joe Montana Only if you include the Shady One's 4 tainted wins by cheating.
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Post by poelzig on Jan 28, 2018 8:56:38 GMT
Sounds like the line has gone done from around 6.5 to 4.5 now. Wow - looks like some heavy action being put on the Birds and people thinking they can pull this off is gaining steam. Side note - it's still very early - over a week a away - but nobody really knows if Gronk will play. I actually hate to hear this. Never wish injury on another player and as a fan I'd always want to beat an opponent at full strength - I actually hope the guy plays. EVERY time someone says that, the player in question plays and the guy being fair minded has to watch his team lose. Sadly I know from experience.
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Post by Marv on Jan 28, 2018 11:29:24 GMT
I think rooting interest is kind of it’s own personal demon. Here in Pittsburgh it’s pretty split because whilst Steeler fans hate the Patriots As much as anyone, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia has its own interstate rivalry that is most prominent in hockey but exists in just about any facet of life. So people in my town are kind of split on who they’re rooting for. I guess I am a rare Philly fan who doesn't hate Pittsburgh teams. I have always dreamed of an Eagles/Steelers SB It’s mostly rooted in hockey. I’d have no issue with a Steagles Super Bowl. But because of the Pens Phlyers rivalry there’s a bit of bad blood between towns. All in good fun, as always...but still.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:57:06 GMT
I guess I am a rare Philly fan who doesn't hate Pittsburgh teams. I have always dreamed of an Eagles/Steelers SB It’s mostly rooted in hockey. I’d have no issue with a Steagles Super Bowl. But because of the Pens Phlyers rivalry there’s a bit of bad blood between towns. All in good fun, as always...but still. awesome reference. i really need to read up on this. wonder if there's any books/documentaries out there on this 1943 merger - Pittsburgh Steelers / Philadelphia Eagles - Steagles 
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Post by Marv on Jan 28, 2018 13:06:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 13:07:41 GMT
Another reason to hate the Patriots? They're making me root for the fucking eagles. Another reason to hate the Eagles? There's NO WAY AT ALL THEY WILL BEAT the fucking patriots. PIN THIS NOW if you want but it's not possible for the eagles to win. Bet it and book it and go ahead and spend the money. By the 5 minute mark of the 3rd quarter we will all be playing poker or playing drinking games or wondering if that cute chick that came to the party with our friend meant to flash her panties and can we get her number without our friend or significant other seeing us. WHY? Because the Patriots will be too far ahead and Foles will long since have crashed back to Earth like the cheese whiz eating back up he is. video was hysterical. he looked like somebody that did your taxes in the post game press conference last week with his glasses on. all the more reason to root for the guy - he's your average everyday joe. but next Sunday - we're going to see this killer: 
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 28, 2018 13:14:06 GMT
all the more reason to root for the guy - he's your average everyday joe. but next Sunday - we're going to see this killer: Next Sunday Nick is going to throw the ball a tad more Fultz than Foles.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 13:22:09 GMT
all the more reason to root for the guy - he's your average everyday joe. but next Sunday - we're going to see this killer: Next Sunday Nick is going to throw the ball a tad more Fultz than Foles. unnecessary roughness/low blow
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Post by damngumby on Jan 28, 2018 15:08:58 GMT
To this day, one of the dumbest arguments ever is that somehow going 4-0 in Super Bowls is better than going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever.
To this day, THE DUMBEST ARGUMENT EVER is that somehow going 5-3 in Super Bowls when you the favorite in 7 games is better than going 8-0 or 7-1.
When you're the favorite in 7 of 8 Super Bowls and you don't go 7-1 or 8-0, then YOU'RE A FAILURE. And that's exactly what Belicheat and Shady Brady will be if they lose a 3rd Super Bowl to an underdog.
And NO, going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever is definitely not any better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl. Saying that " going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever is better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl" is as dumb as saying "Loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring is better than a 1-2-3 inning for the offense".
The end result of loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring is no runs. So loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring isn't any better than a 1-2-3 inning. Likewise, the end result of going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in the Super Bowl is just 4 wins. So 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in the Super Bowl is definitely not any better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl. I can see why some folks think DC-Fan is really a Patriots fan just pretending to be a dumb as a stump hater. Of course, over at the superhero forums, he displays a similar degree of persistent idiocy that has led some folks to wonder if he’s really a MCU fan just pretending to be a brain-addled DC fan. That has to be the ultimate failure. When your arguments are so galactically stupid that folks can’t even believe they are legit.
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Post by flyerzzrul on Jan 28, 2018 17:59:32 GMT
I guess I am a rare Philly fan who doesn't hate Pittsburgh teams. I have always dreamed of an Eagles/Steelers SB It’s mostly rooted in hockey. I’d have no issue with a Steagles Super Bowl. But because of the Pens Phlyers rivalry there’s a bit of bad blood between towns. All in good fun, as always...but still. I like the Penguins, Mario was one of my favorite players. Do you know he got a standing ovation in Philly? I think Crosby is a punk but I do acknowledge he is an all-time great
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Post by poelzig on Jan 28, 2018 18:42:45 GMT
To this day, THE DUMBEST ARGUMENT EVER is that somehow going 5-3 in Super Bowls when you the favorite in 7 games is better than going 8-0 or 7-1.
When you're the favorite in 7 of 8 Super Bowls and you don't go 7-1 or 8-0, then YOU'RE A FAILURE. And that's exactly what Belicheat and Shady Brady will be if they lose a 3rd Super Bowl to an underdog.
And NO, going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever is definitely not any better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl. Saying that " going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever is better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl" is as dumb as saying "Loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring is better than a 1-2-3 inning for the offense".
The end result of loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring is no runs. So loading the bases with nobody out and not scoring isn't any better than a 1-2-3 inning. Likewise, the end result of going 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in the Super Bowl is just 4 wins. So 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 4-whatever in the Super Bowl is definitely not any better than going 4-0 in the Super Bowl. I can see why some folks think DC-Fan is really a Patriots fan just pretending to be a dumb as a stump hater. Of course, over at the superhero forums, he displays a similar degree of persistent idiocy that has led some folks to wonder if he’s really a MCU fan just pretending to be a brain-addled DC fan. That has to be the ultimate failure. When your arguments are so galactically stupid that folks can’t even believe they are legit. You're a bully. Obviously DC-Fan is accomplishing what he wants. You and the other mcu kids constatntly talk about him and whine about him and gang up on him. He's in yo head son.
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 28, 2018 21:02:13 GMT
"If you load the bases with no outs and you don't score, how is that a better inning than a 1-2-3 inning? The end result is 0 runs scored."
If your team gets shut out 1-0, and my team gets shut out 1-0, but your team got no his, and mine had 27 hits, I'm going to feel a lot better about my team than you will about yours.
My team put forth a great effort, and actuary had a chance to win. Your team had no chance, and was overmatched.
It's kinda like the difference between me and you when it comes to women. I have way more chances, and even though I don't always win the Superbowl (so to speak), I come a lot closer than a feckless pantywaste like you. You lose in the regular season. You lose in the wild card, or the divisional. You rarely make it to the championship game.
You are no Tom Brady.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 28, 2018 22:05:31 GMT
"If you load the bases with no outs and you don't score, how is that a better inning than a 1-2-3 inning? The end result is 0 runs scored." If your team gets shut out 1-0, and my team gets shut out 1-0, but your team got no his, and mine had 27 hits, I'm going to feel a lot better about my team than you will about yours. Ah, you're going to try to make yourself feel better about losing by claiming a "moral" victory. "Yeah, we got shut out but at least we got some hits so our batting averages didn't suffer." LOL!
There are no "moral" victories in sports. If you got shut out , it doesn't matter if you got zero hits or 27 hits. The end result is an L.
Likewise, if you lose the Superr Bowl, that isn't any better than not making it to the Super Bowl. The end result is you're a loser.
And if you lose 3 Super Bowls you're the favorite, then you're not only a loser but a choker and an underachiever. And that's what Belicheat and Shady Brady will known as if they lose to an underdog Eagles team that was an underdog AT HOME in both their playoff games.
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