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Post by bd74 on Jan 23, 2018 14:22:38 GMT
Woody Harrelson? Jordan Peele for directing? Meryl Streep for the umpteen millionth time? James Franco shut out? Not to mention the horrendous job done by the woman announcing the nominees.   It was however interesting to see the surprise nominations for Phantom Thread and Christopher Plummer, but really those are all just pointless nominations. None of them will win anything. I had/have no intention to watch the ceremony anyway, but was simply curious as to who and what would get in. This is truly the WORST year for movies and nominations that I can recall. The weakest year in recent memory. Awful choices to pick from overall. |
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Jan 23, 2018 15:32:36 GMT
I'm pissed that there's not a 10th best picture nominee, so I disagree.
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Post by theravenking on Jan 23, 2018 19:46:25 GMT
Jordan Peele gets nominated over Denis Villeneuve! WTF!
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Post by politicidal on Jan 24, 2018 0:43:22 GMT
Woody Harrelson?
Jordan Peele for directing?
Meryl Streep for the umpteen millionth time?
James Franco shut out?
That's all?
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Post by Nora on Jan 24, 2018 3:54:23 GMT
Jordan Peele gets nominated over Denis Villeneuve! WTF! and over Martin McDonagh. Thats a real snub. It just doesnt make any sense to me. But then again same with Greta Gerwigs charming little movie. What directing qualities were shown there that made her skills more special than Martin McDonagh?? |
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 27, 2018 2:41:22 GMT
Jordan Peele gets nominated over Denis Villeneuve! WTF! And Spielberg and McDonough. WTF! I guess they were the wrong color. I think what you mean is that they should have been nominated because they are the RIGHT color - the White color. |
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 27, 2018 4:56:20 GMT
I think what you mean is that they should have been nominated because they are the RIGHT color - the White color. Not at all. Nominated because of being deserving. I've been a Right Wing Watcher for 60 years, starting with my parents. I've heard it all before - many, many times. White people are deserving. Women and people of color, well, if they get nominated, get the job, get the promotion, etc. it is just "politics." They never deserve it. Get yourself a new story. |
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Post by hi224 on Jan 27, 2018 19:17:13 GMT
Whats wrong with Woody and Peele.
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Post by bd74 on Jan 27, 2018 21:15:12 GMT
Whats wrong with Woody and Peele. Neither one did anything nomination-worthy. 1)Woody played Woody, just like he does in nearly all the movies he's in. 2)Of all the movies that were released in 2017, are we to assume that Peele did one of the 5 best directing jobs?  ? |
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Post by hi224 on Jan 27, 2018 21:17:26 GMT
Whats wrong with Woody and Peele. Neither one did anything nomination-worthy. 1)Woody played Woody, just like he does in nearly all the movies he's in. 2)Of all the movies that were released in 2017, are we to assume that Peele did one of the 5 best directing jobs? ? Woody did a soulful job within his movie and had a few heartbreaking scenes as well. Peele had a few interesting shots and did a fine job with bringing unrelenting tension and characterization to a movie which could've been more derivative as well. Does Peele make my lineup? no but I don't mind his nomination. |
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Feb 3, 2018 18:15:45 GMT
The directing by Jordan Peele in Get Out was so nuanced, it looks like no one was doing anything, but the right notes were hit over and over. Peele extracted such precise timing from the actors.
If he hadn't been nominated, whatever. But he was, and it was deserving.
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Post by jesserebel on Feb 4, 2018 13:54:46 GMT
Jordan Peele gets nominated over Denis Villeneuve! WTF! and over Martin McDonagh. Thats a real snub. It just doesnt make any sense to me. But then again same with Greta Gerwigs charming little movie. What directing qualities were shown there that made her skills more special than Martin McDonagh?? I am baffled people are more upset with Peele being nominated than Gerwig. He did something amazing with Get Out... Lady Bird was not great cause of the directing. It was cause of the script and acting. |
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Post by Nora on Feb 4, 2018 18:24:17 GMT
and over Martin McDonagh. Thats a real snub. It just doesnt make any sense to me. But then again same with Greta Gerwigs charming little movie. What directing qualities were shown there that made her skills more special than Martin McDonagh?? I am baffled people are more upset with Peele being nominated than Gerwig. He did something amazing with Get Out... Lady Bird was not great cause of the directing. It was cause of the script and acting. I agree. When I think about it more I am more "upset" with Gerwig getting a director nom over McDonagh than with Peele. Peeles movie was at least highly original and managed to succeed in a very hard genre - horror-com. That is really unique. |
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Feb 6, 2018 23:32:08 GMT
I loved Woody in his role, I'm just worried about him splitting the vote with Sam Rockwell, who deserves to win, dammit!
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Post by mecano04 on Feb 7, 2018 17:52:17 GMT
Lady Bird for Best Picture and Director.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 8, 2018 1:49:33 GMT
Lady Bird for Best Picture and Director. It's funny because everyone I know who's seen it, whether like it or hate it, don't really see the hype. Although they always praised Laurie Metcalf. |
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Post by mecano04 on Feb 8, 2018 2:31:36 GMT
Lady Bird for Best Picture and Director. It's funny because everyone I know who's seen it, whether like it or hate it, don't really see the hype. Although they always praised Laurie Metcalf. Add me to that list. My only theory is that Gerwig (writer & director) knows the right people, so it was engineered. I also think the hype as something to do with what's happening Hollywood right now, with all the revelations. It's like more power to women and giving them more space, so being the only woman in directing she's "riding the wave" so to speak. I'll be the first to admit I didn't know her before nor had seen anything else in which she played but in many articles she is presented as a the best of her generation or a rare case. If she is that great, why wasn't she a forefront name or A-lister before that? Why didn't the magazines and newspaper talked about her rise to stardom before that? The other thing I can't wrap my head around is what type of movie is Lady Bird? In many places it's described as a coming of age, then she (Gerwig) described it as a drama and story about a daughter-mother relationship (at the Golden Globes, during a 30 secs speech, between awards presentation) and even here (from 1:30 on: www.youtube.com/watch?v=blk45ow9cr4 ) but the movie was listed in the comedy-musical category. I know and understand my sense of humor doesn't define what is a comedy or not but I sincerely fail to see how it is a comedy. If you feel like making a good deed, take a moment and explain it to me because I just don't see it. In short, it seems the movie is everything and nothing at the same time. It fits any category for awards but you never get a clear-cut definition of it. As for Laurie Metcalf, she was good but my choice and bet is still on Allison Janney in I, Tonya because she really stole every scene in which she was. Overall I couldn't rate Lady Bird more than a 4/10. That was my 2 cents. |
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Post by Nora on Feb 8, 2018 5:18:28 GMT
It's funny because everyone I know who's seen it, whether like it or hate it, don't really see the hype. Although they always praised Laurie Metcalf. Add me to that list. I'll be the first to admit I didn't know her before nor had seen anything else in which she played but in many articles she is presented as a the best of her generation or a rare case. If she is that great, why wasn't she a forefront name or A-lister before that? Why didn't the magazines and newspaper talked about her rise to stardom before that? Add me to that list too  I do know (of) her and never really liked her presence in movies TILL I saw "20th Century Women". She was really great in that and not her typical (nyc hipsterish aka super self involved and annoying) self. Which I really appreciated. She is a really good actress, and apparently a very good writer too. Although I dont relate to the women she writes or to the genre, I do see she is very talented. but to nominate her as best director, thats such a mystery how that happened. As much as it pains me to say it, it seems the gender played a role in it. Plus she is very well connected within the film making community. I thought about Lady Bird a lot and why it is so prominent this Oscar season. Such a small movie "about nothing". And I am still not sure. I wouldnt rate it as low as you had, but not much more than 6/10. Totally comparable to any other decent coming of age movie. |
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Post by bd74 on Feb 8, 2018 18:57:40 GMT
I haven't seen Lady Bird, so I can't say whether or not the nomination was deserved. I know virtually nothing about Gerwig -- I first heard of her a few years ago for a movie she starred in called Frances Ha. But, I do believe this is the first feature film she has directed.  I do think that the "current climate" in Hollywood sort of pressured the directors' branch into nominating a woman for Best Director (by the way, there were several women to choose from this year). And I guess she was the one who wound up with the most votes. |
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Feb 8, 2018 19:09:18 GMT
I haven't seen Lady Bird, but I liked Greta Gerwig so much in Mistress America that I sought out to watch Frances Ha, and she is good. I hear Laurie Metcalfe is very good, and I am a fan of Saoirse Ronan since her beautiful performance in Brooklyn.
But someone who has seen All the Money In the World, is the silver fox Christopher Plummer (who replaced Kevin Spacey in the movie and reshot all his scenes) a deserved nomination? Or does it seem it is an additional "take that" to Spacey? Plummer is great, but the circumstances have tainted the nomination.
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