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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 23, 2018 23:15:40 GMT
Best actor, Best picture, best director, best original screenplay. Not bad as the Oscars don't usually give too many nods to the horror genre.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Jan 23, 2018 23:53:25 GMT
That is quite the achievement. Who knew that even a horror comedy would get this much Oscar nods?
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 24, 2018 0:15:31 GMT
That is quite the achievement. Who knew that even a horror comedy would get this much Oscar nods? Now I'm wondering why 'Shaun of the Dead' and 'Tucker and Dale vs Evil' were shunned by the academy.  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 25, 2018 10:53:50 GMT
Best actor, Best picture, best director, best original screenplay. Not bad as the Oscars don't usually give too many nods to the horror genre. If it was pretty much the same film, but had no black actors, would it get the same praise? |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 25, 2018 11:39:38 GMT
Best actor, Best picture, best director, best original screenplay. Not bad as the Oscars don't usually give too many nods to the horror genre. If it was pretty much the same film, but had no black actors, would it get the same praise? Without the current political climate, it would not be recognized by the Oscars due to their bias against horror movies, sure. However, it would deserve to be, and thankfully it is. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 25, 2018 12:03:21 GMT
If it was pretty much the same film, but had no black actors, would it get the same praise? However, it would deserve to be, and thankfully it is. Well, they have nominated The Shape Of Water, which also has horror elements. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 25, 2018 14:45:26 GMT
Without the current political climate, it would not be recognized by the Oscars due to their bias against horror movies, sure. However, it would deserve to be, and thankfully it is. Well, they have nominated The Shape Of Water, which also has horror elements. I wouldn't associate The Shape of Water with horror, but either way, it's a pretty leftwing movie itself. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 25, 2018 14:52:54 GMT
I haven't seen The Shape of Water yet, but from my understanding it's not an out and out horror movie, and the love for it has to do, at least a little bit, with some career recognition for Guillermo Del Toro.
Get Out is a perfectly good horror film, but there's no denying that politics play into the academy attention for it. Not that that's unusual. So much of the academy awards is political. There are campaigns for and against films and individuals every year. But the love for Get Out is a little absurd. There's no question that it was a well loved movie, and a runaway hit at the box office, but I don't think I'd even say it was the best horror film of last year, let alone the last 20 some odd years since the academy has recognized horror at the awards. It's just simply not the kind of movie they'd typically recognize. The social climate, and the major and highly aggressive awards campaign have clearly worked in its favor.
I came away from the movie more interested in what Jordan Peele was going to do next than I was taken with the film itself.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 25, 2018 20:44:07 GMT
Well, they have nominated The Shape Of Water, which also has horror elements. I wouldn't associate The Shape of Water with horror, but either way, it's a pretty leftwing movie itself. I haven't seen the film yet, but it's roots appeared grounded in the horror genre. As for being a "left-wing" film, I would've thought most of the best ones are. Are you saying that "left-wing" wouldn't usually endorse horror, but "right-wing" would? |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 25, 2018 23:26:25 GMT
I wouldn't associate The Shape of Water with horror, but either way, it's a pretty leftwing movie itself. I haven't seen the film yet, but it's roots appeared grounded in the horror genre. As for being a "left-wing" film, I would've thought most of the best ones are. Are you saying that "left-wing" wouldn't usually endorse horror, but "right-wing" would? There's a smidge of 50s monster movie, but it's more rooted in fantasy and fairy tales. And no, I'm saying Shape of Water being nominated doesn't contradict my stance that Get Out was recognized in spite of being horror for its politics because Shape of Water too is political. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 26, 2018 2:02:13 GMT
Best actor, Best picture, best director, best original screenplay. Not bad as the Oscars don't usually give too many nods to the horror genre. If it was pretty much the same film, but had no black actors, would it get the same praise? I actually just made a post on the politics board. This is it: 6.5/10 but I like horror movies. Possible Academy diversity thing as horror movies don't get many nominations especially in the big categories at all but who knows. I'd prefer this nominated than 'Shakespeare in Love' or that type of film. No offense to fans of that film of course. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 26, 2018 3:43:53 GMT
I haven't seen the film yet, but it's roots appeared grounded in the horror genre. As for being a "left-wing" film, I would've thought most of the best ones are. Are you saying that "left-wing" wouldn't usually endorse horror, but "right-wing" would? There's a smidge of 50s monster movie, but it's more rooted in fantasy and fairy tales. And no, I'm saying Shape of Water being nominated doesn't contradict my stance that Get Out was recognized in spite of being horror for its politics because Shape of Water too is political. So they are both politically themed or charged as a subtext, would you call GET OUT left wing politics too? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 26, 2018 3:46:42 GMT
If it was pretty much the same film, but had no black actors, would it get the same praise? I actually just made a post on the politics board. This is it: 6.5/10 but I like horror movies. Possible Academy diversity thing as horror movies don't get many nominations especially in the big categories at all but who knows. I'd prefer this nominated than 'Shakespeare in Love' or that type of film. No offense to fans of that film of course.I would have preferred to have seen a stunningly presented and intelligent sci-fi film like BLADE RUNNER 2049 get nominated, or an adult edged and brooding superhero film like LOGAN. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 26, 2018 3:57:23 GMT
I actually just made a post on the politics board. This is it: 6.5/10 but I like horror movies. Possible Academy diversity thing as horror movies don't get many nominations especially in the big categories at all but who knows. I'd prefer this nominated than 'Shakespeare in Love' or that type of film. No offense to fans of that film of course.I would have preferred to have seen a stunningly presented and intelligent sci-fi film like BLADE RUNNER 2049 get nominated, or an adult edged and brooding superhero film like LOGAN. Awards are always going to be selective and everyone thinks this or that should be nominated but were shunned. It would be interesting to see what horror films in the last 20 years have received as much Academy attention as 'Get Out'. Then you do have to think of the #oscarssowhite movement and the boycott and ask is this really why all of a sudden 'Get Out' got these top category nominations. It probably did have something to do with it. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 26, 2018 4:09:00 GMT
I would have preferred to have seen a stunningly presented and intelligent sci-fi film like BLADE RUNNER 2049 get nominated, or an adult edged and brooding superhero film like LOGAN. Awards are always going to be selective and everyone thinks this or that should be nominated but were shunned. It would be interesting to see what horror films in the last 20 years have received as much Academy attention as 'Get Out'. Then you do have to think of the #oscarssowhite movement and the boycott and ask is this really why all of a sudden 'Get Out' got these top category nominations. It probably did have something to do with it. I can only recollect SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, but that was from 1991, 27yrs ago. It only seems like yesterday when I went to see it. Horror never tends to get much of a look in, and if it is deemed horror, it would be borderline horror, with many other elements meshed into it. Lambs wasn't outright, pure horror. GET OUT, may be a decent little thriller film, but I'm sure the black edge has had much to do with it. It's become about pandering to entitlements and self-importance now, rather than what is truly deserving. It is all subjective anyway and what is best for one man, could be poison to another. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 26, 2018 4:14:13 GMT
There's a smidge of 50s monster movie, but it's more rooted in fantasy and fairy tales. And no, I'm saying Shape of Water being nominated doesn't contradict my stance that Get Out was recognized in spite of being horror for its politics because Shape of Water too is political. So they are both politically themed or charged as a subtext, would you call GET OUT left wing politics too? Actually, it's mostly a critique of the liberal elite. Of course, the right-wing are largely dismissive of anything dealing with white racism, while the left are largely the opposite, so that's pretty much gone unnoticed by both sides. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 26, 2018 4:20:14 GMT
So they are both politically themed or charged as a subtext, would you call GET OUT left wing politics too? Actually, it's mostly a critique of the liberal elite. Of course, the right-wing are largely dismissive of anything dealing with white racism, while the left are largely the opposite, so that's pretty much gone unnoticed by both sides. I am not quite following you. So if Get Out is a critique of the liberal elite—c riticism can be either constructive or negative—is the racism in the film, perpetrated by what you would consider left wing antagonists, or right wing? |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 26, 2018 4:49:06 GMT
Actually, it's mostly a critique of the liberal elite. Of course, the right-wing are largely dismissive of anything dealing with white racism, while the left are largely the opposite, so that's pretty much gone unnoticed by both sides. I am not quite following you. So if Get Out is a critique of the liberal elite—c riticism can be either constructive or negative—is the racism in the film, perpetrated by what you would consider left wing antagonists, or right wing? Left-wing antagonists. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 26, 2018 5:14:33 GMT
I am not quite following you. So if Get Out is a critique of the liberal elite—c riticism can be either constructive or negative—is the racism in the film, perpetrated by what you would consider left wing antagonists, or right wing? Left-wing antagonists. I can't comment any further, as I haven't seen the film yet. Is it right wing propaganda? |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 26, 2018 5:28:39 GMT
I can't comment any further, as I haven't seen the film yet. Is it right wing propaganda? It's more saying that there are different kinds of racism, and that it's not just the right wing or Southern types that are guilty. |
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